Change of Sucession for the Grand Duchy; June 2011

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Saschana

You're welcome!

The whole family was there for Jean and Helene's wedding. Despite the child out of wedlock the family has always supported the union and it seems as if they have taken Helene's side in the divorce. There were rumours that Jean was already involved with Diane when he was still married to Helene and the only family member who attended his 2nd wedding was Prince Guillaume. I don't know whether Sibilla and their children were there too. Non of his other siblings, nieces or nephews were there. I think Diane has never attended any event within Luxembourg so it seems that the family is not very welcoming towards her.



Nothing would really change had they included Alexandra. Guillaume would still be first in line and Felix second. Alexandra would be third and Sebastien fourth, actually the place he was born in as Louis renounced his rights.
I have to agree with the Luxarazzi-Blogger, I too find it strange as Alexandra is clearly a descendant of the current Grand Duke and it doesn't seem as if they really want an equal succession... It would only mean that two people would be added to the line - Princess Alexandra and Princess Charlotte - and there are highly unlikely to inherit.

Why did Louis renounce his rights?

[Saschana]

He fathered a child out of wedlock at the age of 19. Gabriel was born in March 2006 and he married the mother of his child later that year in September. When they got married Louis decided that he would renounce his rights as any other son born during their marriage would have been in the line of succession while Gabriel wouldn't have, as Luxembourg doesn't have the option of legitimising children through marriage.
More specifically he didn't ask for consent so he lost his rights. No one knows whether he would have gotten the consent...

[Sancia]

Originally Posted by Saschana

He fathered a child out of wedlock at the age of 19. Gabriel was born in March 2006 and he married the mother of his child later that year in September. When they got married Louis decided that he would renounce his rights as any other son born during their marriage would have been in the line of succession while Gabriel wouldn't have, as Luxembourg doesn't have the option of legitimising children through marriage.
More specifically he didn't ask for consent so he lost his rights. No one knows whether he would have gotten the consent...

The wording of the wedding announcement could let think that, as parents, the grand duke and the grand duchess welcomed Tessy in the family but that the couple wouldn't have got the consent.

[Domhangairt]

Originally Posted by Saschana

You're welcome!

The whole family was there for Jean and Helene's wedding. Despite the child out of wedlock the family has always supported the union and it seems as if they have taken Helene's side in the divorce. There were rumours that Jean was already involved with Diane when he was still married to Helene and the only family member who attended his 2nd wedding was Prince Guillaume. I don't know whether Sibilla and their children were there too. Non of his other siblings, nieces or nephews were there. I think Diane has never attended any event within Luxembourg so it seems that the family is not very welcoming towards her.



Nothing would really change had they included Alexandra. Guillaume would still be first in line and Felix second. Alexandra would be third and Sebastien fourth, actually the place he was born in as Louis renounced his rights.
I have to agree with the Luxarazzi-Blogger, I too find it strange as Alexandra is clearly a descendant of the current Grand Duke and it doesn't seem as if they really want an equal succession... It would only mean that two people would be added to the line - Princess Alexandra and Princess Charlotte - and there are highly unlikely to inherit.

I'm not sure I agree with Absolute Primogeniture for two reasons;
1) This means the end of well established European dynasties like the Bourbons, and the Oldenburgs, since these thrones wll pass out of these families through the female line.
2) What if the Crown Princess makes an unsuitable marriage? Lady Davina Windsor, daughter of the Duke of Gloucester married a Maori- had she been 1st in line to the Throne, Britain would have ended up with a Maori royal family. What if the Crown Princess marries a Malaysian Muslim, or a Polish man. This means a foreign family on the Throne- this is what happened in Scotland when female line succession was first permitted- with disastrous consequences for the Celtic population of Scotland.,
3) Some families have a genetic tendency to produce male children first- like the Mac Gregors of Glencarnaig- the family of the Chiefs of the Scottish Clan Gregor. In this case , the country would never see a female ruler.
I believe it is better to have a Dynastic-Elective monarchy like Thailand, or Cambodia. The monarch is elected, so long as they belong to the Royal House in the male line- could be either a king or a queen.

[annie02]

Lux-arazzi is now reporting that Princess Alexandra is in the line sucession now, ahead of Prince Sebastian. The only reason I can think of that the Cour Grand-Ducale is insisting the change is not retroactive (which it must be, since Princess Alexandra is included where she would have been had the current rules been in effect at the time of her birth) is that obviously Grand Duke Henri is not being replaced by his older sister. The would be totally illogical, but perhaps that's why they're insisting it's not truly retroactive.

Luxembourg: The Neverending Story...

I do agree with the blog post in that it would just be so much easier for the Cour Grand-Ducale to just publish the full line of succession.

It's likely a moot point, since both HGD Guillaume and Prince Felix would have to die childless for it matter where Princess Alexandra is, but stranger things have happened. (Don't misunderstand--I wish nothing but the best for both Guillaume and Felix, you just never know.)