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Old 05-15-2006, 08:46 PM
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Are you serious?

Do you think that Louis is the only royal (or any other person) that have visited the Pope that has had pre-marital sex? Do you think his older brothers are virgins?
I never said that I thought everyone else who has visited the Pope was a virgin. I never mentioned anyone else in fact.

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What about Leti and the others that visited the Pope (or not visited the Pope) before their marriages, do you think they were virgins and thus need a lecture from the Pope or should have stayed at home?
By Leti I presume you mean Princess Letizia of Spain. Letizia was married before Felipe so any sex she might have had would have been with her husband so that certainly isn't the same as what Louis and Tessy did.

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The child is one sure indication that Louis has had pre-marital sex. I hope you are are not assuming that those singles who haven't had an out-of-wedlock child, haven't had pre-marital sex. In the Catholic belief, the sin is the pre-marital sex, not the child. The child is a result of irresponsible (or no birth control). Plus, contraceptives are sinful also according to the Vatican.
I never said that Louis and Tessy are the first couple to ever have sex out of marriage. I just said that it seemd liked a contradictory example to be baptising your out of wedlock child as a teenager one week and a few weeks later be visiting the Pope who represents all things sacred and pure.

No need to attack me for my comment please.
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:20 PM
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By Leti I presume you mean Princess Letizia of Spain. Letizia was married before Felipe so any sex she might have had would have been with her husband so that certainly isn't the same as what Louis and Tessy did.
Again, you are assuming then that she and Felipe (of course I am not talking about her first husband) didn't have sex before they got married (which by the way is the desired behavior in the Catholic teachings and many other religious teachings). If they did, would you rebuke them?

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No need to attack me for my comment please.
I did not attack you, I commented on your extremely hypocritical comment. Please show me what words that I wrote which were a personal attack on you.

If Louis wanted forgiveness for his sins (and any other of his siblings that may have had pre-marital sex), then the Vatican is the right place to be. I do hope you uinderstand the simple fact I am trying to convey to you.

I'll spell it out.

1) Yes, an out-of-wedlock child is definite proof that Louis engage in pre-marital sex - which is a sin in the Catholic belief.

2) Just because neither of his siblings (which you DID NOT questioned their right to be there) has not produced an out-of-wedlock child DOES NOT mean they haven't engaged in pre-marital sex - which is a sin in the Catholic belief.

This is all I was trying to convey. I'll leave and let you continue with your rebuke of Louis..
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:50 AM
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it seemd liked a contradictory example to be baptising your out of wedlock child as a teenager
Ladies, please Now, I think the Catholic church is basically against any sin of any form, but they have never turned away children born outside marriage, so I guess there are sins and then there are sins. For example, I think GD's brother Jean is probably not welcome in the Vatican as he is divorced. BTW, there has been every now and then whispering about Henri and MT's marriage, and I think that the religion is perhaps the strongest thing to keep them on trying. He couldn't rule a country and be excommunicated, not at least in this case. Again, no offence meant.

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Old 05-19-2006, 11:15 AM
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Here's a interview that GD Maria Theresa gave to Revista Vanidades:
http://www.esmas.com/vanidades/nobleza/534148.html

Note: it is in spanish
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Old 05-20-2006, 05:49 AM
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What's the interview about I can't understand it.

I know its in Spanish but can anyone translate it into english.

