The Bonaparte Imperial Family

[Toledo]

I found this http://www.gbnf.com/genealog3/maclar...090/I50790.HTM

I'll be back in a second with another link...

I'm back. This one has Alix as a descendant of William the Conqueror, scroll down to the middle:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....html/i261.html


Something on Clementine, Princess Napoleon

And the Napoleons seem to be as Capets as the Orleans and Bourbons longer than I noticed. On this site the current Napoleon pretenders are descended from King Louis Phillipe of Orleans through their maternal side, the Napoleons (with Alix de Foresta) are listed when you scroll down to reach this number:

2.2.4.2.Louis, Prince Napoléon (1914-1997), m.1949 Alix de Foresta (*1926)
here is the site
Descendants of King Louis Philippe I of the French

[Benjamin]

Hi Russian :).

Alix's father, Marie Joseph Albéric de Foresta (b. 1895, d. 1987), came from a family that was fiercely loyal to the Boubons. So I imagine that it came as a shock when he found out that his daughter was to marry a Bonaparte prince. Alix's mother was Geneviève Yvonne Berthe Hélène Frédet (b. 1904, d. 1994). Alix also has a younger sister, Hedwige (b. 1935), who married a French marquis.

For more about her family, see here.

[Toledo]

Hi Benjamin.
I just added some more in my post about the current Napoleon clan that is as Capet (the original family group the others branched out) as any of the other contending clans like the Valois, Bourbons and Orleans.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Toledo

Hi Benjamin.
I just added some more in my post about the current Napoleon clan that is as Capet (the original family group the others branched out) as any of the other contending clans like the Valois, Bourbons and Orleans.

Yes that is a very interesting genealogical connection. Thanks to Victor's marriage the current Bonapartes are related (or, perhaps closer related is a better term) to certain other royal families to which they weren't already due to the Wurttemburg and Savoy princesses marrying into the house.

The marriage of Princess Beatrice to Charles also ties Jean-Christophe and Caroline much closer to the Italian (and I think Spanish) Bourbons. Very fascinating.

Thanks for the link, Toledo.

[Benjamin]

You are right, Russian, French princesses have no succession rights. But also remember that Beatrice comes from the Bourbons of Two-Sicilies not from the Bourbon-Orleans of France so she wouldn't have a claim (well, perhaps very very very remote ) even if women could inherit the French throne. And besides, the Bonapartes are claimants to an imperial throne, so why do they need a royal one :).

[Danielane]

Reasons for a divorce, may it be royal, are a private and sensible matter. As they have not been made public by Charles, prince Napoléon and by Béatrice de Bourbon, princesse des Deux-Siciles, they may not be discussed on the TRF.

Thank you for your cooperation.

The Royal Genealogy Moderating Team.

[Russian]

Excuse me, but I have questions. I know, that Charles Bonaparte has the illegitimate daughter from the Corsican woman who has then married it. I know, that Charles Bonaparte has adopted the Vietnamese girl. I have a question. These girls cannot be princesses?

[Russian]

Does Alix de Foresta is lineal descendant of Wilhelm who was norman king and has won England in the eleventh century? But I yet have not understood, it is closer to what royal family or the sovereign house?

[Russian]

Let's strictly not judge the French empress Marie-Louise. Let's not reproach it with treachery Napoleon and dislike and indifference to their unique son. Let's recollect those times of its life. I think Marie-Louise had not the right to dispose of the private life. Absolutely other people solved her destiny. Let's think and there was a destiny of this Austrian princess if did not exist Napoleon. Perhaps, Narie-Louise after achievement of age of consent has married any European prince or the successor of any European throne. Perhaps, we shall never recollect it. And so in 1809 Marie-Louise has married for Napoleon at will of its father, wished to rescue the Austrian empire thus. When Napoleon has fallen in 1814, father Marie-Louise has counted itself free from any obligations to the French emperor and began to divide the inheritance which has remained after Napoleon together with winners of the French emperor. Certainly, it is a pity to me Napoleon II, but let's recollect, what was destiny of Louis XVII. I think, him destiny is not less tragic destiny of the Eaglet.

[Russian]

Excuse me, please. Probably, I create a theme having the small attitude to royal forums. But I am interested in napoleonic nobility. I know, that the French emperor Napoleon has created new nobility. Thus the new imperial nobility consisted of people of a modest origin or approached to emperor Napoleon. I know, that many of its marshals had nobiliary titles and ranks. Therefore I have questions concerning napoleonic nobility. Their titles were the presents or not? Whether to consider descendants of these noblemen as the present noblemen or not? Any related communications have been established between napoleonic nobility and old pre-revolutionary aristocracy?

[Russian]

I have found website of Point de Vue in Internet. What numbers of this magazine it is necessary to look to find any materials about Bonaparte?

[richardsw]

hey, first post on this thread, does anyone have pictures of the current imperial family? (especially Prince Jean-Christophe)

[Russian]

Hi, Richardsw!
If you are interested in any materials about this imperial family, I think, you look it with pleasure.


http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/ind...topic=6612.195

[richardsw]

Hey Russian,
Thank you very much, the forum was just what I was looking for

[Princess Robijn]

What is the name of Jeanne Françoise Valliccioni's first Child and what is the name of her father??

[Benjamin]

Hmmm...the only child that I know of is Sophie Cathérine, and her father is Charles. Do you know of any other children?

This is all I know about Jeanne Françoise Valliccionni's first marriage: she married Erik Jean Louis Langrais at Casaglione, Corsica on 15 Jul 1978. The marriage was dissolved by divorce on 24 Jul 1990 at Aix-en-Provence. Since they were married for twelve years I find I hard to believe that they didn't have any children, though I haven't seen any evidence that says they did.

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Hmmm...the only child that I know of is Sophie Cathérine, and her father is Charles. Do you know of any other children?

This is all I know about Jeanne Françoise Valliccionni's first marriage: she married Erik Jean Louis Langrais at Casaglione, Corsica on 15 Jul 1978. The marriage was dissolved by divorce on 24 Jul 1990 at Aix-en-Provence. Since they were married for twelve years I find I hard to believe that they didn't have any children, though I haven't seen any evidence that says they did.

Sophie-Catherine is called Catherine by her family (her mother is Jeanne-Françoise Valliccioni). She has an adopted sister, Anh, born on 22th april 1998 in Saïgon.

[Princess Robijn]

I was reading about the family and they were talking about a girl before she married, so I guess it could be Sophie-Catherine

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by Princess Robijn

I was reading about the family and they were talking about a girl before she married, so I guess it could be Sophie-Catherine

Sophie is the girl of Charles and Jeanne-Françoise (I should have precised). So Charles Napoléon has three girls and a boy.

[Princess Robijn]

ok, thank you for clearing it up