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Old 04-07-2005, 07:36 AM
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I've been looking at the book Born to Rule by Julia Girlardi (sp?). It seems to be about five of Queen Victoria's granddaughters. I think it looks interesting, judging from Amazon.com's summary.

Has anyone read it? Was it good? Informative? Or?
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:31 AM
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I saw it at the book store and read the jacket and flipped through the book. I thought it looked really good.
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I recently bought the book thinking that it would have info. on Queen Maud. Its a good book, well researched and provides for a fast paced read. The only disappointment was the lack of info. on Queen Maud (the very reason I bought it) and Queen Sophie of Greece. Since, these two didn't live as "exciting" and "spicy" life as Missy, Alix and Ena, they end up being shortchanged. I would really have liked some more exciting info. on Maud and Sophie, besides that the book was well worth the price paid for it.
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I just it out of the library last week I agree not enought information on Qs Maud and Sofie but it's still a good book for people who are not familiar with the other queens & it's in english and like me I did't have to buy it to read. I didn't know Queen Ena had lost a still born baby Fernando, or had another late miscarriage despite King Alphonoso cheating on her.

Another good book is "Grandmamma of Europe" by Theo Aronson,it mentions Queen Victora trying to get Sofie to not buy dept store bulk furniture for Tatoi
but Sofie din't listen.
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did five of Queen Victoria's granddaughters become Queens as well? ^__^
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I was attracted by the cover of the book at the very first sight.

Who is on the cover of the book? My guess, Marie of Edinburgh or Alix of Hesse due to the style of the dress.
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I was attracted by the cover of the book at the very first sight.

Who is on the cover of the book? My guess, Marie of Edinburgh or Alix of Hesse due to the style of the dress.
I don't think its either of them or any of the other princesses. I have the book and on the back flap its gives the jacket painting detail. The title of the painting is "Jeune Femme En Tenue De Soiree Avec Hortensias" painted by Jules Louis Machard in 1896.

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Old 05-11-2005, 09:46 AM
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Thanks for the info!
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I'm reading it right now. It's not the most informative book (e.g. they didn't really mention how Edward VII made Ena a HRH - she was born only a HSH - right before her marriage to Alfonso so it would not seem like an unequal marriage. Does a lot of comparing between the women, which sometimes gets repetitive cz the author talks about one point over and over again. But it's still a good overall read. Maybe not worth the hardcover price and wait for the paperback. Or do what I did, ask the library to get it.
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I think " Born to rule" is a very interesting and well researched Book. It shows different views and compares the Life of these 5 Women from their english Backround and the way they coped with their new Countries. It shows the different Charackters very well and is one of my Favorites
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I received my issue of Majesty (Vol. 26 No.10- Has Fergie & Eugenie on cover) yesterday & there was an "exclusive extract" from the book in this issue (pg. 21). You can also buy the book through the magazine for 50.00 (USD), 23.00 (UK & Europe), 66.00 (CAN), & 27.00 (rest of the world). You can also buy it at www.bn.com for $23.96 (USD).

Just thought I'd pass along this info.
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Well I broke down & bought this book. I bought it through www.amazon.com (it was cheaper at $19.77 USD) & I also bought another book titled: Princesses: The Six Daughters of George III (when you buy them together you save some money).
Has anyone else read Born To Rule?
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I got it on Amazon.co.uk's January sale - and I have to say... I was a bit disappointed. It really felt like Maud and Sophie were just included so that there'd be five portraits instead of three... It seemed like the author couldn't wait to get back to the more exciting Marie or tragic Alix.

It was rather entertainingly written, but at times I expected much more deeper story.
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did five of Queen Victoria's granddaughters become Queens as well? ^__^
Maud (daughter of Edward VII) + Haakon VII King of Norway
Marie (daughter of Duke of Edinburgh) + Ferdinand I King of Romania
Victoria Eugenia (daughter of Princess Beatrice) + Alfonso XII King of Spain
Alix (daughter of Princess Alice) + Nicholas II Tsar of Russia

Margaret (daughter of Duke of Connaught) + Crown Prince Gustaf Adolf of Sweden. He become the king 30. years after Margaret's dead.
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One thing that bugs me about this book is that the author quotes from other people so much. I enjoyed learning more about Queen Ena but still, I wish that she had not used so many of the same books that I have read!

When you read about these poor girls, you realize that their life was NOT a piece of cake. In fact, it was pretty awful, most of the time!

I have ordered Theo Aronson's book about the Danish King that was the Father-in-Law of Europe. I think that will give me a lot of information about the Scandinavian countries. However, Aronson is a fantastic author if you want to read more about the granddaughters, etc. I will say look for his books instead!
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I too gave in an bought the book when I came across it in a bookstore while on holiday. It was certainly a fascinating study in contrasts in various arranged dynastic marriages among some very strong willed women. I wish there had been more on Queen Maud,but I also wish something had been written about the granddaughter who would have been a queen,Margaret of Connaught.
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I liked this book but I have to agree that there was little info on Queen Maud of Norway. Her life was pretty simple compared to the rest especially having only one child. There were a lot of names to keep up with in the beginning but it was pretty good read overall. I think the answer would be to find books on specific royal houses instead of a compilation.
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I have ordered Theo Aronson's book about the Danish King that was the Father-in-Law of Europe. I think that will give me a lot of information about the Scandinavian countries. However, Aronson is a fantastic author if you want to read more about the granddaughters, etc. I will say look for his books instead!
It's great you were able to get hold of Theo Aronson's book - did you order it second hand? I have looked for it before but with no luck. His book on Queen Victoria's descendants is also a good for extra biographical information on the royal women from Born to Rule. :)
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I have "Born to Rule". It's pretty informative if you ask me. It goes into detail about Ena's wedding. Alix's courtship with Nicholas II as well as Maud's and Marie's. I don't know about Sophie though...I haven't read that far yet. There's two sets of photos in it. They're ones I haven't seen before.

