Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 1: Jan. 2010 - April 2012


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I will admit that I don't like Sofia very much and I think that she is too well known for the rather troublesome things she has done, I have to question what does he see in her??

If he was to ask Sofia to marry him then I think he is going to have a really hard time trying to convince the people that she is the best for this royal family... I think that if he wants Sofia then he has to give a little and that may mean his line to the thrown ( I honestlty think he doesn't want to be a royal anymore) If so then this little boy prince will have a reality check and have to grow up a little and fight for his living instead of what he gets now.

If he marries her and is aloud to be Prince then it is Sofia who is going to need to wake up and realise that this isn't going to be a walk in the park for a princess so close to the crown.
 
I think as things stand he'll have to choose between Sofia and his position. He is currently second in line, and (I've said this further up the thread so apologies for the repetition) Daniel and Victoria don't have health/age on their side. I hope they have lots of V/D babies but IF they don't the line goes through CP - how rubbish does it sound if the future monarch is the child of a former topless model?

No matter how much charity work she does now or in the future THAT picture with the snake is going to be reprinted until her dying day (whether she's a royal or not). It's up to her how much work she's willing to do to establish herself as suitable princess material but designing yoga clothes for kids doesn't go far enough IMO!

Interesting to see how this one plays out!
 
If he decides to marry her and the Swedes say they don't want her as a Princess, it becomes a very problematic situation.
Either CP will either give up his title, loose his place in line for succesion, alienate himself from his family and have to do something with his life. Which if Victoria isn't pregnant, puts the line of succesion into trouble as it goes to a Princess who spends most of her time in NY getting tanned.
Agree with this and for the sake of monarchy in Sweden I really hope Victoria is or will be pregnant really soon so both CP and Madde are pushed down the succession line. :whistling:

If he doesn't give up his title for Sofia, that's going to damage the monarchy as well. He will be shown as a very uncaring and unloving person, IMO.
Don't think so, from what I read most people will be only happy that he finally got some common sense. Not likely to happen though.
 
At the moment the connection giving the impression of becoming closer than ever before. Joint "Love nest" goes already pretty much in the direction of a very serious relationship.
If it is getting further this way, then we may have to consider an anouncement within 2011.

I seriously hope, that CP Victoria has something really important to announce beforehand..... this would be the best gift for the Swedes after her fathers scandalous intimacies and a potential conflicting proposal.

On the other hand: it may happen, that people will be exciting on potential news, as they will receive a new member of the royal family -- and even if her past is a very "discussionable" one, she is a beautiful girl and her look may become another "jewel in the crown".
See Catherine Middleton: the British press titled her "Waity Katie", and suddenly after the proposal everybody is completely excited about her. Just my 2 cents, of course.


Bye Bine
 
At the moment the connection giving the impression of becoming closer than ever before. Joint "Love nest" goes already pretty much in the direction of a very serious relationship.
If it is getting further this way, then we may have to consider an anouncement within 2011.

I seriously hope, that CP Victoria has something really important to announce beforehand..... this would be the best gift for the Swedes after her fathers scandalous intimacies and a potential conflicting proposal.

On the other hand: it may happen, that people will be exciting on potential news, as they will receive a new member of the royal family -- and even if her past is a very "discussionable" one, she is a beautiful girl and her look may become another "jewel in the crown".
See Catherine Middleton: the British press titled her "Waity Katie", and suddenly after the proposal everybody is completely excited about her. Just my 2 cents, of course.


Bye Bine
We could not compare the highly intelligent Kate Middleton with Sofia,Kate comes from not a noble family,but with good school and high education and knowledge of etiquette.
 
We could not compare the highly intelligent Kate Middleton with Sofia,Kate comes from not a noble family,but with good school and high education and knowledge of etiquette.
Which means in her case the same as nothing. All that she has accomplished, except of her education, so far was waiting till William gave her the ring. In my book the only difference between Kate and Sofia are the nude pics. Neither of them has accomplished anything in their lives and high education is not a confirmation of high inteligence, you can meet many people without university degree, who are highly intelligent.
 
Kate has worked for Jigsaw and her parents business, which is not something I would call "nothing accomplished" ;) Apart from Kate's degree which is a 2/1 and so not too bad, either ;)
 
:previous: Not sure what exactly is "Jigsaw", what I found through google is that it should be a spam based business. :ermm: And didn't her parents business run into problems for selling personal data of their clients to third companies?
 
^ i think Jigsaw is a clothing business owned by friends of the family (kate's), and yes, IMO, the only difference between the two is the nude pictures. Infact, if CP and Sofia get enagaged soon, I would hold her in higher regard because she didnt wait 8 long years for a prince's marriage proposal
 
No, Kates parents company didn't run into problems for selling personal data.
 
