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Old 09-25-2009, 12:53 PM
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Nobility in Luxembourg

Does the country have a nobility or aristocracy? Can the GD give titles to other people like he did for Tessy and the children?
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:21 PM
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Does the country have a nobility or aristocracy? Can the GD give titles to other people like he did for Tessy and the children?
Yes, they have a nobility. The Grand Duke can create titles for anyone he wants. The constitution gives him the right to create titles, however, titles are generally only created for members of the royal family the last exception I can recall being the titles for the former Swedish princes.
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:12 PM
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But Luxembourg has aristocratic families?
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Old 08-20-2015, 04:27 PM
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Noble titles in Luxembourg

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It is difficult to say if Luxembourg has an own Nobility. Until 1890 the Grand-Duke was the King of the Netherlands. The recognitions/incorporations/creations were done by Royal Decree amd were enlisted into the Peerage of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Under King Willem I the nobles had to register themselves into the "ridderschap" (board of knights) of their province (ridderschap van Gelderland, ridderschap van Brabant, etc). These boards of knights were represented in the First Chamber (Senate). Because of that, it was nicknamed "le ménagerie du Roi" (the King's zoo).

With the new Constitution of 1848 the nobles, assembled in their ridderschappen, lost their formal political influence. The Adelslijst (list of nobles) after 1848 does not mention the place of residence anymore, as being registered into a certain ridderschap was of no importance anymore. Any possible additions of Luxembourgian nobles after that are a guess, as the place of residence is no longer mentioned.

In the Nobility List of the Kingdom of the Netherlands from 1848 I can see Luxembourgian nobles (like after the Belgian secession, the nobles remain on this list). I can not see if these nobles (and later additions after 1848) were incorporated into a Nobility of the Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg, or that the Luxembourg Government simply continued the Dutch registers, after all the Kings were Grand-Dukes as well.

François Henri François-de-Paule baron d'ANETHAN from Latrapperie (Luxembourg).
The title of baron is hereditary but for the eldest son only.
The other sons are chevalier (ridder).

Pierre Félix Joseph baron d'ANETHAN from Forges la Trapperie (Luxembourg)
The title of baron is ad personam.

George baron d'ARNOULT DE SOULEUVRE from Château Linster (Luxembourg)
The title baron / baronne (barones) is for all descendants of the body male.

Antoine baron d'ARNOULT DE SOULEUVRE from Château Bernbourg (Luxembourg)
The title baron / baronne (barones) is for all descendants of the body male.

Gabriel baron d'ARNOULT DE SOULEUVRE from Château Differdange (Luxembourg)
The title baron / baronne (barones) is for all descendants of the body male.

Frédéric Georges Prospère comte DE BLOKHAUSEN from Château Bertrange (Luxembourg)
The title of comte (graaf) is hereditary but for the eldest son only.
The other sons are baron.

Ferdinand Joseph LE BRUM DE MIRAUMONT from Hondelange (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Henri Ambroise DE LA CHAPELLE from Luxembourg
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Charles Alexander Guillaume Joseph VAN EYLL from Scherpenich (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Godefroid DU FAING d'AIGREMONT from Luxembourg
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Jean Antoine Adolphe DE FELLER from Arlon (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

François Laurent Leon Marie Joseph Ghisbert DE FORMANOIR d'ARCHIMONT
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Augustin Alexandre François Joseph DE HOEFNAGLE DE SCHUTBOURG from Château Schutbourg (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Jean Jacques chevalier (ridder) DE HONTHEIM from Eich (Luxembourg)
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for male descendants.

François Albert Louis Hubert chevalier (ridder) DE HONTHEIM from Eich (Luxembourg)
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for male descendants.

Nicolas Joseph Simeon Guillaume chevalier (ridder) DE HONTHEIM from Steinsel (Luxembourg)
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for male descendants.

Nicolas François Guilain DE HOUT appelé (genaamd) HOLLER from Echternach (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Philippe Joseph Jacques baron d'HUART from Château Colnet d'Huart (Luxembourg)
The title baron is hereditary but for the eldest son only.
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all other descendants of the body male.

Charles Antoine Louis Joseph Félix chevalier (ridder) LAMOCK DE SOHIER from Sohier (Luxembourg)
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for all male descendants.

Henri Theodore Remacle chevalier (ridder) DE LANTREMANGE from Clervaux (Luxembourg)
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for all male descendants.

Deodatus Josephus Ignatius chevalier (ridder) VAN DER MAESEN from Luxembourg
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for all male descendants.

Jean Adolph Joseph chevalier (ridder) DE MARTINY from Luxembourg
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for all male descendants.

Pierre Ferrant baron DE MONTIGNY from Noville (Luxembourg)
The title baron is hereditary but for the eldest son only.
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all other descendants of the body male.

