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11-20-2005, 05:13 AM
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Senior Japanese lawmaker opposes woman on throne
TOKYO (AFP) - A senior Japanese lawmaker has opposed growing calls to let a woman ascend the throne, saying it would destroy the genetic "treasure" of the world's oldest monarchy. "A male has an X-Y chromosome combination while a female has an X-X. Nowhere else in the world would you be able to see a Y chromosome maintained over 125 generations" as in Japan's dynasty, former trade minister Takeo Hiranuma said....... http://au.news.yahoo.com/051120/19/wvkf.html 
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11-20-2005, 09:39 PM
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Push for royal equality
ONLY days after Japan's Princess Sayako married a commoner, an advisory panel plans to recommend that princesses retain their royal status....... http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...55E663,00.html Spain and Japan Forced to Reassess Succession Rules The two countries face a constitutional dilemma based solely on gender. (Angus Reid Global Scan) Wilson Lam – With the birth of Princess Leonor in Spain last month, public interest in the country’s constitutional succession rules was renewed. Even though she is the firstborn child of Prince Felipe and Princess Letizia, Leonor is bound by the present constitution to relinquish her claim to the throne to any younger brother she may come to have. Indeed, Felipe’s own position as heir is predicated on this doctrinal interpretation of primogeniture, as he has two elder sisters. A similar situation exists in Japan. The Crown Prince Naruhito’s only daughter, three-year-old Princess Aiko, is forbidden by the country’s constitution from ascending to the throne. The line of succession in the current situation would pass from Emperor Akihito to Naruhito and then to Prince Fumihito, the crown prince’s sole younger brother. Even then, however, the crisis would not be averted as Fumihito has two children, both of whom are girls...... http://www.angus-reid.com/analysis/i...em&itemID=9923
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11-21-2005, 12:21 AM
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Concubines??
Prince Tomohito has some nerve suggesting concubines in the 21st century! That child will not be born of legitimate blood and would be accepted over Aiko if it is a boy? This is ridiculous and how Masako feels after hearing such stupidity, I don't want to venture a guess.
Once Princess Aiko is accepted as the heir, I believe Masako will improve her health and take her role in preparing her daughter for her future.
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11-21-2005, 11:26 AM
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Japanese panel backs female emperors
Japan today opened the door to the possibility of its first female emperor in more than 200 years after a government advisory panel recommended changing the country's succession laws....... http://www.guardian.co.uk/japan/stor...html?gusrc=rss Japan panel backs allowing female monarchs - A government panel discussing imperial succession decided Monday to propose allowing female members of the royal family to ascend to Japan's throne. Panelists agreed that Japan's succession law should be changed to give the first-born child the right to ascend regardless of gender, said committee head Hiroyuki Furukawa, a former Tokyo University president..... http://www.heraldonline.com/24hour/w...11585047c.html Panel to push for female emperor A government panel on imperial succession decided Monday its final report will propose that the oldest child of the emperor--regardless of sex--should be the first in line to ascend the Chrysanthemum throne. The report will be submitted to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi on Thursday..... http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-...511210397.html Japan panel backs allowing female monarchs to ascend throne A government panel discussing Imperial succession decided Monday to propose allowing females and their descendants to ascend Japan's Imperial Throne. Panelists agreed that Japan's succession law should be changed to give the first-born child the right to ascend regardless of gender, said committee head Hiroyuki Furukawa, a former Tokyo University president..... http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/nation...na026000c.html Married women should stay in Japan's imperial family: panel TOKYO (AFP) - A Japanese government panel suggests letting daughters stay in the royal household after marriage, a week after the emperor's only daughter lost her title by marrying a commoner. The recommendation would be in a report which the panel has already said would propose letting a woman ascend the throne of the world's oldest monarchy...... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051121...n_051121165013 #1:ANN news Last edited by mandyy; 11-21-2005 at 12:10 PM.