^ i think Jigsaw is a clothing business owned by friends of the family (kate's), and yes, IMO, the only difference between the two is the nude pictures. Infact, if CP and Sofia get enagaged soon, I would hold her in higher regard because she didnt wait 8 long years for a prince's marriage proposal
Yes Jigsaw is a clothing company but it is not owned by friends of Kate's family. Do you hold everyone who dates for eight years before getting married in low regard or is it just Kate?

Sofia is Sofia. Whatever choices she has made in the past are not going to go away if they get engaged but it doesn't mean that she can't move on from them. Many people have pasts that might raise a few eyebrows but that doesn't stop them making new lives for themselves and accomplishing wonderful things. People just need to wait and see what will happen with them.
 
I think that the grand plan as far as the Swedish Royal Family is for Victoria to have a few kids so Carl Philip and Madeline move down the line of succession and eventually drop off the royal radar.

However there is one problem with this. Until Victoria's child reaches the age of majority there remains the possibility that Carl Philip will have to serve as Regent...This means that a Princess Sophia could be in the lime-light for a long time.

As a Princess what would she do? Patronize the cause of strippers, porn stars and reality show wannabees?
 
The public role of prince Carl Philip is rather small (compared to that of his elder sister), and soon prince Daniel will 'need' some causes. So in that light I think that the amount of duties and causes of ANY wife of prince Carl-Philip will be limited.

The prince is not engaged yet, he has only been dating for a couple of months, so a marriage at this stage is most likely out of the question.
 
Well, in defence of Sofia i got to say that if Norway could stand Mette-Marit that had A) a child already, B) trouble with her parents and C) spent her free time in questionable situations involving drugs then Sofia isnt all to bad if the only thing against her are photos of her nude.
 
Well, in defence of Sofia i got to say that if Norway could stand Mette-Marit that had A) a child already, B) trouble with her parents and C) spent her free time in questionable situations involving drugs then Sofia isnt all to bad if the only thing against her are photos of her nude.

Well, you are right. Mette-Marit was everything but not the perfect Crown Princess in the beginning. And look, how she evolved since, she is a perfect addition to the royal family and a truely regal future queen. Similar to Letizia, a divorced woman -- and now a perfect CP of Asturias.

And: Sweden may be more open and relaxed if it comes to their RF, than i.e. Spain. CP Felipe had to split with his former girlfriend, as she was a dessous model. And she showed less skin than Sofia.

BYe Bine
 
Well, you are right. Mette-Marit was everything but not the perfect Crown Princess in the beginning. And look, how she evolved since, she is a perfect addition to the royal family and a truely regal future queen. Similar to Letizia, a divorced woman -- and now a perfect CP of Asturias.

And: Sweden may be more open and relaxed if it comes to their RF, than i.e. Spain. CP Felipe had to split with his former girlfriend, as she was a dessous model. And she showed less skin than Sofia.

BYe Bine
Well,in my opinion Leticia always had a good class,job and manners
 
As a Princess what would she do? Patronize the cause of strippers, porn stars and reality show wannabees?
:ROFLMAO: Thanks for a good laugh. :flowers:

Amelia said:
Yes Jigsaw is a clothing company but it is not owned by friends of Kate's family. Do you hold everyone who dates for eight years before getting married in low regard or is it just Kate?
Nothing wrong with dating someone for 8 years before getting married, for example Victoria & Daniel did the same thing. ;) The difference is that Daniel was not sitting on his butt waiting till Vickan says yes to him and he can put a ring on her finger.

mattep74 said:
Well, in defence of Sofia i got to say that if Norway could stand Mette-Marit that had A) a child already, B) trouble with her parents and C) spent her free time in questionable situations involving drugs then Sofia isnt all to bad if the only thing against her are photos of her nude.
I like your thinking. However A) & B) are really not such a big issue these days and her wild young days can be responsible for C), but then again the same can apply for Sofia's pics. :bang: Okay, you won, but I'm still hoping that someone knocks some sense into Carl Philip and he breaks up with her.
 
Seeing things as i see, he most likely will end up marrying her.
We've seen MM past, Letizia's past, Kate's modelling pics, etc etc...as we say in spanish, Que le hace una mancha más al tigre? (what does a spot more to the tiger?)
 
Yes Jigsaw is a clothing company but it is not owned by friends of Kate's family. Do you hold everyone who dates for eight years before getting married in low regard or is it just Kate?

Sofia is Sofia. Whatever choices she has made in the past are not going to go away if they get engaged but it doesn't mean that she can't move on from them. Many people have pasts that might raise a few eyebrows but that doesn't stop them making new lives for themselves and accomplishing wonderful things. People just need to wait and see what will happen with them.

No Amelia I do not hold everyone who dates for 8 years before getting married in low regard, but I do hold those in low regard who do nothing but WAIT AROUND for a proposal while bidding time away working for family/ friends.
And yes they are family friends of Kate and even gave the prince and kate their home on the Island of Mystique (not sure about the place) for free when the prince complained that the rent was too high for him to pay. So according to newspaper reports, YES they are family friends of Kate.
 
