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Old 09-21-2018, 06:11 PM
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Diane was not on the 4 generation Pïcture this Summer. I think the Grand Dukes can t' stand her too.

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Old 09-21-2018, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by maria-olivia View Post
Diane was not on the 4 generation Pïcture this Summer. I think the Grand Dukes can t' stand her too.
Yes, that was indeed the picture I was talking about. Although a true 4 generation picture would just include the direct line imo.

However, she does attend various family events that are also attended by the grand ducal couple. She is only completely excluded when it's about Jean's family from his first marriage. Nonetheless, I don't think she is really accepted by the grand duke (unless his refusal to grant her a princess title stems from his believe that their marriage isn't real because they didn't marry in the church - which they most likely cannot unless Jean and Helene's marriage is annulled).

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Old 09-22-2018, 04:21 PM
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Zeno is a name often used in the Goess Family from which Antonius mother comes. The son of Duchess Fleur of Württemberg and her husband Count Moritz of Goess was also christened Zeno.
Thank you Stefan. I didn't realise Zeno was a family name - it's pretty cool!
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:12 PM
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Princess Marie-Gabrielle , Antonius Willms and their son Zeno attended the wedding of Johannes Willms and Sophia Grivet Brancot on 1 September


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