Royal Family of Brunei Current Events 2: August 2006-

[Empress]

Do I understand that he is muslim? If so, doesn't the muslim religion forbid that sort of behavior? Not to say that it does not happen, but you would think that the kind would try and reign the behavior in if it is indeed not really appropriate. Especially if the king is also the religious head in his country, or am I mistaken?

Not to say that the sort of behavior is appropriate at all, but I remember a discussion that I had with an Islamic friend, who said that it was really frowned upon. Did I misunderstand?

[Lady Cess]

Originally Posted by Tara20052

Forbes.com put on there Top 20 young Royals and Prince Azim has made the list...

The 20 Hottest Young Royals - Forbes.com

June 6, 2008...which is this friday on E!...for American viewers they will have a one hour special on the list at 9 p.m. pacific time.

I think his younger brother, Prince Mateen is more better looking.

[doutzy]

maybe prince azim is not as religious as his other siblings

[linakoc]

Yes, u can check the borneo bulletin online couple of weeks ago, Puan Hjh Mariam did accompanied one of her daughters who is the patron of to the Pusat Ehsan. She was ok being a commoner now but she does look so relaxed.

[linakoc]

Originally Posted by tlklhm

I guess Princess Sarah will be concentrating on her Uni studies and her son. If I am not wrong, she is studying public policy which I think might not be really her interest but because of her position. Read that her ambition before her marriage is to be a marine biologist so it might be extremely tough to study something that is not really her interest. Also everybody will be waiting to see her result..which make it double stress!!!

Infact she is at the moment studying at UBD despite performing her official duties. She actually had the chance to go to UK along with her other friends to further one year course but I guess she had to turn down the offer ..

[Observer08]

Dear colleagues,

I wanted to post this new thread to discuss and find out more about a once great entrepreneur and still a great person that is also a member of Brunei's Royal Family: HRH Prince Jefri Bolkiah. So here are my initial questions:
1. Why there was no post on HRH before?
2. Was HRH banned here too?
3. Where is he? UK or France?
4. Why can't we forgive and forget and move on?

HRH did great many things to improve Brunei's image (Empire, Jerudong Complex, DST, Berakas Power Station, Dorchester Hotels, etc.) Let's discuss this in detail?

[Cantik]

I can't find Majeedah and her husband informal photos! Is the palace peoples asked to pull out the picuters!
She is very beautiful with informal dress compare with she uses hijab. According to my friend who worked in BSB that the princesses not always used their hijab, specially for informal occasion, is it true or not, I don't know because I never go there!

[el-khanz]

I used to see some pics of Azeemah and Fadzilah without hijab. Even Princess Sarah also put off her hijab sometimes.

[Observer08]

Well I think HRH Prince Jefri is also a taboo here...very unfortunate that a visionary entrepreneur is treated with this manners. Very unfortunate that his countrymen and family has neglected his doings and did not realize how advanced his doings were for the nation.
One that goes to Brunei will never forget HRH as without his works, no one would ever be interested in going to Brunei at all.
Also unfortunate that HRH lost its hand at the helm of things and let his sons take care of much sophisticated/complicated stuff. If it weren't for that, Brunei would be like Dubai is now, only 10 years in advance...
What to do?
Just cry I guess...

[Observer08]

Can anyone engage in a topic about HRH Prince Jefri? Why is it that no one talks about it? What's wrong peoples?

[Warren]

Observer08, Prince Jefri is neither "taboo" nor "banned" in the Forums. The content of the threads reflects the members interests. You are interested in Prince Jefri, other members may be but they haven't posted on the subject. If there is no news, there is nothing to report and therefore nothing to which members can respond.

[Observer08]

Sorry Warren, my bad.

Thanks for the reply though.

[Warren]

You're not bad. You can post about Prince Jefri as much as you want. Members will respond if they are interested or have something to say. If they have no opinion on Prince Jefri then they won't post. Many of our younger members won't know who he is or why he has fallen out with his brother the Sultan.

[Observer08]

Warren, thank you again.