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11-22-2005, 01:41 PM
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Japan still to favor boy if woman allowed on throne: report
TOKYO (AFP) - A Japanese panel that wants to let a woman sit on the throne has declared that it will still favor a boy if Crown Princess Masako bears a male child...... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051122...n_051122104045 Princess may not gain from throne plan-paper Aiko's chances of ascending the imperial throne could be nullified if a younger brother is born, despite a plan to give women the same right as men to inherit, a newspaper said on Tuesday. Only male descendants of Japan's emperor can inherit the Chrysanthemum Throne at present and because no royal boys have been born in 40 years there have been concerns about a succession crisis..... http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news...SUCCESSION.XML Panel backs female accession to throne; opposition expected Proposals submitted by a government panel that decided Monday in favor of allowing females and their descendants to ascend the Imperial throne are likely to face a rough ride after they are finalized as many people are strongly opposed to the recommendations. The 10-member panel headed by former Tokyo University President Hiroyuki Yoshikawa will submit a final report based on the outline Thursday to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi to pave the way for revising the Imperial House Law. The two key points of the recommendations, submitted in an effort to avert an expected succession crisis, are: _The firstborn child of an emperor, regardless of gender, should be given priority in the order of succession. _A female Imperial family member should be allowed to set up royal families, in place of the existing system under the Imperial House Law that requires such a person to leave the Imperial household when marrying a commoner..... http://www.timesleader.com/mld/times...d/13233984.htm Panel backs female accession to throne / But recommendations likely to facestrong opposition from traditionalists http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national...23TDY03007.htm Last edited by mandyy; 11-22-2005 at 02:53 PM.
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11-22-2005, 01:43 PM
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Panel puts off timetable for female-emperor system
A panel on imperial succession will not specify when to start its proposed system of allowing female emperors because Crown Prince Naruhito and Crown Princess Masako might still have a baby boy, sources said Tuesday. But the panel members have not discussed how long to wait to see if a boy will be born into the family, meaning that changing the imperial succession system will likely be a very difficult process. http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200511220433.html
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11-23-2005, 03:51 PM
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Report calls for Japanese empress
THREE-YEAR-OLD Princess Aiko will become Japan's empress and the ancient principle of direct male succession to the Chrysanthemum Throne will be abolished if a report commissioned by Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi is accepted. But the final report by a panel of 10 "wise men" to be handed to Mr Koizumi today is likely to arouse strong opposition because it takes the most radical approach available to the imperial family's succession problem..... http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5E2703,00.html Japanese panel set to propose letting women ascend throne TOKYO -- A government panel was expected to formally recommend Thursday breaking with over two centuries of male-only imperial rule to allow women to ascend the throne to avert a succession crisis. The 10-member panel appointed from academic, legal, business and political circles was to submit the final report to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi after a meeting from 6:00 p.m. (0900 GMT)...... http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index....story_id=57620 Last edited by mandyy; 11-24-2005 at 02:59 AM.
