Press Reports about Carl Philip and Sofia Hellqvist, Part 1: Jan. 2010 - April 2012


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Unfortunately, a lot of members on this site get carried away and twist words around and read way too much into some things.

As far as Sophia goes, I think she's questionable to say the least. I found it tacky when late last year she wrote on Twitter, "Here's a secret - I'm dating the prince!" This was before it was revealed in the papers. It came off as someone who wanted to brag to the world that she was with a prince. I also remember reading when she bragged about kissing pornstar Jenna Jameson - classy. She just really comes off as someone who likes to name-drop. And then of course there was the reality show. Let's be honest - people only go on reality shows to get a little fame.

In any case, CP can be with whomever he chooses and if he thinks this is the best he can do, then so be it.

Ain't that the truth! For some, twisting words seem to be the thing to do nowadays.
I agree...reality show stars usually want some kind of fame. She bragged about a lot of things that should be kept to herself. Including how she and her then boyfriend would flip a coin to see who would get the girl. Thats a little off the reservation to me. I found the Twitter thing to be very, very questionable too. Seriously, what girl who's in the relationship for the right reasons would do something like that? Didn't she delete the Twitter account shortly after that?? That really made me wonder if she was phony. It was deleted because she knows she shouldn't have said that and she didn't want it to hit the press. I don't like boasting and bragging, and Sophia has done a lot of that. It does make me wonder about going on in CP's head and how he views himself.

It doesn't matter to me whether anyone agrees with me or not, but I have a strong feeling this is a good old-fashioned fling.
 
If you don't understand something I said, just ask me. I'll gladly tell you.
Thank you for your kind offer.
I trust I have enough grasp of the english language to understand what is being said in these forums.

I stand by my point that the ongoing discussion regarding her looks and the intelligence (or lack of thereof) of her conversation is larded with negative connotations. Comments of the type 'Well, it's wasn't for her intelligence, was it?' are not neutral. They are not neutral when used in real life, and they have a connotation and meaning understood by everybody. If in a casual conversation, for example, you were talking about how you found a new boyfriend and someone would pipe in with a 'I bet you didn't attract him with your challenging conversation!', you would not be please. I know I would not.
So I don't think I'm twisting words or over-reading them in here. Beside, like you, I will keep using my right to express an opinion.

However, I realize our little disagreement must be tedious to read for other members so I'll drop the subject. You may have the last word if you want it, I'm done.
 
Is there any proof for this twitter message? Link?

AFAIK she was part of his circles of friends before they were starting dating.
So it is at least no "shabby bar, rich guy, poor girl with certain attributes"-story.
 
How long have they been dating for now?
 
The Twitter post I have seen myself last year. I remember wondering who "Sofia" was and I thought that it was just some girl who was just posting some lies.
I have been following all the gossip and rumors over the past months.
I think Carl Philip is a very nice guy, has a good heart and is just super-nice, maybe a bit naive,too. He should date whom he wants, no question. I really wish for him that he finds a girl that is super-nice and who has a good soul. To be Princess is not about "looking beautifully". All who say that looks and beauty were enough for being a Princess are shallow and know nothing what Royalty is about actually. It is about good character, honesty, being role-models for people, about hard social work, and about giving up and sacrifice a lot of your life for your country.
I read peoples posts on the internet who say that it was enough if Sofia was beautiful so she would be a great princess and that she and Carl Philip looked cute together. Of course they do, but that alone won't do.
I have a strange feeling about Sofia, since I heard all of a sudden that she is actually dating the Prince. I remembered the Twitter post that I read.
I agree with people saying that one can make "mistakes" in the past, like taking nude pictures. People get older, they change. But to me Sofias current actions make me be a bit concerned.
The question still remains: Is it really love? Or is she just using him? Is he using her? We all can't see into their mind.
If they are honestly in love then I wish them both a lucky lifetime, but if not I feel very sad for both. Because I believe that true love is out there for everyone, Royal or not. In case (and we also have to consider that) Sofia is cheating on Carl Philip for money, parties, fame and admiration then she is keeping the chance for both to find the "right one" (the same is for Carl Philip) So, let's hope this girl is true in her soul, let's hope Carl Philip does not fall for looks only.
In the end - if this relationship is not based on honesty and love but on lies and "gold-digging"- it will end up in drama one day, that is for sure. The truth always wins sooner or later. You can't keep up lies forever, sooner or later the true person shows up in reality. And it would be nasty to read about divorce and gossip-wars with children involved later.
 
In regards to Sofia's past-people change, yes, and they acknowledge their "mistakes". For example, CP Mette-Marit went on National TV to acknowledge her drug use. Now, being involved in a party scene, ie partying and clubbing, doing drugs etc, is very different than deciding to pose nude for a magazine, pose in a bikini for a magazine, and decide to participate in a reality show watched by millions of your countrymen. It doesn't matter if Sofia never had sex with anyone, but that show, unlike say, Amazing Race or heck, even Survivor, seems to be soap-opera style. So, when posters talk about the princesses and their colourful pasts, they are talking about private things, like being divorced, being a single mom, getting pregnant out of wedlock, not about knowingly deciding to be seen as a sex object in magazines and appearing in reality tv shows. I think that is the big differencce between this girl and the others. She strikes one as wanting to make her mark in the international stage in an entertainment medium, so I think that's why people are looking at her as an opportunist.
 
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Speculation about peoples private love lives seems to be as popular as soccer these days. I find it prurient; this is the stuff of cheap celebrity magazines - perhaps it is best left there.
 
