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Old 04-12-2015, 07:54 AM
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French Kissing adult film actresses or Posing nude or almost and just generally the hedonistic party life maybe? Would by very suprized if she is not acquainted with one or more of them.
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Old 04-12-2015, 08:36 AM
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What has Sofia done "Kardashian style" in the last ten years?
There is a video in Youtube, Sofia attended at Toshi Swedish Midsummer Party in 06 at the Puck Building in New York City. At the party the girls/waitresses (?) are topless with swedish flags or flowers in swedish colours painted to their breasts. The girls also give massage to the guests.
Sofia is interviewed at the video. She is having her clothes on, rather revealing though. There is also at least one other video of the party, but Sofia isn't in that. To that video you have to subscribe to proof your age.

From a blog, a girl writes that they went to the party
The place was soooooo sick large. No club directly, but rather a place you rent if you want a biiiig party :). Have even heard that a lot of films are made there in again from time to time. We took the elevators up that led us to upper floor and VIP, where most Swedes actually were.
Just in the early evening we met Sofia Hellqvist the first time from the Paradise Hotel, she was there and worked with Camilla Sundman she too also from Paradise Hotel.
Elita from Big Brother and Bingo's girl Angelica, also from Big Brother, had charge of the masses tables where all the guys had to lie down and be massaged. They were toshi girls together with all who served the alcohol in bars .... they had nothing at the upper body but were painted with bodypainting and had big Swedish flags over their breasts. There were a lot of guys around them all the evening I can say.

I will not put a link to that because there are topless photos.
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Old 04-12-2015, 08:38 AM
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I also don't think Victoria and Daniel will be having more children and I think they know it. I believe this is why Leonore was given a title and why Madeleine and Chris moved back to Sweden because the fact is, for the moment Leonore is the spare of that generation.
I also think that if Carl Philip and Sofia have children (one assumes they want to but nothing's certain) That child will become the new "spare" which means CP and Sofia will be important, visible working members of the family.
The "spare" of Princess Estelle is her uncle, Prince Carl Philip. That means: as long as she has no sibling(s). Then her uncle's possible future children. So the theory that Princess Madeleine returned because her daughter would be "spare" is not very likely.

Note that Sweden is used to a very small circle of royal heirs. After four elder sisters, finally, in the end, Prince Carl Gustaf -the present King- was born. As only males could inherit the throne of Sweden, the young boy was (after his father's death) one of the only two successors to the throne of Sweden. (The other was his almost four decades older, unmarried, uncle Prince Bertil).

So at the moment with five successors, the Swedes have no any urgency in the line of succession...



1. The Crown Princess, Duchess of Västergötland
2. Princess Estelle
3. Prince Carl Philip, Duke of Värmland
4. Priness Madeleine, Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland
5. Princess Leonore
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Old 04-12-2015, 08:50 AM
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.. Probably just the fact, that Daniel is not a healthy man, and Victoria is approaching 40 - so ... the probability of conceiving naturally is allready much diminished - It took them many Years to have Estelle. I do very much wish, they would have another child.
Victoria and Daniel got married 19th June 2010.
The press release of the pregnancy was given 17th August 2011.
Many years to have Estelle?

Never noticed before, that Sofia has a ring at her "ring finger" at this photo in the summer 2006.
http://www.thenewyorkscene.com/webre...s/IMG_2071.jpg
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:04 AM
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There is a video in Youtube, Sofia attended at Toshi Swedish Midsummer Party in 06 at the Puck Building in New York City. At the party the girls/waitresses (?) are topless with swedish flags or flowers in swedish colours painted to their breasts. The girls also give massage to the guests.
Sofia is interviewed at the video. She is having her clothes on, rather revealing though. There is also at least one other video of the party, but Sofia isn't in that. To that video you have to subscribe to proof your age.
I am at a loss as to why a video Sofia did not appear in was quoted. Perhaps our definition of "Kardashian Type" is the problem here.

So, courtesy of the Urban Dictionary, a selection of being 'Kardashian':
  • any woman who is fake, cheap and easy.
  • A beautiful nobody........famous only thanks to physical attributes and free exposure via the internet.
  • adj.) what results from pimping oneself out in the context of lowest-common-denominator pop-culture, selling yourself to all comers, living a life completely constructed and organized for this purpose
I don't see the connection myself. At the above-mentioned party, she was one of many well-known people present and while her top was quite low, it was not unacceptable. Her short "interview" was actually quite humerous and gave an insight into her "persona" when she is relaxed and happy.

That video is from 2006 and so yes, it is within the last ten years but I do not see anything 'Kardashian' about her on it. She wasn't hogging the camera and wittering on about nothing worth saying.

Seeing her speaking spontaneously it was easy to see what the attraction is. She seems delightfully self-confident and comes across as bubbly, very engaging and quite charismatic. With the benefit of nine more years of maturity, I don't find it at all surprising that Carl Philip is enchanted with both her looks and her mind.
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Old 04-13-2015, 02:13 AM
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Never noticed before, that Sofia has a ring at her "ring finger" at this photo in the summer 2006.
http://www.thenewyorkscene.com/webre...s/IMG_2071.jpg
Isn't that what a ringfinger is for?
(or are you insinuating something else in typing that...)
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:51 PM
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In today's press conference with QMII, a member of the Swedish press asked QMII about the upcoming wedding. QMII confirmed (in Swedish) that she was invited and that she looked forward to the wedding which she expected to be a festive occasion. The SRF throw good parties.

