Aristocracy of France

[Alastair_r]

Could anyone tell me something about Jacqueline de Ribe?
I saw a couple of pictures of her and thought she looked intersting but can't find anything about her.

Anyone heard of the Baron de Rede ? I read about him on the net and he seemed to know alot of royals

[kirstengrafin]

Originally Posted by Alastair_r

Anyone heard of the Baron de Rede ? I read about him on the net and he seemed to know alot of royals

A fascinating gentleman! He was a very close friend of Marie-Helene and Guy de Rothschild and enjoyed an exquisite lifestyle socializing with the most prominent members of Parisian society.

Baron de Rede - Telegraph

Alexis von Rosenberg, Baron de Rédé - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I highly recommend his memoirs:

Amazon.co.uk: Alexis: The Memoirs of the Baron De Rede: Books: Hugo Vickers

[Alastair_r]

What is the book like ? I was thinking about buying it but it is very expensive and I have no idea what I will be paying for

[LadyGabrielle]

Originally Posted by Alastair_r

Could anyone tell me something about her ? I saw a couple of pictures of her and thought she looked intersting but can't find anything about her.

Well all I can tell you is that she was born in Paris in 1931 as Jacqueline de Beumont until she married a wealthy banker Vicomte Edouard de Ribes which then made her Vicomtesse Jacqueline de Ribes. She was a French socialite and was always on the best dressed list.

[scooter]

Is this not the lady who was a spy for the Allies during WWII? Did she not write a book called 'The Spy Wore Red'? Or is it someone else I am thinking of?

[kirstengrafin]

Originally Posted by scooter

Is this not the lady who was a spy for the Allies during WWII? Did she not write a book called 'The Spy Wore Red'? Or is it someone else I am thinking of?

You're thinking of Aline, Countess of Romanones.

No Headline - New York Times

[scooter]

Originally Posted by kirstengrafin

You're thinking of Aline, Countess of Romanones.

No Headline - New York Times

I am very embarrassed! You are quite correct!

[Marengo]

On January 11th the 9th Duke of Noailles, François-Agénor-Alexandre-Hélie de Noailles died at the age of 103 at the Chateau de Champlâtreux. He was the son of Marquis Helie de Noailles and Corisande de Gramont. In 1953 he succeeded his uncle Adrien as duke Noailles. He married Charlotte de Chaumont de la Force in 1936, who died in 2002.

The duke will be succeeded by his son Helie, 10th duke of Noailles.

source: monarchen.nl

[Carminha Stalker]

I remember seeing a lot of articles and photos of the very beautiful and elegant Jacqueline de Ribes. She was, for many years an icon of elegance in French circles.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Marengo

On January 11th the 9th Duke of Noailles died at the age of 103

The 10th Duc de Noailles, Helie, was born in 1943. He married in 1972 Cécile Gonin, born 1945. They have three children:

• Emmanuel Paul Louis Marie, Duc d’Ayen, b 1983
• Julie Marie-Christine Françoise, b 1972
• Marie-Alicia Eugénie Charlotte Blandine, b 1975

source: Noailles
List of Dukes: Wiki

Here is the Noailles Coat of Arms..
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[Tatiepot1]

Was all property returned to exiled families after the Revolution?
And what happened to the property of familes who were completly wiped out by the Revolution? :fleur-de-lis-flag:

What I was trying to say was: The fall of the Bastille prompted the first wave of nobles to flee, led by the King’s brother, the Count of Artois. Over 150,000 nobles, clergy, and commoners became émigrés during the revolutionary outside France between 1789 and 1814. . The King’s brothers established a royalist center at Coblentz, just across the German border, and set up a military force commanded by the Prince of Condé that existed until 1801 with British, Austrian, and Russian support. However, the émigrés spread far and wide in Europe and the Americas. Upon Louis XVI’s execution, the Count of Provence recognized Louis XVI’s son as Louis XVII with himself as regent. When Louis XVII died in 1795, Provence proclaimed himself King as Louis XVIII with financial support from other European powers. The existence of the émigrés was a major cause of the war that began in the spring of 1792. The property of the émigrés was seized and later sold. Under the Directory, a huge number of émigrés returned to France. Bonaparte promulgated a partial amnesty in October 1800, and in April 1802 all but a thousand émigrés were allowed to return. Later, under the Restoration, Louis XVIII paid compensation of 1 billion francs to émigrés who lost property.