Guillaume Joseph DE NEUNHEUSER d'AIGREMONT from Luxembourg
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Charles Antoine Augustin d'OLYMART from Bettendorf (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Joseph Léopold chevalier (ridder) DE PAPIGNY from Clemarais (Luxembourg)
The title chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for all male descendants.

Antoine Florent Albert DE PREZ d'AYE from Aye (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Evrard Albert Joseph DE PREZ d'AYE from Aye (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Charles Auguste baron DE TORNACO from Sanem (Luxembourg)
The title baron / baronne (barones) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Jean Herman baron DE TRAPPÉ DE LOZANGE from Château Lozange (Luxembourg)
The title baron / baronne (barones) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Charlemagne Hyacinthe Ferdinand DE VAULX DE BLEID from Bleid (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Casimir Philippe Joseph Antoine René DE VILLERS MASBOURG from Mont (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.

Adolphe Antoine Joseph Népomucène Nicolas chevalier (ridder) DE VILLERS MASBOURG from Berg (Luxembourg)
The title of chevalier (ridder) is hereditary for all male descendants.

François Xavier DE WAUTIER from Rolle (Luxembourg)
The predicate écuyer (jonkheer / jonkvrouw) is hereditary for all descendants of the body male.
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:51 AM
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I don't know if Luxembourg had a chevalerie/ ridderschap / ritterschaft (board of knights) as Luxembourg had a status aparte compared with provinces as Liège, Brabant, Hainaut, Gelderland, etc. These provinces were part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. The Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg was an independent entity with the King as Grand-Duke. The same applied to the Duchy of Limbourg. It was only decades later that Limbourg became a normal province, but it had a ridderschap.

In the first Nobility Act of Willem I, King of the Netherlands, Grand-Duke of Luxembourg, Duke of Limbourg is to read:

Art 63 Constitution
The King elevates into the Nobility;
Anyone who has been elevated into the Nobility gives notice of that by showing the Letters of Patent to the States of their province;
And is consequently gifted with the privileges attached to the Nobility;
In particular by being registered into in the ridderschap (board of knights) of the province.

The question is if Luxembourg indeed had an own ridderschap. We could consider that as a sort of "Luxembourgian Nobility". By the way: such a ridderschap was not only a political vehicle. Members of the ridderschap had hunting rights in the whole province (which would have been a great pro in such a big, green and sparsely inhabited area as Luxembourg, back then three sizes bigger than the current Grand-Duchy). And some other privileges besides these hunting rights, like a seat in the Water, or Land, or Forest Authorities.
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Thank you very much for all of the information.

I have nothing to add, but since Luxembourg today is an independent nation with a separate head of state, wouldn't any creations of nobility using the prerogative provided to the Grand Duke by the constitution (Art. 40. Le Grand-Duc a le droit de conférer des titres de noblesse, sans pouvoir jamais y attacher aucun privilège) qualify as Luxembourg and not Dutch nobility, regardless of the situation before 1848?

The grand-ducal decree incorporating Prince Félix into the nobility in 1919 uses the wording "the nobility of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg".
Arrêté grand-ducal du 5 novembre 1919 admettant dans la Noblesse du Grand-Duché le Prince Félix-Marie-Vincent de Bourbon de Parme, troisième fils de S. A. R. Henri- Marie-Albert-Ferdinand - Charles - Pie - Louis- Antonin de Bourbon, Duc de Parme, Pla
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Thank you very much for all of the information.

I have nothing to add, but since Luxembourg today is an independent nation with a separate head of state, wouldn't any creations of nobility using the prerogative provided to the Grand Duke by the constitution (Art. 40. Le Grand-Duc a le droit de conférer des titres de noblesse, sans pouvoir jamais y attacher aucun privilège) qualify as Luxembourg and not Dutch nobility, regardless of the situation before 1848?

The grand-ducal decree incorporating Prince Félix into the nobility in 1919 uses the wording "the nobility of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg".
Arrêté grand-ducal du 5 novembre 1919 admettant dans la Noblesse du Grand-Duché le Prince Félix-Marie-Vincent de Bourbon de Parme, troisième fils de S. A. R. Henri- Marie-Albert-Ferdinand - Charles - Pie - Louis- Antonin de Bourbon, Duc de Parme, Pla
You most often do have something to add and you're right once again here TM! Your post had me remember the bad screenshot I have of the letter of the ennoblement of the demoted Bernadottes (quite curiously called Princes Bernadotte here) which, together with other acts of ennoblement that I found using the link you provided, talks about the "noblesse du Grand-Duché de Luxembourg" and "noble de notre Grand-Duché de Luxembourg" indicating that there is a Luxembourgian nobility.
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