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Old 10-14-2007, 12:56 PM
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I want to echo the opinions of those who question the credibility of the writer of this book. There is always more than one side to a story. Of course any royal family will always present themselves in a positive light. They are bias quite naturally, and also by necessity due to their position. Besides, no one should ever wash his or her dirty laundry in public, there is nothing to be gained from it.

Is it possible that F&M are unhappy? Of course, anything is possible. If it’s true that the marriage is crumbling, there are two options: a) they can get a divorce and end their unhappiness (Fred has the good example of little brother) or b) If they decide that there is too much at stake and choose to bare and grin it, Jackie Kennedy should be of inspiration to Mary. The choice seems to be, bow out gracefully or go to your grave having made the ultimate sacrifice.

If some other party wishes to present the other side of the story, in my opinion, he/she needs to provide evidence upon which to base their sides. Otherwise, hearsay is regarded as gossip and there are plenty of mediums such - as magazines and Internet - why waste the time in a book. I don’t think pointing out the obvious with statement like - Mary had a difficult time adjusting to her new home and environment – is newsworthy. Since I have not read the book, I’m basing my view of this money making venture on hearsay as well. My question is: what is the usefulness of writing a book about the potential demise of the marriage?

I hope they are content with their life and not acting, but in the event that a divorce should be announced sometime in the future, when and if that happens, I will be very sorry for all involved.
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:58 PM
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I will not by the book - nor read it. The review by Berligske Tidende is sufficient for me - I have got better things spending my life dooing then reading undocumentet tittle-tattle.
If one thinks the review of Berlinske Tidende is quite negative - JP is ripping Trine Villemann and her book to pieces.

jp.dk - Det siges, at ...

Considering the fact that Berlinske Tidende and JP are serious albeit conservative newspapers and not tabloids or gossip magazines Trine Villemanns reputation is allready in question regarding this book.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:15 PM
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I hope they are content with their life and not acting, but in the event that a divorce should be announced sometime in the future, when and if that happens, I will be very sorry for all involved.
I remmber Mary saying in an Interview with reports & with Frederik that they would never come to a divorce, they will try & work things out but no divorce.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:34 PM
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At the end of the day, those who worship Mary will dismiss this as a fabrication, those who dislike her will praise its truth.

It's pertinent to point out though that nobody saw Alex and Joachim's split and it was a huge shock to everybody.
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At the end of the day, those who worship Mary will dismiss this as a fabrication, those who dislike her will praise its truth.

It's pertinent to point out though that nobody saw Alex and Joachim's split and it was a huge shock to everybody.
Very true, said in simple form
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:49 PM
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so what option would the neutral people have? to say the truth is somewhere in the middle? IMHO that is not always true and considering the gutter journalism by this lady, I am more inclined to say that many/most of her ´facts´were fabricated or blown out of proportions.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:54 PM
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At the end of the day, those who worship Mary will dismiss this as a fabrication, those who dislike her will praise its truth.

It's pertinent to point out though that nobody saw Alex and Joachim's split and it was a huge shock to everybody.
Maybe, though the book isn't about Mary, it's about the DRF. And if one wants to believe Berlinske Tidende than in the book the bad ones are the Queen and Alexandra and the good ones are Joachim and Mary.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:07 PM
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Where the Australien press has got its quotes from - I don't know - but I am sure it is not Mary.

The Danish Royal Family isn't dysfunctional - the only dysfunctional thing connecter to the DRF, are those mediocre journaliste writing for unreliable magazines and tasteless publishing houses, because serious and trustworthy medias woun't employ them.
Lilla, the Australian press got its quotes from the book itself. It was reported that the author said the DRF was dyfunctional, certainly not Mary.


In reality, I believe that there are probably ups and downs in the marriage as I know of not one marriage which doesn't experience these things, from time to time. However, I can't reconcile what's known about Mary with the picture of her allegedly offered in this book. She isn't a weak woman at all, and, unlike Princess Diana, most assuredly wasn't raised to be a compliant and obliging woman in any partnership - few of us in Australia are. I can understand that she might have had her moments when pregnant, but she bounced back rather quickly after the birth of both her children, and this usually doesn't denote a disturbed, unhappy, jealous or resentful woman in my opinion.

The impression which I've gleaned from the newspaper reports here is that the book is not just gossipy but nasty. It will probably never be translated into English (too few interested readers, and Australia is a small market) so I'll never be in a position to judge, though I instinctively believe that much of it will be fabrication. And no, I don't worship Mary! (what a strange suggestion).
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:02 PM
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And no, I don't worship Mary! (what a strange suggestion).
Yes it is a strange suggestion.
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I don't believe she was referring to you or anyone as worshiping Mary in its purest definition of the word, Polly. Perhaps the word support may be a better choice, but certainly not "worship".

Second, it seems Berligske Tidende, just as some would claim Trine to be, has an adgenda as well. Don't most news media have a corner/side they claim? Example, for we Americans: FoxNews vs. CNN vs MSNBC. The Washington Post vs. LA Times vs Honolulu Advertiser.

Berligske Tidende is a conservative paper that supports the DRF and vemently despises any sort of gossipy papers as well as journalists. Including those from Billed Bladet. Essentially, it makes sense that they would target the book as being "nasty".

