It was not an usual practice in french upper classes and aristocracy that brothers married sisters, sometimes the same day. More recently, someone I know fell in love with his sister-in-law's sister, and married her. Two brothers have wed two sisters in his family, and everyone is happy.
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Thank you Sancia, I didn't know that.The family holiday dinners and get togethers must be very interesting!
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Prince Bernard de Polignac died on 24 July 2015, aged 70.
He was born on 6 September 1944, the second son of Prince Hubert de Polignac and of his wife, née Radégonde Moulart de Vilmarest.
He was married since 30 June 1967 to Jeanne de La Rochefoucauld, the eldest daughter of the late Duke and (the recently deceased) Duchess d'Estissac and sister of the current Duke. They were parents of two sons, Prince Guillaume and Prince François de Polignac.
He is survived by his wife, their children, their daughter-in-law (née Constance Mysyrowicz, wife of François) and four grandchildren.
Avis de décès - Prince Bernard DE POLIGNAC - Avis obsèques - La Jumellière (49) - Dans nos coeurs
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He was born on 6 September 1944, the second son of Prince Hubert de Polignac and of his wife, née Radégonde Moulart de Vilmarest.
He was married since 30 June 1967 to Jeanne de La Rochefoucauld, the eldest daughter of the late Duke and (the recently deceased) Duchess d'Estissac and sister of the current Duke. They were parents of two sons, Prince Guillaume and Prince François de Polignac.
He is survived by his wife, their children, their daughter-in-law (née Constance Mysyrowicz, wife of François) and four grandchildren.
Avis de décès - Prince Bernard DE POLIGNAC - Avis obsèques - La Jumellière (49) - Dans nos coeurs
Polignac
This Wikipedia page would be a good place to start for those like me who want to learn more about the family:
Blacas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And the website of the Château d'Useé:
Welcome to Sleeping Beauty's Castle - Chateau of Uss?
I don't know the origin of the name, but "Blacas" doesn't sound Portuguese to me (the Portuguese cognate would be most likely "Bracas"). The name is not Occitan/Catalan either.
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Repose en paix, monseigneur.
Prince Albert, Princess Caroline, Princess Stéphanie, Prince Jacques and Princess Gabriella are male lineage agnates of the House de Polignac.
Charlotte de Monaco
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Pierre de Polignac, cr. Prince de Monaco
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Rainier III de Monaco
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This is an old post of mine from last November, but it's interesting to hear that "Blacas" isn't of Occitan or Catalan origins. So that would rule out any possible Spanish/French/Portuguese origins of the name.
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I think that the La Rochefoucaulds also loomed large in 18th century France at the Court of the Bourbons?
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Yes, although their common ancestors date back to the 18th century; more precisely they are all descendants from the first Duke de Polignac and of his wife, née Yolande de Polastron (Queen Marie Antoinette's favourite).
Yes, they did indeed, they were one of the most prominent families of the French aristocracy.
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In the Netherlands a French nobleman, son of a Count, has requested incorporation into the Nobility of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, since he is a naturalized citizen of the kingdom. The High Council of Nobility has advised: no incorporation. Reason for the negative advice: France has no "similar system of nobility", which is a requirement for incorporation into the Nobility. The French aristocrat did not accept this refusal and started a lawsuit at the Court of Justice in Alkmaar, North-Holland. The Court has given the following verdict, which is interesting to read:
1 - the plaintiff, son of a French Count (deceased in 1980), has requested incorporation into the Nobility of the Kingdom of the Netherlands because he belongs to a French noble dynasty;
2 - Article 2 of the Nobility Act states that nobility can be aquired by elevation, recognition and incorporation. Incorporation can only happen when a petitioner belongs to a noble dynasty of a state with a comparable system of nobility;
3 - the defendant (the State of the Netherlands, more precize: the minister of the Interior, represented by the Land's Advocate) has rejected the request. Consideration was: France knows no "comparable system of nobility" and therefore the requested incorporation was not possible.
The Court of Justice:
According to information from the French Department of Justice, Direction des Affaires civiles et du seau, it has become clear that since the Troisième République (1870) no longer titles of nobility were granted in France. Only existing titles were (and are still) confirmed. It is also not possible for a foreign noble to become incorporated into the French nobility. With this the duty of the French Minister of Justice is limited to confirmation or verification of existing nobility.
