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Old 12-06-2007, 07:21 PM
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I have read an amazing article about Frederick and Mary's marriage in Vanidades magazine
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...The new book, titled '1015 Copenhagen K', written by journalist Trine Villeman, a former correspondent for the Danish royal house, establishes several facts that no one imagined, such as the Danish royal house is about to 'disintegrate' because queen Margaret II is tired of being queen, and each day it becomes more indifferent to the affairs of state,and that the crisis is compounded because the crown prince Frederick 'does not want to be king, which also has no ability to do so, and his marriage to Australian Mary Donaldson is a real disaster'.

What is most shocking is that the journalist argues that the blame for everything that happens to the crown prince is his mother, the Queen, which should have allowed to marry his Danish girlfriend, the former lingerie model Katja Storkholm.

The thesis Villeman -a highly respected woman, with much prestige in Denmark and well informed about what is happening in the Royal Household, which makes reliable information- is what has been called "a brutal analysis of reality"and its many details about 'nightmare marriage of Frederick and Mary' are outrageous,besides insisting that the Queen is only devoted to painting, designing costumes for theater, smoking and withdraw into their palaces, regardless of country.

And although it would be logical to resign and give the throne to her eldest son, 'the Danish monarchy needs a new leader and that, of course, is not Frederick'

Prince has always had a reputation for playboy, and have a weak character, as well as being little worker (she calls him 'vague and without motivation') and immature.

And the book said that his real dream in life was to marry his ex-girlfriend, model Katja Storkholm, but in Denmark apparently exists' an unwritten tradition that a future king or queen should look for his companion outside the borders Danish 'Now we know that Katja was very positive for the Prince, since not only quite understand, but what motivated and helped prepare and write their speeches, and gave him much encouragement when he did not wish to take real responsibilities.But in 1995, Queen Margaret finally objected to courtship that lasted several years, and told his son to be forgotten the girl. Prince was destroyed when he had to break with Katja.

And what about his marriage 'fairy tale' with plebeian Mary Donaldson?
their marriage is happy with the Danes, who see in that marriage a true love story, according to the journalist 'is doomed to failure' because Frederick really is not, nor ever has been, in love with Mary.
Frederick always liked voluptuous,very funny and fun-loving girls.
Mary is not so, but first -according to the journalis- 'Frederick loved the solidity of his girlfriend and seemed sympathetic, natural and loving sports, like him'
According to the book, Frederick is a little immature -remember those incontenibles cries who had his wedding day - has passion for his collection of 16 cars and also enjoys much of the company of their young children, but is not highly regarded Mary Donaldson, who suffers because her husband still has a very close relationship with some of his beautiful ex-girlfriends, including Katja.
It is said that Mary 'jealousy devour', which causes a lot of frustration there, and spent the day going shopping, and spending with credit cards that gives the Royal House...
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:23 PM
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And it's just rehashing over the grubby journalism of the past couple of months anyhow.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:58 PM
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I agree 100% who has a clue what goes on behind closed doors. They seem to be a very happy, loving couple.
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The thesis Villeman -a highly respected woman, with much prestige in Denmark and well informed about what is happening in the Royal Household, which makes reliable information.
I am sure that Villeman and perhaps her mother would agree to that - but apart from them it may be hard to find others who would concur
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:46 AM
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I agree that it's just grubby journalism. The gossip magazines become very annoying too when they feature photos of the Prince and Princess looking unhappy or bored when there are plenty of photos showing them smiling and happy. It seems like an extremely strong marriage to me!

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Old 12-30-2007, 02:29 AM
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After having seen this video, I´m pretty sure, that it´s not all about money and sold books.
Trine got all absorbed with her matter and seems quite upset and not like a "cool calculator". She seems to believe, what she preaches...and it doesn´t seem, as if all would be just about getting a financial cushion.
She seems a little crazy though...but maybe I´m just frightened by a person, who gets in public so upset about such a banal topic as the (private) sides of a Monarchy. One feels reminded of oneself
Lovely, but ... might you have a ENGLISH translation, perhaps, please?

Will the book come out in English, do you know?


