Royalty of Brunei

[Zina]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

Here's another royal couple from Brunei I'd like to know about.

Humera, Wadood's wife's name is Pengiran Siti Aminah, formerly known as Dayangku Siti Aminah.

[Zina]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

great pictures!
While I dont know anything about the Bruneian language, I believe the event might have something to do with people leaving for Hajj....i could be wrong

That's right Humera, the Sultan and his wife were granting an audience to all the people intending to go on the Haj next year. It's an annual tradition.

[Humera]

Originally Posted by Zina

Humera, Wadood's wife's name is Pengiran Siti Aminah, formerly known as Dayangku Siti Aminah.

Thanx again Zina.
I love the name Aminah, its so pretty.
btw..what do "pengiran" and "dayangku" mean?

[Humera]

And one more thing Zina, I know that one of the Sultan's daughters from his ex-wife is named Princess Azemah, she is, I believe, the older one and is standing right next to Prince Azem in this picture, am I right?. What's the name of the other sister?

[Zina]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

And one more thing Zina, I know that one of the Sultan's daughters from his ex-wife is named Princess Azemah, she is, I believe, the older one and is standing right next to Prince Azem in this picture, am I right?. What's the name of the other sister?

That's right, Azemah is the pretty one, the other daughter is Fadzillah Lubabul Bolkiah.

[Zina]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

Thanx again Zina.
I love the name Aminah, its so pretty.
btw..what do "pengiran" and "dayangku" mean?

Dayangku: female equivalent of Awangku, title used for unmarried daughters of a Pengiran, retained after marriage if the husband is a commoner.

In Aminah's case, she married a royal, so inherits the title of "Pengiran".

Pengiran: title of married male descendants in the male line of a Sultan or great nobleman, or for any female descendant in the male line who has married a man of that rank.
Basically, Pengiran is someone descended from royalty - A Pengiran's children would be "Dayangku" or "Awangku".
Courtesy of :

http://www.4dw.net/royalark/Brunei/brunei.htm

[Humera]

Originally Posted by Zina

Dayangku: female equivalent of Awangku, title used for unmarried daughters of a Pengiran, retained after marriage if the husband is a commoner.

In Aminah's case, she married a royal, so inherits the title of "Pengiran".

Pengiran: title of married male descendants in the male line of a Sultan or great nobleman, or for any female descendant in the male line who has married a man of that rank.
Basically, Pengiran is someone descended from royalty - A Pengiran's children would be "Dayangku" or "Awangku".
Courtesy of :

http://www.4dw.net/royalark/Brunei/brunei.htm

thanx Zina
I guess I was wondering if there were any English equivalent of those titles.
Like Prince Sufri's wife Faezah, for example, she doesn't have the title "princess" so I never know what to call her. Would Lady be appropriate?

[Zina]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

thanx Zina
I guess I was wondering if there were any English equivalent of those titles.
Like Prince Sufri's wife Faezah, for example, she doesn't have the title "princess" so I never know what to call her. Would Lady be appropriate?

I think Lady would be as close a term as you get, as far as it comes to an English equivalent for Datin Hjh Faezah.

"Datins" are usually ladies who are married to "Datuks" or "Datos". They are not nobility, according to the website.

It seems that Brunei royal court titles are numerous, so it's difficult to find English equivalents to all of them.

[kinneret5764]

What is P. Abdul-Azim up to these days? I know resides in the UK. Is he studying there or has he moved there to live permanently?

[Humera]

Originally Posted by Zina

I think Lady would be as close a term as you get, as far as it comes to an English equivalent for Datin Hjh Faezah.

"Datins" are usually ladies who are married to "Datuks" or "Datos". They are not nobility, according to the website.

It seems that Brunei royal court titles are numerous, so it's difficult to find English equivalents to all of them.

ah..okay
Have Prince Sufri's previous wives also had the same title? I recall you saying that he has had many wives and it seemed easier for the royal court to not give his wives the title of "HRH" since the title is usually taken away after a divorce.
How many wives exactly has Prince Sufri had? Have he and Faezah been married for long?

[Humera]

Originally Posted by kinneret5764

What is P. Abdul-Azim up to these days? I know resides in the UK. Is he studying there or has he moved there to live permanently?

He and his sisters and brother live in London with their mother for most of the time. But from what I've noticed, they are also in Brunei often.
Prince Azim, and his sisters to a lesser extent, seem to be very at home in London. They mix with the local celebrities very often and go to premiers etc.

[Humera]

Sep 26, 2004- Joint birthday party for Prince Azim and his sisters
Guests included Diana Ross, Eva Herzigova, Sharon and Jack Osbourne, Lennox Lewis.

[kinneret5764]

I think P. Abdul-Mateen still resides in Brunei. He's been making appearances at the Sultan, Crown Prince, and P. Abdul-Malik at recent events in Brunei, including at the funeral of Q. Saleha's brother on Wednesday.

[Humera]

Originally Posted by kinneret5764

I think P. Abdul-Mateen still resides in Brunei. He's been making appearances at the Sultan, Crown Prince, and P. Abdul-Malik at recent events in Brunei, including at the funeral of Q. Saleha's brother on Wednesday.

yeah you're right. I've seen him make more appearances in Brunei than any his other siblings. He also seems to be close to Prince Abdul Malik.
Perhaps he is a favourite of the Sultan, youngest children often are.

[Zina]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

ah..okay
Have Prince Sufri's previous wives also had the same title? I recall you saying that he has had many wives and it seemed easier for the royal court to not give his wives the title of "HRH" since the title is usually taken away after a divorce.
How many wives exactly has Prince Sufri had? Have he and Faezah been married for long?

I think he's had at least 4 wives. His previous wife, the Malaysian ex-pop singer, Mazuin, had a royal title of Pengiran Bini - Bini is a commonly used word for "wife" - not very prestigious. She only recently had the title taken away, though they had been divorced for a long time.

Yang Mulia Datin Faezah has been married to P. Sufri about 5 years. Datin is a very common title, lots of ladies in Brunei possess it, so it's not exclusively a royal title.

[Humera]

Originally Posted by Zina

I think he's had at least 4 wives. His previous wife, the Malaysian ex-pop singer, Mazuin, had a royal title of Pengiran Bini - Bini is a commonly used word for "wife" - not very prestigious. She only recently had the title taken away, though they had been divorced for a long time.

Yang Mulia Datin Faezah has been married to P. Sufri about 5 years. Datin is a very common title, lots of ladies in Brunei possess it, so it's not exclusively a royal title.

well I hope he won't divorce Faezah. She seems like a nice woman, and very attractive too. Prince Sufri must be a lot older than her.

[Humera]

Some pictures of Princess Rashidah's kids.
The first picture is so cute, her youngest daugther is holding the Queen's hand

[alfie]

Her name is Yang Mulia Datin Faezah, They have children a boy and a girl. She was the 2nd wife of Prince Sufri but now she is the only wife since early this year when Prince Sufri divorced his 1st wife. She has not be given a royal title.

[alfie]

He had throat cancer for quite a long time. He has been in treatement since then. Thats why his skin has been very bad due to treatement.