"Folket" by Tor Bomann-Larsen - doubts Olav was Haakon's son...

norwegianne · #1 10-14-2004, 05:25 AM

The newest debate in the Norwegian papers is the second book in a series about King Haakon and Queen Maud. The author has managed to find evidence that he thinks proves that Olav wasn't Haakon's son.

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2004/10/14/411285.html
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=249847
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=249896

(And the picture that would support the author's claim: http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=249906) Another historian interviewed was impressed, because the rumours going around had been that Queen Maud was not his mother, not that King Haakon wasn't his father.

King Harald's reaction to it:
"Any author is within his or her full right to represent their understand of history," says H. M. The King. "That also goes for Tor Bomann Larsen's biography about King Haakon and Queen Maud."

The King have no information that would indicate that King Olav wouldn't have been the son of King Haakon.

"Prince Carl was after a referendum in 1905 elected by the Storting to be Norway's king, as King Haakon VII, with his wife Maud as queen, and their son Olav as Crown Prince"

Should this case be true it means that history books will have to be rewritten.

norwegianne · #2 10-14-2004, 05:27 AM

Another historian doesn't think this will affect Olav's reputation.
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=249899
"He acted like a king, was looked upon like a king, and will be loved, nevertheless." She says.

norwegianne · #3 10-14-2004, 05:32 AM

Here's an article on his sources. (All these articles are in Norwegian, but I assume some of them will be translated to English sooner or later.)

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2004/10/14/411286.html

norwegianne · #4 10-14-2004, 05:41 AM

I suppose I should clarify: If the above happen to be true, Haakon would still be related to Olav, as Haakon and Maud were cousins. (Queen Alexandra of Great Britain was the sister of Haakon/Carl's father.)

If it's true, then Olav and Märtha were not first cousins, but second cousins.

norwegianne · #5 10-14-2004, 06:10 AM

VG has an English article out now: http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=249919

The Watcher · #6 10-14-2004, 07:06 AM

Sir Francis Guy Laking has indeed a strong resemblance to king Olav

It would not suprise me when the story is true. But King Haakon and the present King Harald are still family when the story is true? If they are still family, there is no problem, family is family. :)

norwegianne · #7 10-14-2004, 07:31 AM

They are family. Both through queen Maud, and through Crown Princess Märtha (who was King Haakon's niece.)

**Mandy** · #8 10-14-2004, 01:43 PM

I wonder if they were preparing for this eventual debate? Olav was legally designated Norway's Crown Prince...

From the English Aftenposten. http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...icle890633.ece

Haakon, Maud and Olav V:

King Haakon, originally Danish Prince Carl, married his cousin Princess Maud in 1896.
*Maud was the daughter of Britain's King Edward VII and a granddaughter of Queen Victoria. If Bomann's theory proves correct, the present royal house of Norway is British on both sides.

*Olav, originally Prince Alexander, was born in England in 1903, roughly nine months after his mother had a secret hospital stay in the care of doctor Sir Francis Laking. Controversy has dogged the birth of Olav since King Haakon was alone on a two-month tour of Denmark around the time of conception.

*In 1905 Norway formally declared independence from Sweden and elected Prince Carl as first modern king. Carl insisted that his monarchy receive public approval in a referendum and only then ascended the throne as King Haakon.

*Olav was legally designated Norway's crown prince when Haakon and Maud took the throne, making the current monarchy legitimate, even if it is later established that the bloodline from Haakon has been broken.

karla64 · #9 03-24-2005, 12:41 PM

I don't know if it's true.... i have no proof...

A historian at the university of oslo is throwing cold water on another author's theory that Norway's KIng Haakon was not biological father of his son Olav.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1001331.ece

Royal Fan · #10 10-24-2005, 10:42 PM

I Dont belive it just a silly little rumor

Jackswife · #11 10-25-2005, 07:53 PM

Even *IF* this is true (and I highly doubt that it is), what possible difference can it make? Haakon obviously loved and cared for Olav so why does anyone feel the need to air out these unfounded speculations?

It infuriates me.

auntie · #12 10-25-2005, 10:54 PM

Well, after reading the articles and seeing the pictures, ou can't deny that Olav, Harald and Haakon Magnus are related...

tiaraprin · #13 10-26-2005, 01:59 AM

This is truly shocking!! A granddaughter of Queen Victoria bearing a child not of her husband and passing the child off as an heir?? Never!! What slanderous dirt!

rani · #14 10-26-2005, 02:12 AM

The photographs of King Olav show a strong resemblance to his Grandfather,King Edward VII.

galuhcandrakirana · #15 10-26-2005, 03:23 AM

The most interesting part for me is to know what the Norwegian people will do with their royalty if they find that the rumour to be the truth. Do you think the Royal family will allow them doing DNA test?.

Sorry for little out of topic but the article above remind me other article about Duke of Edinburg has questioned Harry's real father because Harry resembleace much with Diana's ex boyfriend capt. Jammes Hewwit (???), if they find it as true, in my opinion, it still fortunate for royal family that Harry is not a future CP.

I think, royal can do some mistake like other. A long time ago in France had many rumour about "not every queen's children was King's biological children":o.

tiaraprin · #16 10-26-2005, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by galuhcandrakirana

The most interesting part for me is to know what the Norwegian people will do with their royalty if they find that the rumour to be the truth. Do you think the Royal family will allow them doing DNA test?.

Sorry for little out of topic but the article above remind me other article about Duke of Edinburg has questioned Harry's real father because Harry resembleace much with Diana's ex boyfriend capt. Jammes Hewwit (???), if they find it as true, in my opinion, it still fortunate for royal family that Harry is not a future CP.

I think, royal can do some mistake like other. A long time ago in France had many rumour about "not every queen's children was King's biological children":o.

Harry resembles Lady Sarah McCorquodale's son. Charles is Harry's father and I wish people would stop spreading this vicious lie. Diana did not know James Hewitt until 1986.

galuhcandrakirana · #17 10-26-2005, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tiaraprin

Harry resembles Lady Sarah McCorquodale's son. Charles is Harry's father and I wish people would stop spreading this vicious lie. Diana did not know James Hewitt until 1986.

I didn't mean to bring another discussion in this thread, just mention the simmilarity issue beetween the two royal news (unfortunately I don't save the news source). I don't pay much attention about this Harry rumour. If somebody interest to discuss about Harry rumour may be BRF forum has thread about it or we will get a warning from moderator

norwegianne · #18 10-26-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by galuhcandrakirana

The most interesting part for me is to know what the Norwegian people will do with their royalty if they find that the rumour to be the truth. Do you think the Royal family will allow them doing DNA test?.

It's not a big deal, to anybody but historians, I think. The fact of the matter is that Olav's bloodline, whatever they may or may not be, doesn't matter. Had he been born after his father's ascension to the throne, it might have been quite another deal alltogether, but one of the select items that made Carl of Denmark a preferred candidate to the Norwegian throne, (his father-in-law/uncle aside) was the fact that he came with an heir. So, by electing Carl, they also elected little Alexander.