The defendant (the Minister of the Interior, represented by the Land's Advocate) has also pointed to the fact that the French system of nobility is not comparable: in France the eldest male successor inherits the title. In the Netherlands the title and/or predicate is transferred to all children respectively the title to the eldest son and the predicate to all other children. Incorporation of the French nobleman would mean that all his children -in contradiction to original French Letters Patent- would inherit a title.
The Court of Justice agreed that the differences between the Dutch and French systems of nobility are too big to speak about comparable systems. On base of this consideration the Court of Justice was of the opinion that the defendant (the Minister of the Interior) was right in the rejection of the requested incorporation.
The plaintiff (the French nobleman) has brought forward that Princes and Princesses de Bourbon de Parme were incorporated into the nobility of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Also the title Prince of Orange is a French title. Because of this, also his request for incorporation should be honoured.
The defendant (the Minister of the Interior) has rejected these grounds: the incorporation of the Princes and Princesses de Bourbon de Parme happened on grounds of their descendance from the ruling Royal House of Spain, not on base of their French nobility. The defendant has also stated that the title Prince of Orange is a Dutch title which is born by the successor to the throne.
The Court of Justice was of the opinion that the defendant has given convincing motivation that these examples are no similar cases indeed and so an appeal on equal treatment was rightfully dismissed.
The plaintiff (the French nobleman) stated that the neither the High Council of Nobility nor the Minister of the Interior have denied that he is a French nobleman indeed.
The Court of Justice was of the opinion that the question whether the plaintiff was a nobleman or not, was not what the case was about. The fact that France has no similar system of nobility was sufficient for rejection of the requested incorporation, without any judgement about the noble birth of the plaintiff.
The plaintiff can appeal to a higher Court, if desired.
https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/inziendocument?id=ECLI:NL:RBNHO:2016:2664&keyword=%22bourbon%22
1 - the plaintiff, son of a French Count (deceased in 1980), has requested incorporation into the Nobility of the Kingdom of the Netherlands because he belongs to a French noble dynasty;
2 - Article 2 of the Nobility Act states that nobility can be aquired by elevation, recognition and incorporation. Incorporation can only happen when a petitioner belongs to a noble dynasty of a state with a comparable system of nobility;
3 - the defendant (the State of the Netherlands, more precize: the minister of the Interior, represented by the Land's Advocate) has rejected the request. Consideration was: France knows no "comparable system of nobility" and therefore the requested incorporation was not possible.
The Court of Justice:
According to information from the French Department of Justice, Direction des Affaires civiles et du seau, it has become clear that since the Troisième République (1870) no longer titles of nobility were granted in France. Only existing titles were (and are still) confirmed. It is also not possible for a foreign noble to become incorporated into the French nobility. With this the duty of the French Minister of Justice is limited to confirmation or verification of existing nobility.
The defendant (the Minister of the Interior, represented by the Land's Advocate) has also pointed to the fact that the French system of nobility is not comparable: in France the eldest male successor inherits the title. In the Netherlands the title and/or predicate is transferred to all children respectively the title to the eldest son and the predicate to all other children. Incorporation of the French nobleman would mean that all his children -in contradiction to original French Letters Patent- would inherit a title.
The Court of Justice agreed that the differences between the Dutch and French systems of nobility are too big to speak about comparable systems. On base of this consideration the Court of Justice was of the opinion that the defendant (the Minister of the Interior) was right in the rejection of the requested incorporation.
The plaintiff (the French nobleman) has brought forward that Princes and Princesses de Bourbon de Parme were incorporated into the nobility of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Also the title Prince of Orange is a French title. Because of this, also his request for incorporation should be honoured.
The defendant (the Minister of the Interior) has rejected these grounds: the incorporation of the Princes and Princesses de Bourbon de Parme happened on grounds of their descendance from the ruling Royal House of Spain, not on base of their French nobility. The defendant has also stated that the title Prince of Orange is a Dutch title which is born by the successor to the throne.
The Court of Justice was of the opinion that the defendant has given convincing motivation that these examples are no similar cases indeed and so an appeal on equal treatment was rightfully dismissed.
The plaintiff (the French nobleman) stated that the neither the High Council of Nobility nor the Minister of the Interior have denied that he is a French nobleman indeed.
The Court of Justice was of the opinion that the question whether the plaintiff was a nobleman or not, was not what the case was about. The fact that France has no similar system of nobility was sufficient for rejection of the requested incorporation, without any judgement about the noble birth of the plaintiff.