I've said it before, and I will say it again: I'm a grown woman who is not influenced by the masses. I would purchase this book, read it, and come to my own conclusions. It is easy for me to decipher/read between the lines whilst reading unauthorized biographies such as 1015 Kobenhaven.

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Old 10-14-2007, 05:23 PM
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I've said it before, and I will say it again: I'm a grown woman who is not influenced by the masses. I would purchase this book, read it, and come to my own conclusions. It is easy for me to decipher/read between the lines whilst reading unauthorized biographies such as 1015 Kobenhaven.

Hopefully, you live at a place where books are not as expensive as they are in Denmark. I would personally never pay the Danish price for this book when I can get the same sort of 'research' and hearsay in the weekly edition of Se&Hør
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Books here are not that expensive. How much will it be selling for in Denmark, Userdane?
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Old 10-14-2007, 06:13 PM
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The book is 199 DKK, which is around $40 USD.
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Old 10-14-2007, 06:26 PM
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I've said it before, and I will say it again: I'm a grown woman who is not influenced by the masses. I would purchase this book, read it, and come to my own conclusions. It is easy for me to decipher/read between the lines whilst reading unauthorized biographies such as 1015 Kobenhaven.
If you fell like doing that, you are in youre right to do so. I am afraid you will be pritty bored while reading the book, as Jyllandsposten described it as beeing tremendously tiresome.
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Actually UserDane, that's something I've noticed aswell. Just how expensive books are in Denmark. An Australian usually gets more for our money in Denmark, than in many other parts of the world, but the price of merchandise is more expensive.

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Old 10-15-2007, 01:57 AM
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The following is an extract from today's Crikey, a political and social e-commentary to which I pay to subscribe. The author of this piece is a very well-known and respected journalist and seems to have placed the whole issue in its proper perspective.

5. Princess Mary: Diana with a Dane


Guy Rundle in Uppsala, writes:


Members of Scandinavia's Australian expat community are currently in training in a secret location for a daring raid to rescue one of our own - our Mary, Princess of Denmark, prisoner of the castle.


According to Copenhagen 1015-K, an expose by veteran Danish royal watcher Trine Villemann (the title is the royals' postcode, it's a 90210 reference), Crown Prince Frederik never really wanted to be married, doesn't want to be King, and won't stop visiting his old girlfriends, a string of blonde, long-legged great Danes. Big women I mean, not dogs. This is Frederik, not Charles.

Mary hides in the castle from her dysfunctional in-laws, and from the Danish vowel pronunciation system, which even Danish children find impossible to learn.




According to reports in Denmark's Kvallposten, after being with Frederik when he met old girlfriend Bettin Odum at a fortieth birthday, "Mary bröt samman av svartsjuka och började gråta inför alla gästerna."

Which either means she bought salmon and then was sick all over it, or broke down and began to cry in front of all the guests. The latter I think.

Apparently Fred just wants to hang out with friends, while his younger brother Prince Joachim is more kinglike.

Our Mary is being unfavourably compared to Joachim's regal ex-wife Alexandra, and it's all wearing her down Diana-style, which is why first Kon-Tiki force is going in. Mind you, she should have realised on first meeting that her future in-laws' family were the raw material for Hamlet - at which point it would have been smart to slip out of the Slip Inn.

Many are saying that contrary to tradition it might have been better if Frederik had chosen a wife from among the Danish. Person not pastry. Though Princess Neenish was much loved before the First World War before being tragically eaten by Edward VII.

I just love the idea of the First Kon-Tiki Force of Australians in Scandinavia secretly training to storm the palace and rescue poor, beseiged Mary.

Rundle's article is the appropriate, and, I dare say, very Australian response to what sounds like an extraordinary book.
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At the end of the day, those who worship Mary will dismiss this as a fabrication, those who dislike her will praise its truth.

It's pertinent to point out though that nobody saw Alex and Joachim's split and it was a huge shock to everybody.
It's not correct that nobody saw A and J split. There were rumours of marriage crisis and divorce for quite some time. But at the end of the day, those who worshipped Alexandra dismissed them as fabrications.

As Binz already pointed out this book is not about Mary but about the whole DRF, the press is just focusing on the Mary parts because Mary is the one who sells.
As someone who studied history and doesn't like the sugary style of Billed-Bladet I would appreciate a more objective and even critical view of the royal house. But this is definitely nothing I or anyone else will get from EB.

It will be interesting to see how many books will be sold. I have the feeling it will be less than they hoped for. IMO the Danes may buy cheap magazines and newspapers but they don't buy expensive books to read negative assumptions and rumours (and that's all there is) about their royal house.
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The book is 199 DKK, which is around $40 USD.
That is expensive for a book. How many pages is it?
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Danish Royal Watches website has 2 translations of the book review made by JP.DK and Berlingske.DK :

Danish Royal Watchers: Trine Villemann gets another blistering review, or is it not a review?

Danish Royal Watchers: Trine Villemann's book worst of 2007 - book review

jp.dk - Det siges, at ...

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/200...tur/110121192/
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That is expensive for a book. How many pages is it?
It's relatively cheap for a Danish book, actually. In Denmark a 25% VAT is added to most items.

The book is 224 pages.
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