HRHofNothing said:
I think that the grand plan as far as the Swedish Royal Family is for Victoria to have a few kids so Carl Philip and Madeline move down the line of succession and eventually drop off the royal radar.

However there is one problem with this. Until Victoria's child reaches the age of majority there remains the possibility that Carl Philip will have to serve as Regent...This means that a Princess Sophia could be in the lime-light for a long time.

Do Daniel can not be Regent?

Also I personally feel CP will date her for awhile until he feels both she and Sweden are agreeable to them marrying.
 
I still can't understand that working for your parents company is disregarded as "sitting on your butt" and "bidding time away"?!?!?! Have you ever worked as daughter/son of the owner in a medium to small size company? There is no way you could hide if you wouldn't work.
 
^ i said that because she had more time off than a normal job, such as when the prince would call her, she would go. she even asked for three day work weeks when looking for jobs, explaining that she needed to be with William when he came. She didnt get a job anywhere except at Jigsaw, where she initially worked 4 days, then moved down to three, and then at her parents, where it hasn't been said how much she worked, but i INFER it cant be much since she needed time off to be with William, as she had stated when looking for job earlier. So this is what I call "bidding time away".
 
Many people who work in a family business work very hard. With a family business it is 24/7. You don't get much down time.
 
Well, you are right. Mette-Marit was everything but not the perfect Crown Princess in the beginning. And look, how she evolved since, she is a perfect addition to the royal family and a truely regal future queen. Similar to Letizia, a divorced woman -- and now a perfect CP of Asturias.

And: Sweden may be more open and relaxed if it comes to their RF, than i.e. Spain. CP Felipe had to split with his former girlfriend, as she was a dessous model. And she showed less skin than Sofia.

BYe Bine

I think the main difference between the princesses you mention and the present grlfriend of Carl-Philip, seems that this girl was aiming for a life in the limelight before she met the prince. Mette-Marit and Letizia were both not looking for publicity (even though Letizia worked for television) and even now they don't seem to fond of it, unless it is during their public engagements. So considering that one of Sofia' goals in life before she met the prince was to become a famous person, it makes her motives for being in this relationship somewhat more questionable to many.

But in the end it is all just wild guessing of course. None of us know her so maybe she is a very nice woman.
 
No Amelia I do not hold everyone who dates for 8 years before getting married in low regard, but I do hold those in low regard who do nothing but WAIT AROUND for a proposal while bidding time away working for family/ friends.
And yes they are family friends of Kate and even gave the prince and kate their home on the Island of Mystique (not sure about the place) for free when the prince complained that the rent was too high for him to pay. So according to newspaper reports, YES they are family friends of Kate.

Many, many people choose to work in their family businesses. There is nothing wrong with it, it is a good honest way to make a living and it is a shame that it is used as a way to put someone down. The Robinsons are not family friends of Kate, Belle Robinson, the owner of Jigsaw, stated this in an interview. They lent their house to William through a mutual friend that they had with William not Kate. He didn't pay them for the house but he did make a donation to a local charity instead - the interview about all this is somewhere in old Kate/William threads.
 
No Amelia I do not hold everyone who dates for 8 years before getting married in low regard, but I do hold those in low regard who do nothing but WAIT AROUND for a proposal while bidding time away working for family/ friends.

So you KNOW for a FACT that she did nothing but sit around waiting for Prince William to propose??? Because I don't care how much YOU think something that doesn't make it a truth. It may be your opinion but it certainly isn't a fact where I come from.
 
Please continue the discussion about William and Kate in the appropriate forum (which is the British one). Thanks :flowers:

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As for Sofia, is the Swedish public really going to say "we don't accept her as our princess?" I think they'll be happy with whomever the prince chooses. I've never heard of a public going against the chosen partner of a member of the royal family. Has there ever been such a case?
 
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As for Sofia, is the Swedish public really going to say "we don't accept her as our princess?" I think they'll be happy with whomever the prince chooses. I've never heard of a public going against the chosen partner of a member of the royal family. Has there ever been such a case?

Well, there were many, which were not well accepted, i.e. they were not beloved by the people...... Latest example in Sweden is Carl Gustafs Mother, Princess Sybilla -- she was German (extremly bad after the war) and her husband died early, so it was hard for her and the Swedes did not like her very much.
Other examples are i.e. in Belgium, after the beloved Queen Astrid (mother of Boudouin and Albert) the second wife Lilan was not very much accepted.

And the most well known example of REALLY NOT ACCEPTING the wife of a reigning monarch was of course the Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson. As the government did not want to accept a divorced woman the King had to decide between crown and love -- and he decided for love and had to give up the throne.

BTW: This was only to answer CD_1´s question, so please do not start an extra off-topic thread to discuss my answer ..... :whistling: :eek: :cool:

Bye Bine
 
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