The plaintiff can appeal to a higher Court, if desired.
https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/inziendocument?id=ECLI:NL:RBNHO:2016:2664&keyword=%22bourbon%22
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You don't have a lot of aristocrates in the Netherlands.
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There is a quite lot of nobility. It started with the Adelslijst of 1815 (King Willem I). Below the titled nobility (so no jonkheren included). Red means: the title has become extinct.
prins (prinses)
- de Bourbon de Parme
- de Riquet de Caraman (chef is prince de Chimay)
- Wellesley (chef is prins van Waterloo)
There are no Dukes in the Netherlands Nobility
markies (markiezin)
- van Hoensbroeck (chef is markies van Hoensbroek)
- Le Poer Trench - (chef is markies van Heusden)
- (d'Aubremé)
- (d'Auxy)
- Bentinck (comital branch).
- de Borchgrave d'Altena
- (Borluut)
- van (von) Bylandt
- van den Bosch
- (du Chastel de la Howarderie)
- Dumonceau
- (van der Duyn) (comital branch)
- Festetics de Tolna
- de Ficquelmont
- de Geloes
- (van der Goltz)
- (van Gronsfeld Diepenbroeck)
- van Heerdt tot Eversberg (chef is graaf van Heerdt tot Eversberg)
- (van Heiden/von Heyden)
- de Hochepied
- van Hoensbroeck
- van Hogendorp (comital branch)
- (von Hompesch-Rürich)
- de Marchant et d'Ansembourg
- (de Larrey)
- van Limburg Stirum
- van Lynden (comital branch)
- (van Nassau la Lecq)
- de Norman d'Audenhove
- von Oberndorff
- van Oranje-Nassau van Amsberg
- de Perponcher Sedlnitsky (comital branch)
- von Quadt (comital branch)
- van Randwijck (comital branch)
- von Ranzow
- van Rechteren
- van Rechteren Limpurg (Rijksgraaf)
- (van Reede)
- (van Renesse)
- de Riquet de Caraman (chef is prince de Chimay)
- Schimmelpenninck
- zu Stolberg-Stolberg
- (van Wassenaer) (comital branch)
- Wolff Metternich
- van Zuylen van Nijevelt (chef is graaf Van Zuylen van Nijevelt)
- du Bus de Gisignies
- de Preud'homme d'Hailly de Nieuport (chef is burggraaf van Nieuport)
- Roest van Alkemade (chef is burggraaf Roest van Alkemade)
- d'Ablaing van Giessenburg
- van Aerssen Beijeren van Voshol
- (Alberda)
- (van Alderwerelt)
- (Arrazola de Oñate)
- van Asbeck
- d'Aulnis de Bourouill
- (van Aylva)
- (van Balveren)
- (Barbaix de Bonnines)
- Baud
- (de Beijer)
- (de Bieberstein Rogalla Zawadsky)
- (de Billehé de Valensart)
- Bentinck (baronial branch)
- (van Boecop)
- van Boetzelaer
- (van den Bogaerde)
- (du Bois)
- (von de Bongart)
- van der Borch
- (van der Hooghe van Borssele)
- (Bounam de Ryckholt)
- van Brakell
- Brantsen
- van Breugel
- (Van Brienen)
- (van Broeckhuysen)
- (du Bus)
- (du Bus de Warnaffe)
- Calkoen
- van der Capellen
- (de Casembroot)
- (Chassé)
- (Clifford)
- van Coeverden
- Collot d'Escury
- de Constant Rebecque
- (Coppin)
- (De Crassier)
- Creutz
- (Daelman)
- (Dedel)
- van Dedem
- (van Delen)
- (von Derfelden)
- Dibbets
- (Diert)
- (van Doorn)
- (van Dopff)
- van Dorth tot Medler
- (van der Duyn) (baronial branch)
- van Eck
- van Erp
- (Fagel)
- van der Feltz
- (Forstner van Dambenoy)
- (van Fridagh)
- (Gansneb genaamd Van Tengnagel))
- van Geen
- de Geer
- Gericke
- (von Geusau)
- Gevers
- (de Gijselaar)
- (de Girard de Mielet van Coehoorn)
- (van der Goes)
- (van Goltstein)
- (de Graillet)
- Groeninx van Zoelen
- (Hacfort)
- (van Haeften)
- van Haersolte
- (van Hall)
- van Hangest d'Yvoy
- van Hardenbroek
- (van Haren)
- van Harinxma thoe Slooten
- de Heeckeren d'Anthès
- van Heeckeren
- van Heemstra
- van Heerdt
- van Heerdt tot Eversberg (chef is graaf van Heerdt tot Eversberg)
- (van Heilmann van Stoutenburg)