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11-24-2005, 03:33 PM
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Koizumi set to pave way for female emperor
After 10 months of debate, a government panel Thursday submitted recommendations on imperial succession that will break a male-lineage tradition dating back to mythical times and could create such a divisive debate that Emperor Akihito is reportedly concerned. The panel's report, submitted to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, proposed that females and their descendants should be allowed to ascend the Chrysanthemum throne. The panel, set up to discuss the succession crisis because no boy has been born to the imperial family for nearly 40 years, said changes are necessary to maintain stability in imperial succession. "I think it is a very meaningful report," Koizumi told reporters at his official residence. "I believe that the report was created with the understanding that an imperial system based on hereditary succession depends on a stable succession system....... http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-...511240434.html Panel submits final report proposing allowing female monarchs A government panel on imperial succession submitted a final report Thursday that proposes allowing females and their descendants to ascend Japan's imperial throne that would pave the way for 3-year-old Princess Aiko to eventually become Japan's first female monarch since the 18th century. The report, submitted to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, said the emperor's firstborn child, regardless of sex, should be next in line to the throne -- a proposal intended to avoid an expected succession crisis in the world's oldest hereditary monarchy. "To reach one conclusion here has an aspect of opening a new page in our nation's history, and I feel a heavy responsibility," Hiroyuki Yoshikawa, head of the panel, said after its last meeting at a news conference. Koizumi reiterated that the government will prepare to submit a bill to revise the Imperial House Law during a regular Diet session next year. The law, enacted in 1947, allows only male heirs who have emperors on their father's side to reign..... http://asia.news.yahoo.com/051124/kyodo/d8e2qmho0.html Experts' views on succession vary The following are comments from three scholars on the proposal for Imperial succession compiled by a government panel. The three offered the panel their views on the matter....... http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national...23TDY03003.htm Blue ribbon panel paves way for Empress A panel on Imperial succession was set Thursday to formally recommend that women and their children be allowed to ascend the ancient Chrysanthemum Throne -- saving Japan's male heir-deprived Imperial Family from a succession crisis...... http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/nation...na025000c.html Panel offers solution to succession issue A government panel on Imperial succession submitted to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi on Thursday its final report, which proposes major changes. The report calls for females and their descendants also to be allowed to ascend the throne, and the emperor's firstborn child, regardless of sex, given priority in the order of succession. As female members of the Imperial household would gain the right of succession, they would retain their status even after marriage to commoners. The Imperial House Law says only male heirs who have emperors on their father's side may reign....... http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/editoria...25TDY04004.htm Female monarch ignites debate The proposal of a government panel on imperial succession to allow females and their descendants to ascend the imperial throne has ignited debate in Japan about a possible "historical change" in the world's oldest hereditary monarchy. Based on the proposal, the government plans to submit a bill to the Diet in the spring to revise the Imperial House Law, enacted in 1947, which allows only male descendents who have emperors on their father's side to ascend the throne, a government official said. No male imperial family members have been born since Prince Akishino in 1965. The prince is second in line to the throne after his older brother, Crown Prince Naruhito. But there still seems to be more hurdles to cross before a "stable succession" can be assured as traditionalists and conservatives who are strongly oppose the change have been aggressively trying to sway public opinion on the matter, even though media polls indicate that there is broad public support for letting a woman sit on the throne..... http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=comment&id=868 Female monarchs get green light Move clears way for Aiko to become reigning empress A government panel on Imperial succession concluded Thursday that females and their descendants should be allowed to ascend to the Chrysanthemum Throne. The move paves the way for 3-year-old Princess Aiko, the only child of Crown Prince Naruhito and Crown Princess Masako, to become Japan's first female monarch since the 18th century. The panel's final report on the matter, submitted to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, said the Emperor's firstborn child, regardless of gender, should be next in line to the throne. "To reach a conclusion here has the aspect of opening a new page in our nation's history, and I feel a heavy responsibility," Hiroyuki Yoshikawa, head of the panel, told a news conference. The proposal is designed to forestall an expected succession crisis in the world's oldest hereditary monarchy. "We have considered (the issue) from the recognition that it is most important that the Emperor system, which has continued from ancient times in hereditary succession, be stably maintained in the future and that is many people's hope," the report says. Accordingly, the government plans to submit a bill to revise the current Imperial House Law to the Diet next spring, a government official said. The law, enacted in 1947, allows only male heirs who have emperors on their father's side to reign. The 10-member panel started debating the issue in January; no male heir has been born to the royal family since 1965 and it is thought that Crown Princess Masako, a 41-year-old former diplomat, is suffering from stress due to pressure to bear a male heir...... http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/...20051125a1.htm Empress role moves closer for Japan's little princess JAPAN took a step yesterday towards clearing the path for three-year-old Princess Aiko to become its first reigning empress in centuries. A panel of experts recommended to the prime minister, Junichiro Koizumi, that the law be amended to give women the same rights as men to inherit the throne, allowing the eldest child to inherit regardless of gender...... http://news.scotsman.com/internation...?id=2299442005 #1: JIJI press- Hiroyuki Yoshikawa (head of the panel) submitting the report to Koizumi #2: ANN news #3: FNN news #4: (newscom)-Hiroyuki Yoshikawa (L), head of a government panel on imperial succession, on Nov. 24 hands in a final report to Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, which proposes allowing females and their descendants to ascend Japan's imperial throne, a step that would pave the way for 3-year-old Princess Aiko, the only child of Crown Prince Naruhito and Princess Masako, to eventually become Japan's first female monarch since the 18th century. Last edited by mandyy; 11-24-2005 at 08:46 PM.
