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Old 12-14-2014, 02:35 PM
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They don't amend that illogical out of date succession rule to at the very least allow princess's son's to inherit it's Russian roulette they are playing on the biggest scale... What happens if Hisahito dies young or has no children or just girls or if his son is just not suitable in some way.This child, mostly likely literally produced for this purpose, is what they are depending on will keep the oldest monarchy and the traditions of millennia alive? Really?
A Imperial Princess's sons could inherit if she married an Imperial Prince! The Imperial Family is so small now that that isn't likely to happen, or even be a good idea. An Imperial Princess, if she so desires, should be allowed to retain her status and start a new branch of the family. A simple and practical solution.
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:54 PM
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Yeah,They got rid of the cadet royal and ancient noble families after the war which if course got rid of all the eligible prince's royal ladies would traditionally marry so part of the debacle right there.
What they should do and what they will are two totally different animals...To eventually save the monarchy they, the IHA and conservative PTB, will only go as far as they absolutely have to which, IMO, won't give the females an inch...their son's maybe. Heck, if they could I imagine a few would bring back concubine's if they could.
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:11 PM
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I'd vote yes; the people may love their imperial house, but surely they must realize the heartache imposed on the family by all of the unreasonable restrictions they face.
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:17 PM
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Together with Sweden, the Japanese is the least politcal involved and utterly ceremonial monarchy. So it is what it is: a purely ceremonial symbol of Japan. And knowing how Japan loves its traditions and elaborate ceremonies, the country will be the very last to abolish the ancient monarchy, I think.

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I'd vote yes; the people may love their imperial house, but surely they must realize the heartache imposed on the family by all of the unreasonable restrictions they face.
They do not. It is totally ganz selbstverstńndlich in their culture, to use a German saying (totally natural). You only need to look at the known rites for marriage, funerals, traditional sports like sumo, takagari (falconry), kyudo (archery), aikido (martial arts), etc. to see how utterly deep-rooted these ceremonies and cultural standards are. Princess Akishino and Princess Kiko show that they are very modern and approachable royals by the way, without neglecting the traditions. Look at this fantastic picture: http://jto.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-conte...0111105a5a.jpg
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:32 PM
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For most all of Japanese history The emperor has been a puppet simply there for ceremonial purposes and so on and the various power holding samurai, warlords or governments could say they had the power of the Gods. He could conveniently be put aside by fair or fowl means if he got notions of power. The only difference now is that they aren't having dozens of sons to carry on.
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:56 PM
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Always monarchy.

I hope that the monarchy of Japan lasts forever. And the others, too.

Viva monarchies. Alive traditions!!!
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Old 12-14-2014, 04:10 PM
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Just imagine if the Portuguese, Russian, French, Chinese monarchies and all the rest were still around...Think of the discussions, the bling, the debates, the bling, the fashions, the bling we would have here.
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Old 12-14-2014, 05:14 PM
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For most all of Japanese history The emperor has been a puppet simply there for ceremonial purposes and so on and the various power holding samurai, warlords or governments could say they had the power of the Gods. He could conveniently be put aside by fair or fowl means if he got notions of power. The only difference now is that they aren't having dozens of sons to carry on.
Presidents/Prime Ministers in the enlightened western regimes are puppets too. They front for money of rich industrialists and financiers/bankers.
I highly doubt that the Japanese will abolish the monarchy. Appropriate measure will be taken to continue the dynasty.
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Old 12-14-2014, 05:23 PM
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Is there such debate in Japan ?
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:53 AM
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Yeah,They got rid of the cadet royal and ancient noble families after the war which if course got rid of all the eligible prince's royal ladies would traditionally marry so part of the debacle right there.
What they should do and what they will are two totally different animals...To eventually save the monarchy they, the IHA and conservative PTB, will only go as far as they absolutely have to which, IMO, won't give the females an inch...their son's maybe. Heck, if they could I imagine a few would bring back concubine's if they could.
"They", aka the US, did get rid of the nobles and aristocracy post WWII, however, they can take away the title but the people, the families are still there and I would bet they are as "aristocratic" as ever whatever their names are. I am sure that those cadet royal and ancient noble titles could have had those titles restored if they so wished.
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Yes, exactly! set one of those young Princes or Dukes up with Mako or Kako in an arranged but not too arranged marriage and you've got your much vaunted male babies...But it would be so much less trouble to just let the ladies have a right! in the past they had empresses and the throne even passed from mother to daughter once.
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Is there such debate in Japan ?
No, there is no debate in Japan to abolish the monarchy. The only chance that Japan becomes a republic, is if the monarchy dies out.

ChiaraC know more about this, but she sadly doesn't post here anymore.
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Old 12-15-2014, 03:03 AM
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Presidents/Prime Ministers in the enlightened western regimes are puppets too. They front for money of rich industrialists and financiers/bankers.
I highly doubt that the Japanese will abolish the monarchy. Appropriate measure will be taken to continue the dynasty.
AMEN to that. You speak the truth!
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No, there is no debate in Japan to abolish the monarchy. The only chance that Japan becomes a republic, is if the monarchy dies out.

ChiaraC know more about this, but she sadly doesn't post here anymore.
What is the only chance to become Republic?

The Emperor is the brand image of Japan. The Japanese monarchy should be the safest of all.
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Tenno (Emperor) is the highest priest of the Shinto religion, who deals with important heavenly affairs. The Windsors in the UK or any other European royal family can be viewed as a brand image.
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Tenno (Emperor) is the highest priest of the Shinto religion, who deals with important heavenly affairs. The Windsors in the UK or any other European royal family can be viewed as a brand image.
In the United Kingdom, the Queen is head of the Anglican Church. Are roles alike.

All monarchs are hallmarks that must be preserved. In my opinion.
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Unlike English sovereigns, Emperors of Japan are said to be the direct descendants of the sun-goddess Amaterasu. The Japanese usually call the Emperor "Tennō", which means "heavenly sovereign".

Rulers of the British Isles were Roman Catholic. Then Henry VIII decided to form his own church to get a divorce. It is up to Europeans to preserve or change their lacklustre brand images.
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Next Monday the Emperor abdicated, this could damage the image of the monarchy?
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Next Monday the Emperor abdicated, this could damage the image of the monarchy?
No, then his son Naruhito will become the new Emperor and revive the monarchy. Did the abdications of King Juan Carlos of Spain, King Albert II of the Belgians, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Pope Benedictus XVI or Grand-Duke Jean of Luxembourg damage their monarchies?
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