I agree with your point, most of the young don't know about it or just got what was "sold" on the history. Unfortunately I was there and I can tell you all that it has nothing to do with what the press published (both locally and abroad). HRH Prince Jefri did commit many excesses but he was ultimately chosen to be the fall person for a whole family. That is the said part...a power struggle so great between HRH Prince Mohammed and HM the Sultan that even Puan Mariam was partially framed. Yes, that is what happened. Anyone that was there, living what was going on can testify that all was being done with the consent of all the brothers and suddenly there was excess and one started fighting the other. HRH Prince Jefri tried to accomplish a better Brunei, a modern Brunei, like his father the late Begawan intended, with moderation and modernity walking along. All of a sudden, HRH Prince Mohammed (who did enjoy a lot of the moneys from BIA, etc) decided to play the pillar of morality and fought for his piece of the pie. If you go to Brunei now, you'll see no traces of HRH Prince Jefri but its very funny to observe that all businesses that once belonged to ADC now belong to QAF and its related/controlled companies.
Brunei got stuck into a perpetual fight among siblings that will only end once the generation changes. That is the only hope for a country that has being in the time travel tunnel for the past 10 years, stuck and barely functioning. Sad but true. With all my respect and admiration for a loving and caring monarch, HM should have stopped this nonsense among the younger brothers when it first started back in 1997/98...how much time has been lost? How much money has been lost/spent over lawyers, accountants, counsellors, etc? This has become a joke in Europe and America. The only ones benefitting from this are the ones that apply the divide and rule strategy and that really worked out in Brunei. No hope, no future, lots o shame, the people down hearted, a Prince in exile, a once Princess life trashed (along with her children) and all for what? Power? Money?
Back then there were great ideas, great projects, full employment, the people were happy, everyone was making a living. Sure there were mistakes but instead of chopping all up (like HRH Prince Mohammed insisted) the projects should have been reduced, slowed down but completed! Look at Jerudong Park now. This is a huge shame!!! Such a wonder now defunct! The list goes on...Asprey was bought for a fortune and sold for a song but later resold for a REAL fortune. Why the stupid decisions?
HRH Prince Jefri should only have surrounded himself with better advisors and not entrust his sons with too much power. Aside from that, the concept, all in all was absolutely GREAT!

[Humera]

Originally Posted by Observer08

Can anyone engage in a topic about HRH Prince Jefri? Why is it that no one talks about it? What's wrong peoples?

You'll find a couple of posts, including an article, on Prince Jefri on the previous page of this thread.
You can also search for other posts on the Prince, just type in "Jefri" under "Search this forum"

[Cantik]

Ok agreed all of you Warren and Observer 08, could you explaind to me : what is Puan Maryam partisipation in this case?
And anyone knows who are the peoples?

[Observer08]

There was no direct participation of Puan Maryam, at least not that I know of. Now from where I was I would say HRH Prince Mohammed was behind the frame + forcing his hand to get things worst...I did not see the logic of it until his family started getting more and more ground both in business as well as in power. Pardon me but HM cannot rule without DPPW, meaning he has gotten so powerful that there is a split rule today. HRH has key people everywhere in the government, from BIA up to BEBD and Muara Port, telecom, finance, development, etc. Now look at what has that caused us! No development, JPH is falling apart, JPP has been dismantled, etc. Everyone knows HRH was never a fan of Puan Mary, he just used the opportunity to take care of several issues at once! Sad that now Brunei sits as a lame duck!

[Observer08]

As to the list of people involved, its quite long: from people within CITIBANK high management at that time up to auditors, regular "go to" guys, P.As., etc. Lots of people were framed or almost framed, for instance: Pg Dato Tengah was framed and lost his job just because he was close to DPD and not that close to DPPW...Many people from abroad stole millions and one or two stole billions! Thus the name Dany Wong rings any bells? Now what's funny is that no one went after them, although everyone knows where they are, for instance, Dany Wong leaves happily and handsomely in Hong Kong where his daughter even has one of the finest boutique hotels in town...
If anyone has ever been into DPPW's places you will notice a pattern that follows the same as every other building from the time of DPD so its very strange that only DPD was the fall guy while the one pointing the finger also used and abused the system. Anyway, very sad that Brunei is stuck in a limbo for the past 10 years and nothing seams to get HM's eyes open. The real Brunei simply doesn't pass where HM goes...