Press Reports & Discussion about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist - Part 2; April '12-

[Thomasine]

Originally Posted by Boris

Thank you for sharing your observations,Thomasine.
I’m afraid that the photo currently chosen by Miss Hellqvist as her facebook profile pic with its ‘Strike the pose’ attitude might not exactly be suited to alleviate any reservations about her either:
http://s9.postimage.org/b70poat27/He...t_Facebook.jpg

Exactly Boris. I could not have said it better myself.

[CrownPrincess5]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Sofia Hellqvist at the celebrations of the second anniversary of Project Playground in Langa, Thursday 25th October.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-my2AlxOqKf...0/IMG_6699.JPG

Did she have to put "Founder" right underneath her name! I'm sure those people knew who she was, she did not have to broadcast it. And She definitely does not have the prettiest smile.

[Dman]

Well yeah, It helps others know who you are, especially if your meeting someone for the very first time.

[HRHHermione]

Originally Posted by CrownPrincess5

Did she have to put "Founder" right underneath her name! I'm sure those people knew who she was, she did not have to broadcast it. And She definitely does not have the prettiest smile.

Including your job function on name tags for business functions is pretty standard practice. Also, I doubt she personally made and printed the name tags.

[Bine221]

According to "Bunte" Sofia is the "looser" at the engagement with Madeleine and Chris. Now it is her, who needs to wait even longer....

Carl Philip von Schweden: Wie lange stellt er Sofia noch auf die Probe? - BUNTE

Bye Bine

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by CrownPrincess5

Did she have to put "Founder" right underneath her name! I'm sure those people knew who she was, she did not have to broadcast it. And She definitely does not have the prettiest smile.

We don't know what kind of guests attended at the party, it is quite possible that all of them, I guess most of them were from South Africa, don't know who Sofia is. Maybe all the workers of Project Playground had under their name clarification what they are doing at PP.

Here's Sofia and Frida with the organizers of the Ambrosius Lundensis Charity Ball (incomes donated for PP) on 15th September, Ilka and Christian Anker with Sofia and Frida at the 2nd anniversary celebrations.
http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...38610429_n.jpg

Ilka and Christian are working with Project Playground at the project, where they take glasses to the children in South Africa and organized Branning Optician to check the children's eyes in Langa, they have spent some time in Langa. Here with Sofia, Frida, the workers of PP and the optician crew.
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...23939775_n.jpg

The photos are from Glomedica's Facebook, it's their company: "Private medical company with competence in orthopedic surgery run by Drs Ilka and Christian Anker. Cooperates with charity organization Project Playground in Langa, Cape Town, South Africa. Founder and organizer of charity ball "Ambrosius Lundensis".
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...6615612&type=3

[Boris]

Originally Posted by CrownPrincess5

Did she have to put "Founder" right underneath her name! I'm sure those people knew who she was, she did not have to broadcast it. And She definitely does not have the prettiest smile.

A tag like that is pretty normal standard indeed, though the cartoon-ish design of the tag maybe isn't.
Anyway the issue here consist IMHO rather of the fact that the 'Founder' title stretches the truth - founder of 'Project Playground' was and is Frida Vesterberg, no matter how many times the project's history is re-written by naming Sofia Hellqvist as founder.

[Thomasine]

Originally Posted by Bine221

According to "Bunte" Sofia is the "looser" at the engagement with Madeleine and Chris. Now it is her, who needs to wait even longer....

Carl Philip von Schweden: Wie lange stellt er Sofia noch auf die Probe? - BUNTE

Bye Bine

It is not for Carl Philip to decide how long the wait will be. It is the King's decision if and when he will submit a request to goverment for approval of the match.

[Cinderella5x]

Originally Posted by Boris

A tag like that is pretty normal standard indeed, though the cartoon-ish design of the tag maybe isn't.
Anyway the issue here consist IMHO rather of the fact that the 'Founder' title stretches the truth - founder of 'Project Playground' was and is Frida Vesterberg, no matter how many times the project's history is re-written by naming Sofia Hellqvist as founder.

That's interesting... Are you sure of that?
That means she would lie on the name tag? Makes no sense to lie, since anyone can check that, I would think?

[Boris]

Originally Posted by Cinderella5x

That's interesting... Are you sure of that?

Yes.
Unfortunately 'Project Playground, Sofia's charity' has been quite firmly implanted in the popular conception by now, and I realize it might be more exhausting than usual to go through the 31 pages of this particular topic, but it has been mentioned several times in posts and sources that 'Project Playground' was initially founded by Frida Vesterberg, a Swede who lives in South Africa, while Sofia Hellqvist came on board when she began dating Prince Carl Philip.