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Old 12-30-2007, 04:51 AM
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Villemann gave an interview to swedish Aftonbladet, it was published on the 24th of December:
Danska drottningen – en dålig mamma?/Aftonbladet
She repeats the same things that are at her book:
- Queen Margrethe wasn´t a good mother. She never played with her children when they were little.
- Crown prince Frederik has never wanted to be a King some day, and he hasn´t taken his duties seriously. When he got married, people thought that he would change, but he hasn´t. Frederik is popular and has a lot of friends. But he just likes to sail and party. It´s widely known at the Royal House that he is lazy.
- It´s a big difference between him and Crown princess Victoria. Even though Victoria had some difficulties (anorexia) when she was a teenager, she has grown to her role perfectly. She has self-confidence, radiance and it seems that she enjoys her work. She is focused and interested and she will be a fantastic queen one day. Crown prince Frederik can´t even make a good speech! And Villemann doesn´t think that he will have the strength to become a good king.
- Mary is too perfect, she tries so hard to fit in to the Royal machinery. What has happened to that spontaneous, lovely girl, who got married with Frederik? It´s Diana-disease all over again. Now Mary is a thin and cold crown princess with her design clothes and high-heel shoes. Villemann knows that they are in love, but Mary didn´t know e.g. that Frederik was secretly engaged to Katja Storkholm. But they couldn´t get married, because the Royal House of Denmark has this rule, that the princes and princesses couldn´t marry a danish citizen.
- Prince Joachim isn´t ready to marry again, he wasn´t ready to marry Alexandra either. And it became a catastrophe. They were like a cat and a dog from the beginning. But prince Joachim is pressured and he does like it´s waited from him.
- Villemann sees the future of the monarchy of Denmark very dark, there must be some changes. It´s different in Sweden, the princesses are modern. When Frederik gets 40 years old, he must make a decision. If he continues like this, the monarchy will be dead.
- Villemann assures that her resources are "waterproof".
- Villemann knows that Mary is very disappointed about her book.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:29 AM
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I wouldn't count on seeing this type of book
If a creditable book on a royal couple's relationship was to be written, in order to be creditable it would have to be written by the couple itself or close family and/or friends who appeared as named sources. I don't see this happening
Do you honestly think that someone would write a 100% true book about their marriage? All the royal autobiographies were solely based on that persons opinion, or on the way they wanted people to perceive them. eg: Charles and Diana, look how different they saw the same thing in their lives.
Come on, will CP Mary ever write about her insecurities? Not her definitly... The one thing which I agree with what the journalist writes is that the CPss trys too hard, too hard to be perfect and show everyone her perfect life.
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:20 AM
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What an ...odd comment!
Everbody knows by now what that author has to say, she was on Australian TV.
Amber wasn't asked to do a review on the book, it's linguistic and literaric quality, therefore she doesn't have to know Danish. She was asked whether it's true what the book claims (marriage problems) and she said it's rubbish. Unlike the author she knows the couple personally, so why is her comment odd? Perhaps, it wasn't wise of Amber to say anything because now - after the first uproar and interest ceased - EB can use this to go on with their "promotion through scandal" strategy (as someone sad "bad" PR sells better than "good" PR and they obviously want to sell their book in Australia). But I do think her comment was very understandable and not odd at all.

It's quite strange that you can judge Amber so easily, did you see the show? did you hear what she actually said? But the book has to be read before judging, a book btw whose author is totally basing her opinions on what others told her.

I saw the author and her little promotion tricks, I know the book is published by Ekstrabladet, I really don't have to read the book to know it's trash. And IMO this argument isn't weak at all.
I remember in the early 90's an interview with the late Earl spencer, who said "Charles and Diana will never get divorced, they love each other too much" Ha! Do you honestly think that the CPrincely couples friends will ever say the truth, or do you think they know the truth? Does Mary know the truth herself is she honest with her feelings? Has anyone considered the fact that the Danish Cprincely couple are circulating more doubt about their relationship and talk about their marriage than any other royal couple since Diana and charles? I have no opinion regarding the couple and just enjoy to read and hear any opinion.
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Has anyone considered the fact that the Danish Cprincely couple are circulating more doubt about their relationship and talk about their marriage than any other royal couple since Diana and charles?
This is the part what I found odd about this couple. From the very beginning when their romance was "discovered" by the press with the kiss Fred gave to Mary with full knowledge of the cameras around them, this couple seems to try harder than any other royal couples in memory to "sell" their relationship as "The True Love", "The Fairy Tale Couple", "The Happiest Family" etc.

Call me cynic, but I have been wondering what made them to try so hard to "sell" their relationship as "perfect". Because "The Fairy Tale" can make people overlook the fact that Fred's light work schedule or Mary's mediocor background? I wonder.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:30 PM
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Villemann gave an interview to swedish Aftonbladet, it was published on the 24th of December:
Danska drottningen – en dålig mamma?/Aftonbladet
She repeats the same things that are at her book:
- Queen Margrethe wasn´t a good mother. She never played with her children when they were little.
- Crown prince Frederik has never wanted to be a King some day, and he hasn´t taken his duties seriously. When he got married, people thought that he would change, but he hasn´t. Frederik is popular and has a lot of friends. But he just likes to sail and party. It´s widely known at the Royal House that he is lazy.
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EVERYONE, thank you so very much for translating the Danish (and other interviews done with Scandanavian publications) into English for the English speakers here. I truly appreciate your effourts on our behalf.

