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Old 04-03-2012, 01:59 AM
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:55 PM
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:04 PM
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One of the most formidable French Regents was Anne de Beaujeu or Anne de France,born on the 3rd of April 1461.

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Suppose for arguments sake that France is to become a monarchy, what are the chances of a Bonaparte to become Emperor of France against the Orleans and Bourbons? Do they have any real claim to the French throne as the the Orleans and Bourbons, other than Napoleon I being created Emperor by the then gov?
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:33 AM
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Jean Crisophe Napoleon does not seem interested in such a project.
I suppose the most active royalists nowadays are the legitimists who support the main branch of the Bourbons.
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:45 AM
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On the 28th of May 1825,the last ever Coronation of a French Monarch took place at the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Reims.The King was Charles X of France and Navarre,just over 5 years later he was forced to abdicate.

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Old 05-29-2012, 09:03 AM
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Unfortunately the Throne of Charles X was usurped by the son of Philippe Egalite'.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:48 PM
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Well, one could argue that without Louis Philippe, France would have turned republican in 1830, the autocratic tendencies of the Bourbons were thorougly out of fashion, and fortunately for France, remained so.
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A member of the French Government says France maybe need a King:

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Old 07-07-2015, 06:21 PM
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France is already [in reality] a 'crowned republic', in that as Macron rightly says the President occupies the place of the monarch. The strong emotional 'centrepiece' that France has looked to since Louis xiv.
Recent Presidents like M. Sarkozy, and the current incumbent M. Hollande have proved too lacklustre, and divisive to adequately occupy that role, so crucial in the constitution of the current 5th Republic [which previous men like M. Mitterand or General de Gaulle could do well.
I doubt the French, [having been brainwashed by their educational system] for over 200 years with the rectitude of the revolution and Republican 'virtues' could even contemplate such a 'volte face' let alone restore the monarchy, but M. Macron is a brave man for saying it, and will doubtless be 'hung out to dry' for his trouble...
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:47 AM
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Will France be allowed to restore monarchy? I highly doubt that there is a French politician, who posseses Napoleon's charisma, or there is a charismatic candidate among the claimants.
Given the lackey Presidents, it is time to elect Madame President for a change.
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France was a crowned republic, I would say. The last Présidents de la République with real grandeur were M François Mitterrand and M Jacques Chirac. The first one was a socialist but nevertheless used all trappings of the presidency when possible. The second one was a Gaullist but despite that, under his presidency the first signs of loosening protocol came in sight.

Under M Nicholas Sarkozy and M François Hollande the once so distinghuised and stately presidency became a chaotic mess.
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I doubt the French, [having been brainwashed by their educational system] for over 200 years with the rectitude of the revolution and Republican 'virtues' could even contemplate such a 'volte face' let alone restore the monarchy [...]
Many people think that with the beheading of Louis XVI it was over and out with the monarchy in France. In reality in the past 200 years the French have had Napoleon I Bonaparte as Emperor (two periods), Louis XVIII de Bourbon as King (two periods), Napoleon II Bonaparte as Emperor, Louis-Philippe d'Orléans as King and Napoleon III Bonaparte as Emperor. Roughly half of the after-revolution time was still a monarchy...
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Napoleon and his "Little Napoleon" nephew were dictators who styled themselves "emperors" (not unlike Bokassa for example). I don't count them as legitimate monarchs.

One might claim Louis-Philippe d'Orléans wasn't legitimate either, but, if his legitimacy is to be disputed, the same argument should apply e.g. to all British monarchs starting with William III and Mary II. In any case, after the demise of Henri, Comte de Chambord, the descendants of Louis-Philippe became the legitimate heirs to the French throne anyway as the only surviving male line that descends directly from Louis XIV has been "for ever and ever" removed from the succession to the French throne by the Treaty of Utrecht, as ratified by the kings of France, Spain and Great Britain.
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Napoleon and his "Little Napoleon" nephew were dictators who styled themselves "emperors" (not unlike Bokassa for example). I don't count them as legitimate monarchs.
You don't? Why not?
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Mbruno has a point. Napoleon was "just" a general who stole the French Revolution and styled himself Emperor. One may argue however that Napoleon II (son of Napoleon I) and Napoleon III (nephew of Napoleon I) were rightful Emperors because they followed in a hereditary succession according the Constitution of that time. Napoleon III even was elected President (the first French president chosen by the people). France became an Empire again (2nd Empire) after a referendum was won by Napoleon. So it was not all that entirely illegal.
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By that argument, William the Conqueror was just a general who killed the king and established himself as dictator.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:25 AM
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Exactly, Ish! We have to remember that every dynasty had to start somewhere, and it very often happened through warfare or a rebellion. I guess that Napoleon still is too relatively recent for some people, even if he too lived two hundred years ago now. But he was in no way different from any other monarch before him, who was the founder of his dynasty. Except for that his dynasty lost its power several times until they had no chance of returning again, while others have been going strong for many centuries.
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:22 AM
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Napoleon and his "Little Napoleon" nephew were dictators who styled themselves "emperors" (not unlike Bokassa for example). I don't count them as legitimate monarchs.
That's ridiculous, and thankfully not a point of view shared with historians ...
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I am pretty sure Anglo-Saxon historians have no problem identifying Napoleon as an usurper and a tyrant. It is mostly the French who insist on celebrating him as some kind of hero even though he ruined France's economy and was directly or indirectly responsible for the death of nearly 6 million Europeans .
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