I would like to know about the familes that did recieve their properties back, plus what did other families did to try & regain any properties they had lost.

[Al_bina]

Dita Von Teese steps out with a real gentleman (and he's nothing like her ex-husband) | Mail Online
Burlesque dancer Dita, 39, arrived at Paris airport with new French boyfriend Louis Marie de Castelbajac, the son of fashion designer Jean-Charles de Castelbajac, who happens to be the 13th Marquis de Castelbajac.

[GlitteringTiaras]

I adore Dita and her new beau is quite handsome.

[Al_bina]

Loius' face features are very noble looking. As my grandmother would say it, "What's bred in the bone will come out in the flesh".

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

Loius' face features are very noble looking. As my grandmother would say it, "What's bred in the bone will come out in the flesh".

True.
Really,that Dita looks like she's on leave from one "of the windows" in the red light district here..what's bred in the bone indeed..
men can be so blind to date such a two legged mistake.Having a title never made a difference.

[susan alicia]

I love that family because Adrienne de Noailles married de La Fayette (lucky woman)

Adrienne de La Fayette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Warren

The 10th Duc de Noailles, Helie, was born in 1943. He married in 1972 Cécile Gonin, born 1945. They have three children:

• Emmanuel Paul Louis Marie, Duc d’Ayen, b 1983
• Julie Marie-Christine Françoise, b 1972
• Marie-Alicia Eugénie Charlotte Blandine, b 1975

source: Noailles
List of Dukes: Wiki

Here is the Noailles Coat of Arms..
.

[Al_bina]

Originally Posted by lucien

True.
Really,that Dita looks like she's on leave from one "of the windows" in the red light district here..what's bred in the bone indeed..
men can be so blind to date such a two legged mistake.Having a title never made a difference.

Well, I do not think that the relationship is permanent. Ms.Dita von Teese is charming in a certain way. However, she appears to wear too much of make-up.

[GlitteringTiaras]

Interesting anaylsis of Miss von Teese, Lucian. Sorry you view her that way. Anyone and everyone, specically those in the fashion as well as the entertainment business, hail Miss von Teese as a beautiful and elegant woman. A true old Hollywood beauty ala Ava Gardner, Rita Hayworth, Lili St. Cyr... the list goes on. In other words, she is far from the overweight unpolished hot mess one would find in the Red Light district in Amsterdam. Thankfully, Miss von Teese is a muse to many couture and RTW designers in Paris as well as throughout the world.

Moving on... does anyone know about this young count's family? I do know his father was born in Morocco other than that not much is out there from what I can tell. As for their relationship, I agree with you, Al Bina. Besides, Miss von Teese has noted previously that she is interested in casual dating. Nothing serious at this time for her.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

Well, I do not think that the relationship is permanent. Ms.Dita von Teese is charming in a certain way. However, she appears to wear too much of make-up.

A certain way,yes,to a certain breed,yes,not our sort of people.Hollywood,oh ofcourse....
they don't have windows there...they just..oh well..

But at best she has the Joanne Lumley part in "Shirley Valentine",
and for the time being she has a aristocat pet,or like we say here...

Talking about the french aristocracy,could anyone elaborate on the Rochefoucauld family?

[susan alicia]

Francois de La Rochefoucauld Quotes - The Quotations Page

some brilliant thoughts, like many of them among which:

He who lives without folly isn't so wise as he thinks.