If this book ever came out in English, I / Abbie would read it, I have to confess.

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I have read an amazing article about Frederick and Mary's marriage in Vanidades magazine
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I also bought Vanidades, as a tool to teach myself Spanish.

Thank goodness for Posters like you, who DO speak it natively, or else I would still be in the dark.

I can make out the gist of any Article in the magazine, but it's the slang and idioms that always trip me up,

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But back to the Danish royals. Margrethe’s role as a mother is heavily touched upon, and given the many other discussions on the subject, I’m inclined to think that at least some of Villemann’s assertations might be correct – i.e. Margrethe herself mentioning that she is not much for smaller children, and she prefers to be able to talk to them, as well as Henrik and Frederik’s various interviews on the topic of the childhood of the princes. I think Henrik’s role as a father falls somewhere between Villemann’s pictures, and what he, himself has mentioned earlier.

Villemann mentions that Joachim seems to have weathered the way they were raised in a different way than Frederik – and while she does comment that the lack of parental presence in their lives can be worked into their current lives. She mentions Frederik’s perceived laziness and reluctantness to be king, to use her words, but also points out that Joachim received the same upbringing, and he works royal duties in addition to running his own farm.
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Thank you very much for taking the time and energy to give us your thoughts, Norwegianne, and for translating what you consider to be key parts of this controversial book, into English, for the benefit of many here.
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I'm waiting for Mary OR Frederik to write a book proclaiming their misery, and then everything being said here will be fair game.

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She's wrong, he's engaged to be married next spring!

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the most harmonious one at that.

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Old 12-30-2007, 07:28 PM
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This is the part what I found odd about this couple. From the very beginning when their romance was "discovered" by the press with the kiss Fred gave to Mary with full knowledge of the cameras around them, this couple seems to try harder than any other royal couples in memory to "sell" their relationship as "The True Love", "The Fairy Tale Couple", "The Happiest Family" etc.

Call me cynic, but I have been wondering what made them to try so hard to "sell" their relationship as "perfect". Because "The Fairy Tale" can make people overlook the fact that Fred's light work schedule or Mary's mediocor background? I wonder.
It hasn't got anything to do with Fred's light schedule og Mary's mediocor background. Not at all.

They have to sell their relationship because they have never been in love with each other - and never will be. The only reason for their marriage was for Fred's part - the deal he made with the danish industrial organisations, that he should marry someone from Australia in order to increase the danish-australian inter-state trade. For that deal they gave him a "Christiania-bike". And for Mary's part the reason was - that she had alwayes wantet to live in a country where half of the year is greyish and wintertime is hartly without any light hours. She was promished though, that she didn't have to ride the "Christiania-bike".

Futhermore - what Mary didn't know, when she married Fred, was - in reality he is a ten-legged green moster from out of space hiding in a human body, just like the rest of the danes. But we are slowly taken over her body to. So very soon - when this process has finished - all of the photos of the CP Couple, showing their great love, will look genuine and - even she will like to ride the "Christiania-bike".

The probleme for Trine Villemann is - that she to is a monster. But she ended up in a body nobody else wanted. That is why she has got this strong desire to make up storyes about others.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:15 PM
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It hasn't got anything to do with Fred's light schedule og Mary's mediocor background. Not at all.

They have to sell their relationship because they have never been in love with each other - and never will be. The only reason for their marriage was for Fred's part - the deal he made with the danish industrial organisations, that he should marry someone from Australia in order to increase the danish-australian inter-state trade. For that deal they gave him a "Christiania-bike". And for Mary's part the reason was - that she had alwayes wantet to live in a country where half of the year is greyish and wintertime is hartly without any light hours. She was promished though, that she didn't have to ride the "Christiania-bike".

Futhermore - what Mary didn't know, when she married Fred, was - in reality he is a ten-legged green moster from out of space hiding in a human body, just like the rest of the danes. But we are slowly taken over her body to. So very soon - when this process has finished - all of the photos of the CP Couple, showing their great love, will look genuine and - even she will like to ride the "Christiania-bike" to.
- you go Lilla!!

Apart from the hilariously funny reviews of Villermann's book and her references to 'sources' this is the best I have yet read in that connection

I was going to follow the advice from Berlingske Tidende's reviewer and wait in excitement of what Trine Villermann's hair dresser in Athens - with his/her intimate knowledge of the intimate life of the Danish royals - might reveal to us via Trine Villermann the next time - but I think your version is so much better!
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It hasn't got anything to do with Fred's light schedule og Mary's mediocor background. Not at all.

