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Old 07-05-2011, 01:39 PM
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I picked up "The Royals" last summer at a thrift shop - and it got me hooked on royalty. I knew absolutely nothing about the BRF except for bits about the Queen, Charles, Diana, William and Harry. When I read it the first time, still confused about titles, I stumbled over the fact there was a Prince of Wales, a Duke of York, and then a Queen Elizabeth running around in the 1930's. Each time I read the book, I learn more and see more careless mistakes. A very obvious one is that one of the pictures is labeled as Queen Victoria with her "son" The Duke of York (the future George V)!

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I thought it was more a fictional account to make for some good tabloid headlines which is the theme for all her books.
That's exactly what I think - "The Royals" is basically one long, detailed tabloid (subject: the British Royal Family).
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:22 AM
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Royal Quiz Books

Two new Quiz Books available via Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.com as e-books ....

The Royal Family Quiz book features questions on Queen Victoria (and her children and grandchildren), Edward VII (and his children and grandchildren), George V (and his children and grandchildren) plus the current Royal Family.

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Old 08-26-2011, 11:22 PM
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If the book is not true,than Kitty does have a lot of guts saying that Margaret,Philip,and Queen Mother are "racist" and a lot of other stuff she claims they have done.

No wonder it's banned from Britain!
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:11 AM
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No wonder it's banned from Britain!
I wasn't aware it was banned - is this still the case? I find it hard to believe the book has been censored given the liberal attitude to publishing unauthorised material here in the UK
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:00 PM
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It said so on the back of the book.
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Old 08-28-2011, 05:47 PM
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It said so on the back of the book.
Kitty Kelley writes sensational books; blurb's on the back cover conform to this style, and truth be damned.
The book is NOT banned in Britain; it has never been published there due to the libel laws and neither Ms Kelly nor the publisher were prepared to place themselves at legal risk.

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Old 08-28-2011, 06:34 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up!
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I heard that she had written that Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret were conceived via IVF; and IVF didn't exist in that times.
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I heard that she had written that Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret were conceived via IVF; and IVF didn't exist in that times.
Was it that or artificial insemination? Not the same thing ... in any event completely tasteless. Whose business is it anyway?
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:01 PM
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Kitty Kelly has been sued and denounced numerous times with her books on Frank Sinatra, Oprah Winfrey and Jackie O. "The Royals" should be no exception.

I remember after Diana died, Kitty would tear up during interviews by the mere mention of her. That came across as phony to me.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:29 PM
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Was it that or artificial insemination? Not the same thing ... in any event completely tasteless. Whose business is it anyway?
It was artificial insemination.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:53 PM
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Im re-reading her book now. Pretty interesting, although the British Press seem to not understand the freedom of the press theory, nor do I know if it is practiced in England. They give in far to easily to the morons around the BRF and their stupid demands. "Thou shalt not mention the royal bosom".
As for trashing the marriage of Philip and Elizabeth I don't think she did that; I actually found myself sympathizing with Philip and thinking his rumored affairs were ok.
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I suspect that quite a bit of it is true; it is true that George V sacrificed his family for the sake of his image/PR and it is true that Fergie was running around with her hands wide open, grasping at all she could get. There was a lot going on with the RF that hasn't been really paid attention to and I don't see how it would be banned if it were just rubbish.
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I don't think that he was primarily concerned with his own image. There were communists in England as well, and there was a real concern that sheltering the Tsar and his family (the Tsar was considered a tyrant) would cause revolution in England and the suffering of many people.

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I suspect that quite a bit of it is true; it is true that George V sacrificed his family for the sake of his image/PR
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I don't think George was worried about "many people", but he was worried about his position and the volitile times. It is just a statement, I happened to like him, but that doesn't excuse his lack of courage to save others.
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True, but being worried about his position doesn't mean being worried for his own sake. If the Throne was toppled, it would be by revolution and not by peaceful means. In a revolution, the only people who don't suffer are the ones who get out of the country fast.


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I don't think George was worried about "many people", but he was worried about his position and the volitile times. It is just a statement, I happened to like him, but that doesn't excuse his lack of courage to save others.
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True, but being worried about his position doesn't mean being worried for his own sake. If the Throne was toppled, it would be by revolution and not by peaceful means. In a revolution, the only people who don't suffer are the ones who get out of the country fast.
Trust me he was worried for his sake and the sake of his family, which is fine. Princess Alice of Greece, Prince Phillip's mother was that kind of person. Most of them are not.
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He sailed his cousin (supposedly favorite cousin) down the river for his own paranoia; and then when Nicholas and his children were murdered he and those around him tried to cover up that he was the reason that Nicholas wasn't allowed in England or anywhere in the British Empire. As someone mentioned, the Romanovs did not have to have to come directly to London; they could have sent them anywhere else in the Empire.
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The British Empire was large enough to send the Romanovs anywhere and there is no way that the BRF would have been overthrown over something like this. All that had ot be done was a discreet rescue and they could have been sent to live in Balmoral or somewhere hidden away in Scotland. It would have been bad publicity, but no real serious repercussions. They (Romanovs) need not have set foot on British soil, but sent to the otehr places like the African colonies, or somewhere far flung all the more. There were also the aristocratic families that could have taken them in or perhaps a hut on Mustique. It would have been a small place to start, but go figure, they were destroyed all because of an anti-German phase where George V got sucked into.

Seven family members butchered all because of fear of bad PR. Then of course, the other members of the Romanov family who ended up killed, starting with Michael. Then Ella, Constantine, Dmitry, all of them rounded up like cattle and killed. The Empress Dowager was saved, but I wonder if she would have escaped if in fact nothing had been done.
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I've seen paranoia like George's behavior since the 1918 murders, in the US we had the Japanese internment camps, McCarthyism, and then George Bush's "Iraq is building nuclear weapons to attack the west" mantra of...2003 was it?
Monarchies all around him were being toppled, but the two I can recall now were autocracies, not constitutional monarchies like he was a part of. Like you said he was just on his anti-German kick and Alexandra was German and it seems nobody liked her. I recall reading that one reason he didn't want to aid Nicholas was because of Alexandra and her supposed German sympathies which as we all know now were non-existent.
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