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Old 07-02-2017, 09:37 PM
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The Duchess: The Untold Story by Penny Junor – digested read

‘After leaving school with one O-level in kennel hygiene, Camilla was a much sought-after debutante’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-parker-bowles
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Satire. Pretty funny.
Did either of you actually read the article that John Grace wrote? It is vile, vulgar and inaccurate.

The Guardian is an anti-monarchist paper. And reported blow-jobs their level.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:52 PM
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It's satire. And I've read both the article and the book.
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Old 07-02-2017, 11:14 PM
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Actually I thought it was pretty good satire once I read it. Very good job at poking fun at royal "insiders" who know the "scoop" as in Camilla wouldn't have gotten out of bed to go to the registry hall unless he was there to assure her of all the wondrous things to come.

Anyone who read that article and took it seriously should reread it again.
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Old 07-03-2017, 04:42 AM
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Its very possible too that with both Camilla and Charles being on the young side during the "sexual revolution" of the 60s, both of them could easy state at the time "whatever in love means".

Perhaps Camilla, herself, was in a quandary. She was dating both Andrew and Charles at the same time. Andrew was dashing and debonair and Charles was a relationship more at the emotional level. I don't know. It could be that the dashing and debonair won out over the emotional. I do know that the Parker-Bowles marriage was more of the aristocratic open and discreet kind and with that, Camilla was able to explore the emotional relationship with Charles (at different levels) while still having the dashing and debonair Andrew.

It just so happens that in the end, the emotional bond between Charles and Camilla won out.
Just that! That all important and major aspect of the relationship between Charles and Camilla - the emotional bond - was always there. Even the much younger Diana recognised that. Whenever the physical relationship resumed is neither here nor there, it only cemented the other.

For me, I don't think there is any doubt who Charles' soulmate has always been. Jury still out on Camilla!
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:57 PM
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Penny Junor speaks on a morning show about her book.

Charles and Diana love triangle branded 'posh Jeremy Kyle' | Daily Mail Online
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:20 PM
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Frankly it was so sugary I had to give up reading it, and it almost put me off Camilla.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:48 PM
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Osipi, where do you find books for 4$ and no shipping charges? I am another cheapskate when it comes to books and would love to know your source. Thank you
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:18 PM
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My favorite supplier for my passion of buying books is abebooks.com

They're used books and old library books and donated books but they come at the right price for me.

What you get may surprise you. I got a first edition, signed copy of one of the Outlander series in hardback and paid less than $4 for it.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:34 PM
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Osipi, where do you find books for 4$ and no shipping charges? I am another cheapskate when it comes to books and would love to know your source. Thank you

I am a bookaholic- always have several books going.

But they cost nothing at all! Because my source is the local library.

(If my local doesn't have something I want, I just ILL it. Nothing easier!)
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It ends up being cheaper for me to buy and have the book in my mailbox than to drive down off the mountain into town to the small library there considering the amount of gas used. I also reread my books quite a bit and like knowing they're near at hand.

I will be getting the new Camilla biography but not until the list price goes down a bit. Not in any hurry to get it but I will eventually get it and read it.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:15 AM
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Frankly it was so sugary I had to give up reading it, and it almost put me off Camilla.
Ditto - I got it from the library and I couldn't finish it as Junors tone and style was making me queasy. Also, there were no notes or references for me to check some of her assertions against. Felt like a rehash of the Dimbleby bio of Charles but without the sources to back it up. It did have some good pictures though so not all bad.

Giles Brandreth's book is still the better volume for the time being IMO.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:36 AM
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Ditto - I got it from the library and I couldn't finish it as Junors tone and style was making me queasy. Also, there were no notes or references for me to check some of her assertions against. Felt like a rehash of the Dimbleby bio of Charles but without the sources to back it up. It did have some good pictures though so not all bad.

Giles Brandreth's book is still the better volume for the time being IMO.
I have that book here. Somewhere. I should dig it out an reread it again. I do like how Brandreth writes. I liked his Philip and Elizabeth: Portrait of a Marriage.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:39 AM
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It ends up being cheaper for me to buy and have the book in my mailbox than to drive down off the mountain into town to the small library there considering the amount of gas used. I also reread my books quite a bit and like knowing they're near at hand.
I do purchase books I want to reread.
But these are few, only the ones I can't bear to part with!

(If I kept them all they'd fill my entire house and leave no room for anything else.)

Btw, if you like to read, Osipi, there is a book I think you'd love (one of those I bought when I found I didn't want to give it back).
It is The Goblin Emperor, by Katherine Addison.
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:37 PM
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I'm not a fan of Penny Junor's work, with one exception. I thought her book about Prince Harry was stellar. Outstanding. Very thorough, very interesting read. Just putting that out there.
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The Untold Story!!!!! Brilliant choice, bravo, Penny, what a triumph of originality with that title!

I'm sorry for my vicious sarcasm. Not I'm not!

I remember very well in the few years following Morton's Diana book, Ross Benson came out with "Charles: The Untold Story." To be fair, there were some previously "untold" things in there, as Ross had been at Gordonstoun..... roughly overlapping his time with Charles.... I don't think they were exactly in the same year.

I wonder what's "untold" about Camilla. Quotes to Penny from Mon Fertile teachers and mates? The time Camilla singlehandedly carried five cows from a burning barn?
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:11 PM
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I'm not overly fond of Penny Junor's works and have read some of them but I cannot say I'm overly impressed by her works. She's kind of low on my totem pole of royal biographers. Come to think of it, I even forgot that she had written this one or is it two? Seems she released a book call "The Duchess" in 2017 and has released "The Duchess: Camilla Parker Bowles and the Love Affair That Rocked the Crown" in March of 2018.

The first one didn't do too hot? Hmmmmmmm....
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I'm not overly fond of Penny Junor's works and have read some of them but I cannot say I'm overly impressed by her works. She's kind of low on my totem pole of royal biographers. Come to think of it, I even forgot that she had written this one or is it two? Seems she released a book call "The Duchess" in 2017 and has released "The Duchess: Camilla Parker Bowles and the Love Affair That Rocked the Crown" in March of 2018.



The first one didn't do too hot? Hmmmmmmm....


Probably not. But considering a Penny Junor type feels compelled to do a Charles bio every ten years, it’s hardly surprising she and the like will try to recycle this stuff on Camilla in the same fashion.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:50 PM
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I think if there's a biography of Camilla that I would put on my must have list it would be done by Sally Bedell Smith. She does an excellent job, IMO, with Prince Charles: The Passions and Paradoxes of an Improbable Life which does cover Camilla. I also was impressed by her biography of the Queen and her book on Diana called "Diana In Search Of Herself: Portrait Of A Troubled Princess"
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