[Dman]

Like I used to say about William & Catherine, we just have to wait and see.

[Cinderella5x]

Originally Posted by Boris

Yes.
Unfortunately 'Project Playground, Sofia's charity' has been quite firmly implanted in the popular conception by now, and I realize it might be more exhausting than usual to go through the 31 pages of this particular topic, but it has been mentioned several times in posts and sources that 'Project Playground' was initially founded by Frida Vesterberg, a Swede who lives in South Africa, while Sofia Hellqvist came on board when she began dating Prince Carl Philip.

Thank you. To be honest, I didn't think about going through the pages at all . Sorry about that.
Now, I understand while some may be upset by the fact Sofia put "Founder" below her name on the name tag. Highly unfair.

[CrownPrincess5]

Originally Posted by Boris

Yes.
Unfortunately 'Project Playground, Sofia's charity' has been quite firmly implanted in the popular conception by now, and I realize it might be more exhausting than usual to go through the 31 pages of this particular topic, but it has been mentioned several times in posts and sources that 'Project Playground' was initially founded by Frida Vesterberg, a Swede who lives in South Africa, while Sofia Hellqvist came on board when she began dating Prince Carl Philip.

That's sort of what I thought. I don't remember her being the one to start it from ground up. Maybe "Co-Founder" would be more appropriate?

[LadyFinn]

I have also read that Frida Vesterberg started Project Playground alone. But she is the only person who could answer to the question, why she allows nowadays to be written that she and Sofia started it together.

[Cinderella5x]

Originally Posted by CrownPrincess5

That's sort of what I thought. I don't remember her being the one to start it from ground up. Maybe "Co-Founder" would be more appropriate?

If one is a "Co-Founder" that person also is in the project from the beginning. I would assume being a "Co-Founder" means she would start the project with Frida Vesterberg. Sofia did not, from what I understood; therefore she is not a "Co-Founder". She may be in a board now, may have an important role (has she? is she?) but she is far from being either "Founder" or "Co-Founder" as it looks now.

By putting a "Founder" on her name tag she is misrepresenting the truth.

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by Cinderella5x

If one is a "Co-Founder" that person also is in the project from the beginning. I would assume being a "Co-Founder" means she would start the project with Frida Vesterberg. Sofia did not, from what I understood; therefore she is not a "Co-Founder". She may be in a board now, may have an important role (has she? is she?) but she is far from being either "Founder" or "Co-Founder" as it looks now.

By putting a "Founder" on her name tag she is misrepresenting the truth.

But Frida Vesterberg has agreed that they are constantly telling that they founded PP together. From their annual report: "Project Playground was founded by Sofia Hellqvist and Frida Vesterberg in early 2010".

Board members Project Playground Sweden
Sofia Hellqvist – President & Co founder of Project Playground
Frida Vesterberg – Vice President & Co founder of Project Playgroundearly 2010".

Board members Project Playground Trust South Africa
Frida Vesterberg – President & Co founder of Project Playground
Sofia Hellqvist – Vice President & Co founder of Project Playground
http://www.project-playground.org/en...-2010-2011.pdf

[Cinderella5x]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

But Frida Vesterberg has agreed that they are constantly telling that they founded PP together. From their annual report: "Project Playground was founded by Sofia Hellqvist and Frida Vesterberg in early 2010".

Board members Project Playground Sweden
Sofia Hellqvist – President & Co founder of Project Playground
Frida Vesterberg – Vice President & Co founder of Project Playgroundearly 2010".

Board members Project Playground Trust South Africa
Frida Vesterberg – President & Co founder of Project Playground
Sofia Hellqvist – Vice President & Co founder of Project Playground
http://www.project-playground.org/en...-2010-2011.pdf

Can't open the link.

This is all too confusing then. Why would she said they did it together if they didn't? Or maybe they really did? So what is the truth now?

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by Cinderella5x

Can't open the link.

This is all too confusing then. Why would she said they did it together if they didn't? Or maybe they really did? So what is the truth now?

For me it opens.
The report is at the bottom of this page
Press : Project Playground

[Dman]

It officially states- Founders of Project Playground: Sofia Hellqvist & Frida Vesterberg

So I'm trying to figure out what's the matter with Sofia being a founder of this charity?

[Cinderella5x]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

For me it opens.
The report is at the bottom of this page
Press : Project Playground

Thank you, it opens now.