- (van der Heim)
- van Hemert tot Dingshof
- (van Herzeele)
- de Heusch
- van der Heyden
- van der Heyden van Doorneveld
- van Hogendorp (baronial branch)
- (Hogguer)
- van Hövell
- (van Hugenpoth)
- Huyssen van Kattendijke (chef is baron van Huyssen van Kattendijke)
- van Imhoff
- (von Innhausen und Kniphausen)
- (d'Isendoorn à Blois)
- van Isselmuden
- van Ittersum
- (van Keppel)
- (de Keverberg)
- (Klerck)
- van Knobelsdorff
- de Kock
- Krayenhoff
- (van Laer)
- (de Lamberts de Cortenbach)
- (Lampsins)
- (Lampsins van den Velden)
- van Lamsweerde
- van Lawick
- van Lawick van Pabst
- (de Liedel)
- von (de) Loë
- van Lynden (baronial branch)
- de Macar
- Mackay
- von Maltzahn
- (van Massow)
- (de Meer d'Osen)
- Melvill van Carnbee
- (de Mey)
- Michiels van Kessenich
- (Michiels van Verduyn)
- Mollerus
- Mulert
- Van Nagell
- van Nahuys
- (de Negri)
- (Nepveu)
- (van Neukirchen genaamd Nyvenheim)
- (de Norman d'Audenhove)
- van Oldeneel tot Oldenzeel
- (d'Olne)
- (van Omphal)
- d'Osy de Segwaert
- (van Pabst)
- van Pallandt
- (van Panhuys)
- (de Pélichy)
- (de Perponcher Sedlnitsky) (baronial branch)
- (van Plettenberg)
- (de Plevits)
- (du Pont)
- (de Posson)
- Prisse
- (von Quadt)
- Quarles
- (von Rade)
- van Raders
- (de Raet)
- van Randwijck (baronial branch)
- van Reede
- Rengers
- (van Rhemen)
- (von Riedesel d'Eisenbach)
- van Rijckevorsel
- Röell
- Roest van Alkemade (chef is burggraaf Roest van Alkemade)
- (de Rosen)
- (de Roy van Zuydewijn/de Roye van Wichen)
- (de Saint-Rémy)
- (de Salis)
- Sandberg
- Schimmelpenninck van der Oye
- thoe Schwartzenberg en Hohenlansberg
- (de Senarclens de Grancy)
- Sirtema van Grovestins
- Six van Oterleek
- (Slicher)
- van Slingelandt
- Sloet van de Beele
- Sloet tot Everlo
- Sloet
- de Smeth
- Snouckaert van Schauburg
- (van Spaen)
- Speyart van Woerden
- Steengracht
- (Straalman)
- Stratenus
- (Strick van Linschoten)
- van Styrum
- Sweerts de Landas
- van Sytzama
- Taets van Amerongen
- (van Tengnagell)
- Testa
- (de Thier) (chef was baron de Thier)
- van Till
- (Tindal)
- (des Tombe)
- (Torck)
- (du Tour)
- (Travers)
- (de Trevey de Charmail)
- van Tuyll van Serooskerken
- van Utenhove
- van Verschuer
- (Verstolk)
- (van Voërst)
- van Voorst tot Voorst
- de Vos van Steenwijk
- (Vosch van Avesaet)
- (van Vredenburch)
- de Warzée d'Hermalle
- van Wassenaer (baronial branch)
- (de Watteville)
- de Weichs de Wenne
- (van Westerholt)
- (van Westreenen van Tiellandt)
- (van Wevelinchoven de Sittert)
- (van Wickevoort Crommelin)
- de Wijkerslooth
- van Wijnbergen
- Wittert
- von Wydenbruck
- (de Wymar)
- van Zuylen van Nievelt
- van Zuylen van Nyevelt (chef is graaf Van Zuylen van Nijevelt)
- (Alewijn) (knightly branch)
- (de Behr)
- (du Bus) (knightly branch)
- de Bye (Van der Does de Bye)
- (van Citters)
- von Devivere
- (van der Heim) (knightly branch)
- Huyssen van Kattendijke (chef is baron van Huyssen van Kattendijke)
- (van Lockhorst)
- de Maurissens
- (Pauw van Wieldrecht)
- de Plevits
- van Rappard
- (van der Renne)
- Bosch van Rosenthal
- (Nedermeijer von Rosenthal)
- de van der Schueren
- de Stuers
- (de Warzée d'Hermalle) (knightly branch)
- (van Westreenen van Tiellandt) (knightly branch)
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Thank you very much for the translation. I don't understand why the Bourbons were incorporated on grounds of their descendance from the Royal House of Spain if it is a requirement for the system of nobility to be "comparable" to the Dutch system. In Spain the titles are also inherited by the successor but not the other children.