Thanks for post Kelly.:)
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:43 PM
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It's very long to translate it all but I'll try...
It starts off talking about Luwembourg being a jewel lost in the middle France, Belgium and Germany.. and says something about its economy and then starts with MT and the DG's marriage.. that they had decided to celebrate their silver wedding anniversary in private with their 5 children.. they are considered a exemplary couple.. they got married on St. Valentine's in a veeerrryy cold day and that thousands of people companied them in the streets.. he was the hereditary DG and direct descendant of the kings of belgium while her family was from cuba.. with a good economic position.. they emigrated to USA.. she studied in the best shools in USA and switzerland.. "she represented the èlite of the adolescents of the 70's".. they met at university.. he made himself called "henry of Clairvaux" but yet he couldn't disguise his title...in his marriage day henry said "I can say she is my true love, the love of my life".. they have a lot of things in common.. she says he is a wonderfull man...MT explains how her marriage changed her life.. that difficult and different situations are presented everyday but fortunately she had 20 years.. since her marriage to her assumpion to get prepared to be the Grand Duchess... she is asked if guillaume had received a different education as he is the heir to the throne.. and she says that the stong values and principles and the education are common in all the children.. but as he is the future GD.. he has more responsibilities as being member of the state council.. companying his parent on state visits.. etc.. but he has total support of his siblings.. (there is a veeeryy brief biography of guillaume.. nothing new).. she is asked if she sees her sibling often.. and MT replies "as often as I can".. and adds that he sees more often her brother Louis and his wife Nicole.. and her sister Catalina.. who they all live in Geneva.. and she misses a lot his brother Antonio, who she rarely sees as he lives in Florida (USA)... she is asked about her experience when visiting old people's home while studying at university and she says that she lhas oved that experience.. thas she was moved to see their happiness when she went to see them.. and the amazing life experiences they told to her.. then it says that MT is a Unesco Godwill (?) ambassador and lists all the organizations she supports... and the people she has met for this cause such as women, in Bangladesh, who once went to ask her for a microcredit to feed their child and send him to school.. and years later (when she returned) that same child was preparing himself to go to university.. she is asked for the music she likes.. and says that she leaves clasic music for the GD and that she likes modern and Cubanian (?) music.. and sometimes even changes CDs with her children..lastly the reporter askes her if she wants to return to Cuba sometime... and she says thay obvipusly.. that when she went in 2002 with her sister Catalina, her eldest niece also called Catalina, Guillaume and Felix it was a very emotive visit becauste although she has left Cuba when she was very young and she can't remember much, the most beautiful things in life happen during the first years of life.. and that when she manages to return to cuba with her husband and her 5 chuldren.. her dream has finally come true..

Well.. here is a good and complete summery of the interview.. I hope it helps..
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:15 AM
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National Day next Friday, June 23rd. I'm guessing we'll see Grand Duke Henri and Guillaume in uniform? Hope to see the whole family there including Louis. Is he in Luxembourg at the moment or with Tessy and Gabriel elsewhere?
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Old 06-18-2006, 07:34 AM
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Hey does any1 no anythin about Alexander of Luxembourg he's so sute!!
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:58 AM
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I think that is the Son of Marie Astrid? Alexander.....
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Old 06-21-2006, 08:57 AM
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I think that is the Son of Marie Astrid? Alexander.....
Yes, Marie Astrid has a son named Alexander.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:03 PM
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Yes, Marie Astrid has a son named Alexander.
he was born June 26th, 1990
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Old 06-22-2006, 03:06 AM
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Isn't Marie Astrids son Alexander an Arch Duke of Austria?
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:07 AM
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Isn't Marie Astrids son Alexander an Arch Duke of Austria?
yes, all of her offspring are, including herself, via marriage to her husband.
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Old 06-22-2006, 07:22 AM
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21-06-2006 Frankfurt Prime minister of the German federal state Hessen Roland Koch (CDU,R) welcomes in Wiesbaden grand duke Henri of Luxemburg and duke of Nassau (C) and ancestral grand duke Guillaume of Luxemburg and ancestral prince of Nassau in Wiesbaden ahead of the game Netherlands v Argentina

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Old 06-28-2006, 02:24 PM
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Guillaume must have shaved before National Day, because he appears clean shaven in all the photos. He must have heeded the advice on his thread, lol. :)
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:47 AM
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i don't think that he shaved it b/c of what we've been saying on this thread. if anything, he probably kept it b/c some of us said that it had started to grow on us, etc, plus there's the fact that he's had it on several official occasions, such as that recent trip to germany. more than likely, he shaved it due to the fact that he needed to be clean shaven for natl day because he was to be in military dress, which usually requires one to be "neat and tidy".
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Old 07-03-2006, 10:13 PM
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I really liked the facial hair on him. Then again, with or without facial hair, I think he still looks handsome.

msfroyste, or anyone else, since you're such an expert on the family , I wonder if you know of any photos of Guillaume interacting with children. I have seen very few of them...are there any more other than the National Day's photos?

I just think it's great when we get to see him with children. The thought warms my heart. :) I would really LOVE to see him interacting with children more. :)
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:55 AM
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I really liked the facial hair on him. Then again, with or without facial hair, I think he still looks handsome.
I'm glad he got rid of facial hair. But agree w/ or w/out it he's good looking.:)
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Old 07-04-2006, 06:34 AM
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msfroyste, or anyone else, since you're such an expert on the family , I wonder if you know of any photos of Guillaume interacting with children. I have seen very few of them...are there any more other than the National Day's photos?

I just think it's great when we get to see him with children. The thought warms my heart. :) I would really LOVE to see him interacting with children more. :)
I found some :) :





pictures from www.rtl.lu
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:56 AM
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Thank you so much, mims!! I just love those photos of him with children. I do wish he'd be more involved with the children.
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