But we are talking about the love life of royals, that isn't as private as normal peoples love life.
I'm going to have to ask you what prurient means?
 
pru·ri·ent/ˈpro͝orēənt/

Adjective: Having or encouraging an excessive interest in sexual matters
 
I didn't think it would mean that, seeing as it starts with the letters "pru" but thank you for the definition.

How do you think it's prurient, Hereditary Thane?
 
Thank you for your kind offer.
I trust I have enough grasp of the english language to understand what is being said in these forums.

I stand by my point that the ongoing discussion regarding her looks and the intelligence (or lack of thereof) of her conversation is larded with negative connotations. Comments of the type 'Well, it's wasn't for her intelligence, was it?' are not neutral. They are not neutral when used in real life, and they have a connotation and meaning understood by everybody. If in a casual conversation, for example, you were talking about how you found a new boyfriend and someone would pipe in with a 'I bet you didn't attract him with your challenging conversation!', you would not be please. I know I would not.
So I don't think I'm twisting words or over-reading them in here. Beside, like you, I will keep using my right to express an opinion.

However, I realize our little disagreement must be tedious to read for other members so I'll drop the subject. You may have the last word if you want it, I'm done.

I was not insinuating that you didn't understand English. I was saying that if the meaning of something I said isn't understood then I'll gladly tell you. I wasn't insulting you.
I tried to explain what I meant, but I don't think I could explain it much anymore. It's not my fault that Sophia is seen in a negative light. She did that to herself. There's nothing I can do about it. Your paragraph above is not what I meant when I said it was not her intellect. I meant that CP saw her looks first. Of course.

Please keep using your opinion. People expressing themselves is the beauty of humanity. I do agree that the subject should be dropped. It's dropped.
 
Ain't that the truth! For some, twisting words seem to be the thing to do nowadays.
I agree...reality show stars usually want some kind of fame. She bragged about a lot of things that should be kept to herself. Including how she and her then boyfriend would flip a coin to see who would get the girl. Thats a little off the reservation to me. I found the Twitter thing to be very, very questionable too. Seriously, what girl who's in the relationship for the right reasons would do something like that? Didn't she delete the Twitter account shortly after that?? That really made me wonder if she was phony. It was deleted because she knows she shouldn't have said that and she didn't want it to hit the press. I don't like boasting and bragging, and Sophia has done a lot of that. It does make me wonder about going on in CP's head and how he views himself.

It doesn't matter to me whether anyone agrees with me or not, but I have a strong feeling this is a good old-fashioned fling.

Ewww!:eek: I don't even want to know what that means.

Don't worry about whether people agree with you or not because everyone has a right to voice their opinion. After reading some of the things SHE has said or wrote, my opinion is that she's not exactly a classy gal.
 
Ewww!:eek: I don't even want to know what that means.

Don't worry about whether people agree with you or not because everyone has a right to voice their opinion. After reading some of the things SHE has said or wrote, my opinion is that she's not exactly a classy gal.

Whose this SHE? Sofia or a poster?
 
i dont where this relationship is going..so i will stop posting but i will say this....if she is in it for the wrong reasons...hopefully he will dump and man up and find a true love
 
If that friend article is indeed true, then I don't like the fact that she scouted CP out and waited for the right time to pounce.
Sounds like a gold-digger to me.
 
Exactly. How reliable is Svenskdam (or that particular reporter)?
 
Actually, having read the English translation, it said she liked him because she found him 'cute' and 'nice' which I guess could be a reason to 'scout' someone even if they weren't a prince. This could be just a friend (or 'friend') of hers trying to gain something.

On the other hand, the whole thing about her 'knowing what she wants' about being a princess bothers me a little, if it's true.
 
Exactly. How reliable is Svenskdam (or that particular reporter)?

Svenskdam seems reliable to me.
They don't really bash royals like that. When it comes down to it, I guess only a Swedish person will know how reliable they are.
 
I afraid Sophia do not love Carl Philip. The main thing is his money and title. Many girls want to be princess, living in palace, have much money and do not work.

It is the opposite worlds - his and her, he is intelligent boy from intelligent family, but she is glamour girl (model with many nude photos in internet).

When he understand it, it be sad time for him. Many rich man think girls love them, but it is not true. It is the bad side of the successful man.
 
But they do work, every Princess works very hard to be a good Princess and show that their country deserves them.
You have no idea that Sofia is just after his money, but they relationship has been going on for a year, surely CP would have figured it out by now.

Also, you have no idea how intelligent she is, have you ever met her? Just because she has been a glamour model, does not in any way she is not intelligent.
 
Both CP and Madeleine seem, in contrast to Victoria, to have a faible for the "wrong" boy-/girlfriend. I believe there must be some reason to it: Maybe they always knew that they are much better looking than Victoria plus they have/had much more time to play around with friends without taking things too serious. They seem to range in circles where they obviously can´t find a proper partner. I also could imagine that they in the beginning made secretely fun about Daniel because of him being just a fitnesstrainer whereas Madeleine f.i. was together with that snobby lawyer Jonas. Victoria was from all the beginning fully aware that one day she had to marry the "right one" and that it made no good impression if she as well had tried with a lot of different boyfriends to find out who fits her best. Once she came to know Daniel he was the one and only. Maybe CP doesn´t care about what people think after now that Victoria is married he doesn´t count to become the heir of the throne anymore.
 
Many rich man think girls love them, but it is not true. It is the bad side of the successful man.

and many women think the men love them but it's not true. Wealthy men are well known for chasing leggy models with big boobs. I've no sympathy.
 
or maybe he is just acting like a normal guy would...i mean he just came out of a longterm relationship...dont think he wants another one ..although he is getting up there in age...but i do hope that he finds someone who truly loves him for him....and vice versa...i would want that for anyone!!
 
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