Royal roles for future spouses of Carl Philip and Madelaine

[HRHofNothing]

What royal roles if any, would the future spouses of these two younger royals have within sweden?

I magine that since Carl Philip's wife will be a Princess of Sweden she would have some royal duties, wheras Madeline's husband (who probably will remain a commoner) will have none.

[princess leonor]

Won't they be supporing the crownprince couple at some important royal events? Why would Madeline's husband remain a commoner, would he be granted no royal title at all, I mean maybe not prince then, but count or duke or something?

[HRHofNothing]

Originally Posted by princess leonor

Won't they be supporing the crownprince couple at some important royal events? Why would Madeline's husband remain a commoner, would he be granted no royal title at all, I mean maybe not prince then, but count or duke or something?

There is debate as to wether Victoria's husband will be granted a title so I really doubt is Madeline's husband will have a title.

[randomlyKeira]

I think that it woudl be abit of an insult, and probably a little degrading if Victoria's husband didn't get a title. He'd be consort, so that seems sort of odd that he woudln't have a title.

Madeline's husband would probably be offered a title, but it would be up to him if he took it or not. But he'd never be a "commoner" as he'd be husband of a high-ranking Princess and member of the royal family. Her children might have subsidary titles, wouldn't they? I'm not sure what the titles are in Sweeden, but in England a Duchess (in her own right) would still have her children with the title of Lady and subsidary title for the heir to the title. Correct me please, anyone, as I'm not sure how it works in Sweeden.

[Helen88]

I was wondering...when Carl Gustaf was young, wasn't it that way that he couldn't marry a commoner without losing his right to the throne? (I thought that was why he only married Silvia when he was king because then he could actually manage a commoner). Would it not be the same with the royal children? Or did they change this? All the king's sisters are no longer members of the Royal Family, are they? But, it just strikes me that Brigitta married a prince so shouldn't she still be in the family? Confusing...

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Helen88

I was wondering...when Carl Gustaf was young, wasn't it that way that he couldn't marry a commoner without losing his right to the throne? (I thought that was why he only married Silvia when he was king because then he could actually manage a commoner). Would it not be the same with the royal children? Or did they change this? All the king's sisters are no longer members of the Royal Family, are they? But, it just strikes me that Brigitta married a prince so shouldn't she still be in the family? Confusing...

First the Constitution was changed in 1974 and now marriages to commomers are allowed. It would be strange if CArl Gustaf's children wpuld loose their succession-right by marriage to a commoner when they have a mother who was a commoner. Yes Princess Birgitta is the only of the King's sisters who is still HRH. The other 3 lost it at their marriage like the sisters of King Harald V. of Norway. The also never had sucession-rights.

[Helen88]

But still Madeleine's husband would not be a prince, would he? Carl Philip's wife would be a princess still?

[annieblack]

A man marrying a princess doesn't automatically recieve a title but a woman marrying a prince would automatically recieve her husbands titles.

[Boris]

No. In the Bernadotte's case, this is not correct.
The question of titles for future spouses of the King's children is totally undecided as of now. It's the first time in Swedish history that all his children all remain dynasts regardless of whom they choose to marry, so this will create a new precedent under the new constitutional laws.
In this age of equal rights, it's not a given at all that a future wife of Prince Carl Phillip will become a Princess while a future husband will not become Prince.
It's very possible that titles will be given (or withheld) regardless of the sex, stressing the point of equality. It's going to be an interesting decision, completely up in the air right now.

[Next Star]

Yes I still think Carl-Philp and Madeleine will help their older sister with the royal duites and support her in her future role as queen.Now about this title situation the king is the only one who can give out titles to members of the royal family upon his
decesion to do so or not.