Prince Maximilian & Princess Angela 1: July 2005 - May 2007

[Warren]

Originally Posted by kerry

To my understanding, they are very private and live in Hamburg, Germany. However, somebody has to have seen them somewhere. We get updates about German royals so why not Liechtenstein royals that live in Germany?

Probably something along the lines of not messing with the Liechtensteiners in case Prince Hans Adam gets annoyed.

[BurberryBrit]

What happens whe Prince Hans Adam gets annoyed?

[Warren]

Originally Posted by BurberryBrit

What happens when Prince Hans Adam gets annoyed?

It was a little joke. Nevertheless, I don't think he's the sort of person you would mess with. He has shown he can be determined and ruthless when it comes to protecting the interests of his dynasty. Not a man to cross.

[BurberryBrit]

Originally Posted by kerry

To my understanding, they are very private and live in Hamburg, Germany. However, somebody has to have seen them somewhere. We get updates about German royals so why not Liechtenstein royals that live in Germany?

They are such a lovely family and it would be nice to see/hear more about them.:)

I understand, but they have to go to weddings, work, out shopping, charity functions, something. Where are they. . .:(

[Emily]

What does "mediatised sovereign house" mean?

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Emily

What does "mediatised sovereign house" mean?

Keeping it simple... when the Holy Roman Empire (specifically the Germanic lands) was a patchwork of myriad big and little Counties, Principalities, Duchies, Margravates, Electorates etc the ruling princes owed allegiance directly to the Holy Roman Emperor (who happened to be the Habsburg ruler of the hereditary possessions of Austria).

Napoleon Bonaparte declared the Empire a relic of the past and the Emperor abdicated the position in 1806 (after adding 'Emperor of Austria' to his titles in 1804 immediately after Bonaparte proclaimed himself Emperor of the French). Following the turmoil of the Napoleonic Wars the map of Central Europe was re-drawn at the Congress of Vienna in 1815. Most of the little sovereign states were formally absorbed into the territory of their larger neighbour (not always willingly); the former sovereigns of the pocket principalities ceased to rule, and now owed allegiance firstly to their local King, Grand Duke, Duke or Prince. So in terms of feudal allegiance the dispossessed former rulers now had a new liege lord between themselves and the Emperor of Austria, thus the term "media" or "between".

As compensation for the loss of sovereign status the several hundred affected families were declared to be Ebenbürtigkeit ("equal") to the reigning Houses in terms of marriage eligibility and social ranking, plus other privileges, and became known as the "Mediatised Sovereign Houses of the Holy Roman Empire".

[TonyaR]

Hello, I'm new to the forum. I was wondering if anyone might know where there are any recently posted photos of this very interesting royal couple or their cute little son Alfons?

[Mandy]

Originally Posted by TonyaR

Hello, I'm new to the forum. I was wondering if anyone might know where there are any recently posted photos of this very interesting royal couple or their cute little son Alfons?

Welcome to the Forum TonyaR and I hope to hear from you again. Happy posting!

I'm afraid this is a fairly private family so we don't have recent pictures of Alfons. However you might want to have a look at these posts. Enjoy!

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/124272-post51.html

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...4-post106.html

[Lakshmi]

I think he is 5 years old. Angela & Max married in 2000, and Alfons was probably born in 2001.

[TonyaR]

Alfons certainly is an adorable little boy. Are Prince Maximilian and Princess Angela close to the Prince's family, and do they have any other children?

[BurberryBrit]

I think Alfons is their only child. I can't speculate on how close they are with the rest of the family. I do know Angela is Godmother to one of her sister in law's children.

[Hilda Thomas]

I assisted in managing buildings that housed many top fashion designes like Carolina Herrara (a very distinguished lady) Jim Hjelm and other known designers I never heard of a A Brown as a designer I enquired and no one seems to be familar with Princess Angela (a former designer) Did she work for a designer? The Fashion District in New York has over a thousand designers some high class some just trying to make it while others barely keeping their heads above water. As for the photographers haunting down Princess Angela and Prince Max, in some cases reporters and photographers dig deep into matters before they write things that are not true because they can be sued. The Germans are tickled that a black woman of no prominence and to boot ll years Prince Max senior was able to penitrate the old Hasberg family. I assume that the Germans are fascinited with this love story. A soon to be middle age black woman and a young prince. History is in the making.
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[BurberryBrit]

According to what I've read on the net, Angela worked for Adrienne Vittadini and also sold her own designs.