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The Nobility Act with the requirement that for incorporation there must be "a comparable system of Nobility" was established in 1994 but with a transitional period of five years.
The children of Princess Irene did their request on March 1st 1996, so within this transitional period. Therefore the High Council of Nobility gave a positive advice on their petition "considering their descendance from a branch of the ruling royal family of Spain".
Philippe de Bourbon, Duke of Anjou / Felipe V de Borbón, King of Spain
x Elisabetta Farnese, Duchess of Parma
= Philippe
Philippe de Bourbon de Parme
x Élisabeth de France
= Ferdinand
Ferdinand de Bourbon de Parme
x Maria Amalia von Österreich
= Louis
Louis de Bourbon de Parme
x María Luisa de España
= Carlos
Carlos II de Bourbon de Parme
x Maria Teresa di Savoia
= Carlos
Carlos III de Bourbon de Parme
x Louise de France
= Robert
Robert de Bourbon de Parme
x Maria Antónia de Portugal
= Xavier
Xavier de Bourbon de Parme
x Madeleine de Bourbon-Busset
= Carlos Hugo
Carlos Hugo de Bourbon de Parme
x Irene der Nederlanden
= Carlos Xavier
= Margarita
= Jaime
= María Carolina
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I don't know if there is a thread about French Nobility.
The Family Sabran had their Ansouis Castle since 1000 years and had to sell their the Castle a few years ago. The late Comte Jean lived Ansouis and now in Belgium at Grez-Doiceau.
I visited the Castle and as I was to early I spoke with the late Duchess. A charming old Lady who told me so much. The Wedding of Prince Jacques d'Orleans should happen at Dreux but as the Duke Foulques was so frail they asked to the Comte de Paris to do the Wedding at Ansouis and he agreed.
The whole small city participated at this summer wedding and some said : "how sad our Duke's daughter is marrying only a Count's Son !"
The late Count Jean Henry elder Brother the late Duc of Sabrun was the french Lover of Dewi Soekarno in the years 70. He had enourmous debts .... because Dewi liked diamands etc.
His old ill (cancer) Mother , the Duchess, who I spoke about in my former thread ,paid all his debts.
The Family Sabran had their Ansouis Castle since 1000 years and had to sell their the Castle a few years ago. The late Comte Jean lived Ansouis and now in Belgium at Grez-Doiceau.
I visited the Castle and as I was to early I spoke with the late Duchess. A charming old Lady who told me so much. The Wedding of Prince Jacques d'Orleans should happen at Dreux but as the Duke Foulques was so frail they asked to the Comte de Paris to do the Wedding at Ansouis and he agreed.
The whole small city participated at this summer wedding and some said : "how sad our Duke's daughter is marrying only a Count's Son !"
The late Count Jean Henry elder Brother the late Duc of Sabrun was the french Lover of Dewi Soekarno in the years 70. He had enourmous debts .... because Dewi liked diamands etc.
His old ill (cancer) Mother , the Duchess, who I spoke about in my former thread ,paid all his debts.
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A very distinghuised family: Ducs et Comtes de Sabran, Marquis de Pontevès-Buoux et de Giens, Vicomtes de Bargème, Barons de Ansouis et de Beaudinard, Etc.