Maud Charlotte Mary Victoria, b. 26 Nov. 1869. Daughter of Edward VII & Queen Alexandra. Married Prince Carl of Denmark, who became King Haakon VII of Norway, on 22 July 1896.

Issue:

1. Alexander Edward Christian Frederik, Prince of Denmark, became Prince Olav in 1905 upon his father's coronation as Norway's first king.

Sophia Doretha Ulrike Alice, b. 14 June 1870. Daughter of Emperor Friederich III of Prussia & Empress Victoria, nee Princess Royal of Britain. Married King Constantine I (Tino) of the Hellenes (then crown prince) on 27 Oct. 1889.

Issue:

1. George II, b. 1890. Became King of the Hellenes in 1922 (and again in 1935). Married Princess Elisabetta of Romania. Had Children?
2. Alexander I, b. 1893. Became King of the Hellenes in 1917. Married Aspasia Manos, had one child, Princess Aleksandra. Died from monkey bite in 1920.
3. Helen, b. 1896. Became Crown Princess of Romania when she married Crown Prince Carol, who later became King Carol II, had one child, Prince Mihai, became King Mihai I of Romania. Carol and Helen divorced 1928.
4. Paul I, b. 1901. Became King of the Hellenes in 1947. Married Frederike of Hannover. Had Children?
5. Irene, b. 1904. Married Aimone, Duke of Aosta.
6. Katherine, b. 1913. Married Richard Brandram. Still living.

Alix Victoria Helena Louise Beatrice, b. 6 June 1872. Daughter of Princess Alice of Great Britain and Ireland & Grand Duke Ludwig IV of Hesse-Darmstadt. Married Tsar Nicholas II of Russia on Nov. 24, 1894.

Issue:

1. Olga Nikolaievna, b. 15 Nov. 1895
2. Tatiana Nikolaievna, b. 11 June 1897
3. Maria Nikolaievna, b. 14 June 1899
4. Anastasia Nikolaievna, b. 18 June 1901
5. Aleksei Nikolaievich, b. 12 Aug. 1904

Marie Alexandra Victoria, b. 29 Oct. 1875. Daughter of Prince Alfred, Duke of Edinburgh & Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna of Russia. Married Crown Prince Ferdinand ("Nando") of Romania on 10 Jan. 1892.

Issue:

1. Carol II, b. 1893. Became King of Romania in 1930. Married Joana Lambrino, annulled in 1919. Married again, Princess Helen of Greece, had one son, Mihai.
2. Elisabetta, b. 1894. Married King George II of the Hellenes.
3. Marie ("Mignon"), b. 1900. Married King Aleksandar I of Yugoslavia. Had Children.
4. Nicolae, b. 1903. Married Joana Doletti. And then Married Thereza de Mello.
5. Ileana, b. 1909. (Thought to be the daughter of Grand Duke Boris of Russia) Married Archduke Anton of Austria-Tuscany. Divorced 1954. Married 2nd time, Stephen Issarescu, divorced 1965. Became Mother Alexandra of the Monastarey of Transfiguration in PA.
6. Mircea, b. 1913. Died 1916.

Victoria Eugenie Julia Ena, b. 24 Oct. 1887. Daughter of Princess Beatrice of Great Britain and Ireland & Prince Henry of Battenburg. Married King Alfonso of Spain on 31 May 1906.

Issue:
1. Alfonso Pio Cristino Eduardo Francisco Guillermo Carlos Enrique Eugenio Fernando Antonio Venancio, Prince of Austrias, b. 1907. Married twice. Children?
2. Jaime Luitpold Isabelino Enrique Alejandro Alberto Alfonso Victor Acacio Pedro Pablo Maria, Duke of Segoia, b. 1908. Married Emanuela de Dampierre. Children?
3. Beatriz Isabel Federica Alfonsa Eugenia Cristina Maria Teresa Bienvenida Ladisláa, b. 1909. Married Alessandro Torlonia, Prince of Civitella-Cesi Children?
4. Maria Cristina Teresa Alejandra Guadalupe Maria de la Concepción Ildefonsa Vitoria Eugénia, b. 1911. Married Enrico Cinzano, Count Marone. Children?
5. Juan Carlos Teresa Silvestre Alfonso, Conde de Barcelona, b. 1913. Married Maria de las Mercedes of Bourbon and the two Sicilies. Children?
6. Gonzalo Manuel Maria Bernardo Narciso Alfonso Mauricio, b. 1914. Married? Children?
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