[Hilda Thomas]

Burberry Brit, thank you for your note, I have been working in the Garment District(Fashion Avenue) in New York for years I met designers f from Europe, the middle East, Far East, South America Italy, and I can go on and on never heard of this person. if Princess Angela was a person of prominence her biography would have been in the book store already she is married to one of the richest Royal family in the world . Writers and biographers would have siezed the opportunity to cash in they cannot write (I assume) what is not true) I will put it this way she is older and wiser she caught a big fish at 42 years old. There are thousands of Fashion designers in New York, some are famous and other are not. even the small designers out of town are known.

[michelleq]

Originally Posted by Hilda Thomas

Burberry Brit, thank you for your note, I have been working in the Garment District(Fashion Avenue) in New York for years I met designers f from Europe, the middle East, Far East, South America Italy, and I can go on and on never heard of this person. if Princess Angela was a person of prominence her biography would have been in the book store already she is married to one of the richest Royal family in the world . Writers and biographers would have siezed the opportunity to cash in they cannot write (I assume) what is not true) I will put it this way she is older and wiser she caught a big fish at 42 years old. There are thousands of Fashion designers in New York, some are famous and other are not. even the small designers out of town are known.

Well Hilda, she has some prominence now, doesn't she. It was never noted anywhere that she was a famous designer, but that she worked for the designer that Burberry Brit stated and that she had designed under A. Brown. Anyone can design. Whether she was popular or, as to paraphrase you, prominent, was never noted nor that her designs were sold. She must be truly loved by her husband, esp. per your quote in bold print, "I will put it this way she is older and wiser she caught a big fish at 42 years old" and "a soon to be middle age black woman". Her husband's family has accepted her and apparently care for her and she is accepted by her new peers as she was accepted by her peers prior to her marriage. Your vast knowledge in the garment district is duly noted, but the tone of your posts, to me, are rather distasteful and prejudicial. If you want to state that her biography has been "fluffed" in any way, well that has been done by Royals and Celebrites for many a year. Again, I have always read that she worked for a desinger and had designed under A. Brown, no more, no less. Her new life is as HSH Princess Angela of Liechtenstein; she doesn't have to design another thing as long as she lives if she chooses not to. And I find it wonderful that many taboos of the past have been put to rest by "Intellegient Humans of today". I myself being an African American Woman am dating a 100% Hungarian American Man. His family, who were born in Hungary, are very kind and caring towards me. Who knows what the future may hold, but my, and his mind, have never been narrowed enough to limit ourselves to just our race; such as the generations after yours seem to be doing. Today, bigotry is only being held in the minds and lives of a certain element of people. And that is the tone I perceive when I read your post; again distasteful and prejudicial.

[BurberryBrit]

I think that just because Angela doesn't have an aristocratic background doesn't mean she isn't wonderful. For me, the fact that she was able to "catch" Prince Max despite her being of a different face, class, status, etc, just signals to me that she must have been a phenomenal woman who he simply couldn't resist despite what others may perceive as negatives in her background.

[michelleq]

Originally Posted by BurberryBrit

I think that just because Angela doesn't have an aristocratic background doesn't mean she isn't wonderful. For me, the fact that she was able to "catch" Prince Max despite her being of a different face, class, status, etc, just signals to me that she must have been a phenomenal woman who he simply couldn't resist despite what others may perceive as negatives in her background.

Bravo!!! And that she is!

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Hilda Thomas

Burberry Brit, thank you for your note, I have been working in the Garment District(Fashion Avenue) in New York for years I met designers f from Europe, the middle East, Far East, South America Italy, and I can go on and on never heard of this person. if Princess Angela was a person of prominence her biography would have been in the book store already she is married to one of the richest Royal family in the world . Writers and biographers would have siezed the opportunity to cash in they cannot write (I assume) what is not true) I will put it this way she is older and wiser she caught a big fish at 42 years old. There are thousands of Fashion designers in New York, some are famous and other are not. even the small designers out of town are known.

I read your posts, and they left me some what confused...What are you implying about Angela? Just because she wasn't "prominent" in the New York fashion circle doesn't mean that she wasn't a designer. If it was a lie, the media would have found it out at some point, and had a field day with it because that is what they do.

[Hilda Thomas]

My Dear Michelleq: I will quote Longfellow "Things are not what they seem!!!

[michelleq]

Originally Posted by Hilda Thomas

My Dear Michelleq: I will quote Longfellow "Things are not what they seem!!!

That is correct; many times people put on a facade for the world to see but in fact they may be the complete opposite.

I take offense to the derogatory statements with the racial undertones that you made in your posts . I find them quite offensive. But again, that is the way I perceive your posts, my dearest Hilda.