In 1847 the last male Duc de Sabran died without issue. The King of France allowed that his peerages would go to two nephews of his spouse (born De Pontevès). With these nephews the "new" noble dynasty started: the ducs (et comtes) de Sabran-Pontevès. Link: Généalogie historique de la maison de Sabran-Pontevès | Gallica
More or less the same happened in Belgium in 1934: the last Duc de la Trémoille (a French nobleman) died without issue in 1933. His sister was married to a younger son of the Prince de Ligne. In 1934 the King of the Belgians allowed that the son of this sister (= nephew to the last Duc de la Trémoille) could add his mother's surname to his own name and title. With that nephew the "new" noble dynasty started: the princes de Ligne de la Trémoille.
In 1847 the last male Duc de Sabran died without issue. The King of France allowed that his peerages would go to two nephews of his spouse (born De Pontevès). With these nephews the "new" noble dynasty started: the ducs (et comtes) de Sabran-Pontevès. Link: Généalogie historique de la maison de Sabran-Pontevès | Gallica
More or less the same happened in Belgium in 1934: the last Duc de la Trémoille (a French nobleman) died without issue in 1933. His sister was married to a younger son of the Prince de Ligne. In 1934 the King of the Belgians allowed that the son of this sister (= nephew to the last Duc de la Trémoille) could add his mother's surname to his own name and title. With that nephew the "new" noble dynasty started: the princes de Ligne de la Trémoille.
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If I recall correctly, the castle was put on sale on order of a tribunale, at request of the Duchess of Orléans (née Gersende de Sabran Ponteves), since she and her brothers couldn't reach an agreement about how to divide the inheritance of their parents.
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The Sabran parents rstaured the castle. The Duchess had money problems , they had to sell their appartment in Paris because e .a. the debts of the Duke of Sabran.
I was said , it was not the Duchess herself but her two Children Charles-Louis and Foulques . They expected more than 10 millions euros for the Castle . But they forgot it was not in Paris and the Castle needed high Renovations
It it was sold only the half of what they expected to a rich couple of Marseille . They renovated the castle entirely and it was open for a Public Visit. Many pictures in the Deco Magazines.
I was said , it was not the Duchess herself but her two Children Charles-Louis and Foulques . They expected more than 10 millions euros for the Castle . But they forgot it was not in Paris and the Castle needed high Renovations
It it was sold only the half of what they expected to a rich couple of Marseille . They renovated the castle entirely and it was open for a Public Visit. Many pictures in the Deco Magazines.
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Thanks for the clarification, I didn't know those details.
Personally I find always quite sad when families, who have been able to preserve family treasures and estates for centuries, are forced to sell them just to get cash.
Personally I find always quite sad when families, who have been able to preserve family treasures and estates for centuries, are forced to sell them just to get cash.
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Thank you for these infos....now I Wonder.... Charles-Louis and Foulques should have had nothing to do with this....the castle was inherited by their mother and uncles....they had nothing to say
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I suppose they may have assisted on the request of their mother?
The Duke of Chartres works in finance. I believe he was (or is?) vice president and senior private banker at JP Morgan. Earlier he worked as a banker for Rothschild & Cie. It would not be illogical for a mother to ask for his help in financial matters.
Although it is sad that the family had to sell the castle, it seems that the new owners had the resources to take better care of it than the family was able to do.
The Duke of Chartres works in finance. I believe he was (or is?) vice president and senior private banker at JP Morgan. Earlier he worked as a banker for Rothschild & Cie. It would not be illogical for a mother to ask for his help in financial matters.
Although it is sad that the family had to sell the castle, it seems that the new owners had the resources to take better care of it than the family was able to do.
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Yes for the Duke of Chartres; But for Foulques Comte d' Eu , I am not sure.
I don't know where the Duke and the Duchess of Orleans are living now; I suppose in Paris.
I don't know where the Duke and the Duchess of Orleans are living now; I suppose in Paris.
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Sometimes it is better for a property to be sold. Think of the Château de Lignières which is in very poor state because Prince Sixte-Henri de Bourbon de Parme simply has no money for the costly upkeep of his 17th C treasure.
At the other hand: turning such a property into a hotel would take the soul out of the building. I once visited the Château de Modave in the province Liège. In the 1930's the Domain and the castle were bought by the Brussels Water Company, to supply fresh water to the city. The domain has large underground sources. The castle looks like left in 1930, with all furnitures, artworks, etc. intact. The beds were made. The table in the dining salon was laid with porcelain, silver- and crystalware. Fresh flowers here and there. Very impressive, almost as if the family can return any moment. So the sale to the Brussels Water Company was good for the castle.
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