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11-25-2005, 05:36 AM
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Academics, Shinto shrines criticize allowing female-line succession
A group of academics and a Shinto shrine association on Friday criticized a government panel's recommendation to allow a female line of succession to Japan's imperial throne as it would break with tradition. "The imperial household is supporting Japanese culture at the core. The issue should be discussed over more time," Hideaki Kase, a member of the group and an analyst of diplomacy, said during a news conference........ http://asia.news.yahoo.com/051125/kyodo/d8e3e2bo1.html Academics slam decision to allow female ascension Academics and other commentators Friday blasted a government panel's recommendation that women and their descendants be allowed to ascend to the Chrysanthemum Throne, claiming it would break with tradition. "The Imperial household is supporting Japanese culture at the core. The issue should be discussed over more time," diplomatic analyst and group member Hideaki Kase said...... http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/...20051126a3.htm Conservatives vow to stop imperial succession change A national group of conservative politicians and academics expressed opposition Friday to a government panel's recommendation to allow women to ascend the Chrysanthemum throne. The group said it intends to foil any attempt to revise the 1947 Imperial House Law, which stipulates that only male imperial family members with male lineage can be in line for the throne....... http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-...511250347.html Last edited by mandyy; 11-26-2005 at 03:14 AM.
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11-26-2005, 06:23 AM
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Do they really believe that chromosomes are a good enough reason not to allow women to succeed? If this chromosome theory was correct, then both of the Emperor's sons would have had boys and not girls!
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11-26-2005, 10:45 PM
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I get the feeling many of those opposing the idea of a female emperor still can't believe it's the father who determines sex of his children's. I can't imagine what kind of blame they would have heeped on Masako behind the palace doors to drive her ill.
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11-26-2005, 11:02 PM
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I don't even want to think of what they must have, and must still be putting, Masako through. They did say that if a son is born he is ahead of his sister, so they must still be putting pressure on her to have a son. They're treaing her like nothing more than an incubator, it's horrible.
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11-27-2005, 12:31 AM
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I think what Incas meant was that, the fathers side of things (without getting to graphic) is the deciding factor in the sex of the baby. Whether its an XY or XX chromosome (don't ask me which is which) is due to the father biologically, not the mother.
But I agree with you Incas, by the sounds of how controlled and old fashioned it is within the royal household, and I mean the aides, not the actual royal family, probably significantly had to do with Masako's illness.
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11-27-2005, 12:41 AM
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Anyway, I really hope they change the rules to allow little Aiko succession.
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11-28-2005, 07:35 AM
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Everyone thank you for the info. But, what I meant was that how can the politicians say that, scientifically, a male emperor is more likely to have a male child and not the husband of a female empress?
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11-30-2005, 08:06 PM
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Well, beyond the XY chromosome stuff, there is also the idea of carrying on family name and bloodline. Traditional societies such as the one in Japan puts enormous emphasis on carrying the family name through the male line. It's not like they don't think a female empress can bear male children, it's the idea that the see would be from her consort, thus diluting the bloodline.
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11-30-2005, 08:12 PM
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 Both parents contribute equal DNA. Male or female - the Imperial parent would still continue the bloodline equally.
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