They have to sell their relationship because they have never been in love with each other - and never will be. The only reason for their marriage was for Fred's part - the deal he made with the danish industrial organisations, that he should marry someone from Australia in order to increase the danish-australian inter-state trade. For that deal they gave him a "Christiania-bike". And for Mary's part the reason was - that she had alwayes wantet to live in a country where half of the year is greyish and wintertime is hartly without any light hours. She was promished though, that she didn't have to ride the "Christiania-bike".

Futhermore - what Mary didn't know, when she married Fred, was - in reality he is a ten-legged green moster from out of space hiding in a human body, just like the rest of the danes. But we are slowly taken over her body to. So very soon - when this process has finished - all of the photos of the CP Couple, showing their great love, will look genuine and - even she will like to ride the "Christiania-bike".

The probleme for Trine Villemann is - that she to is a monster. But she ended up in a body nobody else wanted. That is why she has got this strong desire to make up storyes about others.
You got me there in the first paragraph, I thought you were serious, but seriously, why do people find it so hard to find out that their CP marriage isn't perfect?! Trine said in an interview to the Australian Media, that she isn't saying they aren't happy, but that it isn't as it seems, so picture pedrfect!
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Is any marriage Picture perfect? Royal or not! Marrige is alot of work. Sometimes you are happy and sometimes you wonder why there is not a big cliff near by. We will never know the really truth, just like no one knows the truth that goes on behind close doors of all families. I wish them the best and hope that they are happy. That is the only truth that I do know for sure.
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Does anyone know if this book came out in English yet? Will it ever?
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Villemann promises at her english website, that the english version will be coming soon:
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Villemann promises at her english website, that the english version will be coming soon:
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Man, really?

This is excellent news!

Will it be on sale here in the US or for-order here? If so, I am going to order it.

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Well isn't that generous of her.

Though my Danish is still at the beginning level it's too bad this book won't be translated into English anytime soon... I would love to read it.
Oh, but it is being translated into English as we speak, and here is the e-mail I just received from the book's authour that proves it:

"Hi Abbie,
Yes, it will come out in English. Working on it as we speak. We will keep you updated via the website, but in a not too distant future, sometime this spring, my book will be published in English."

So, there we are!
Yay

I am right now e-mailing the Authour back, trying to find out WHICH U.S. retailers are going to stock the book (Barnes and Noble? Borders Books and Music?) and IF it will be made available for order THROUGH either of them, in case neither store elects to stock the book, on its shelves.
I will let this Forum know what I unearth and find out.

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Are some people really planning to storm the palace and rescue Mary?

If this book is translated into English, I'd read it. Like others have said, there's probably a hint of truth and a lot of fluff.

If anything, this book makes me wonder how well Mary is really coping. Even money and possessions and trips get old after a while. I'm sure her children are great source of comfort to her, but it must be really hard being the Crown Princess of Denmark, especially since she wasn't born into a royal life. But I do think Mary was chosen so to speak, so I hope she can deal with it.
Here is the e-mail that I just now recv'd, from the Authour of the book on/ about The Danish Royal Family:

Hi Abbie,

Yes, it will come out in English. Working on it as we speak. We will keep you updated via the website, but in a not too distant future, sometime this spring, my book will be published in English.

________________________________________________________________

Abbie here: Currently, I am trying to get a response from Trine as to which retailers and shops will carry this book over here in the U.S. -- I would like to see it carried at Barnes and Noble, or Borders Books and Music.

I will keep this Forum posted with whatever I find out, though ...

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I was thinking along the same lines as Polly. According to the portion I read at the DRW site. In one breath the author talks about how unprepared Frederik is to be king. And how he does not really want to be king. But yet the author says she thinks it's time for the Queen to hand things over to Fred. And that this should happen no later then 2012. According to the author she says Fred does not know what to do with his future role but yet she wants him to start his reign. A bit contradicting is it not?

Well, I have only limited access to this entire matter so I shall be cautious not to comment too much. But I am curious to hear from those of you that are planning on reading the book.

Oh and does anyone know about Mary breaking down in tears on the dance floor? That was mentioned on the DRW site but I was a little confused about the whole thing. When did that happen and what is the story there? Or is there a story there?
... then we will all know for sure ...

Interestingly enough, CP Mary's father stated, in the one of the parts of the MULTI-part Documentary of her up now in You Tube, that after she met Fred, she started "putting on Danish airs".
Australians certainly don't appear to stand on any formality, that's for sure.
They really appear to rail against anything that even smacks of being "above it all".

I would like to hear from Australian posters on or about this, please.
Am I somewhat accurate, that is?

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Why on earth would anyone want to buy a book filled with what is more than likely "a hint of truth and a lot of fluff" (Burberry Brit) about the Danish Royal Family? Do we really want the Trine Villemanns in this world to profit from such as this. For every book sold Trine Villeman receives royalties. Just something to think about....

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