She was also asked about her impression of Sofia Hellgvist and QMII replied that she had only met Sophia Hellqvist very briefly and as such had no particular opinion other than she seemed to be a nice girl.
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Old 04-13-2015, 02:08 PM
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In today's press conference with QMII, a member of the Swedish press asked QMII about the upcoming wedding. QMII confirmed (in Swedish) that she was invited and that she looked forward to the wedding which she expected to be a festive occasion. The SRF throw good parties.

She was also asked about her impression of Sofia Hellgvist and QMII replied that she had only met Sophia Hellqvist very briefly and as such had no particular opinion other than she seemed to be a nice girl.
A diplomatic answer to say the least.

I'm pretty sure the family in general (including QMII as first cousin) still has reservations about Sofia, but it's up to her to prove them wrong once she takes up the job.
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Old 04-13-2015, 02:48 PM
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A diplomatic answer to say the least.

I'm pretty sure the family in general (including QMII as first cousin) still has reservations about Sofia, but it's up to her to prove them wrong once she takes up the job.
I don't think the family have any problems with Sofia. I think the problems are with the folks on the internet. Obviously, she will get to know many royals over time and they will get to know her.
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Old 04-13-2015, 02:53 PM
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How could Queen Margrethe have responded differently? "No, I think Sofia is not a good girl for Carl Philip?" She gave the only possible answer she could give.
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Old 04-13-2015, 02:57 PM
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In today's press conference with QMII, a member of the Swedish press asked QMII about the upcoming wedding. QMII confirmed (in Swedish) that she was invited and that she looked forward to the wedding which she expected to be a festive occasion. The SRF throw good parties.

She was also asked about her impression of Sofia Hellgvist and QMII replied that she had only met Sophia Hellqvist very briefly and as such had no particular opinion other than she seemed to be a nice girl.
great. our first confirmed guest.
Knowing that Margrethe is his godmother, I expected her to go
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:18 PM
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How could Queen Margrethe have responded differently? "No, I think Sofia is not a good girl for Carl Philip?" She gave the only possible answer she could give.
From her birthday thread's interviews I get the feeling (and some people have said as much) that she has great subtlety with the phrases she uses, so if she hated Sofia's you-know-what, she probably would have used different words...

After all, DeP, you said the same thing "only possible answer" when you mentioned Q.Margrethe speaking about her daughter in law Mary, and many people told you that there would have been many different answers she could have given, so why would that have been different in this case.
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:18 PM
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I don't think the family have any problems with Sofia. I think the problems are with the folks on the internet. Obviously, she will get to know many royals over time and they will get to know her.
Indeed. Just as QMII hasn't shown any signs of reservations about the King's debauchery, I don't think she or any other members of her family (or, well, as mentioned before, I can't speak for Joachim ) have any sort of reservations about Sofia.
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:33 PM
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I am at a loss as to why a video Sofia did not appear in was quoted. Perhaps our definition of "Kardashian Type" is the problem here.

So, courtesy of the Urban Dictionary, a selection of being 'Kardashian':
  • any woman who is fake, cheap and easy.
  • A beautiful nobody........famous only thanks to physical attributes and free exposure via the internet.
  • adj.) what results from pimping oneself out in the context of lowest-common-denominator pop-culture, selling yourself to all comers, living a life completely constructed and organized for this purpose
I don't see the connection myself. At the above-mentioned party, she was one of many well-known people present and while her top was quite low, it was not unacceptable. Her short "interview" was actually quite humerous and gave an insight into her "persona" when she is relaxed and happy.

That video is from 2006 and so yes, it is within the last ten years but I do not see anything 'Kardashian' about her on it. She wasn't hogging the camera and wittering on about nothing worth saying.

Seeing her speaking spontaneously it was easy to see what the attraction is. She seems delightfully self-confident and comes across as bubbly, very engaging and quite charismatic. With the benefit of nine more years of maturity, I don't find it at all surprising that Carl Philip is enchanted with both her looks and her mind.
To see the possible future princess of Sweden attending to a party like that at the videos is not appropriate behaviour to a sweet and well-mannered girl. I didn't search what the word Kardashian means at the internet. For me word Kardashian means something trashy, and that video and the party were trashy. Are former Paradise Hotel contestants Sofia Hellqvist and Camilla Sundman well-known people in NY? There were more people from Paradise Hotel also. The others attending were swedish photographer Bingo Rimer (if I remember correct, Bingo has taken photos of Sofia) and his wife Angelica, who was one of the topless girls massaging the men, like Elita Löfblad, who has posed for Playboy and made a soft porn movie to Playboy. Bingo Rimer has also said that he is Sweden's Hugh Hefner. A girl wrote to her blog that Sofia was working at the party. So did the organizer of the party pay to Sofia for attending at the party and talking with people?
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:52 PM
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To see the possible future princess of Sweden attending to a party like that at the videos is not appropriate behaviour to a sweet and well-mannered girl.
Wow, ok. I didn't know there was a special rule that dictates that you must have a specially pious past to be "a sweet and well-mannered girl". Good to know.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:18 PM
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Am I correct in thinking that palace/governmental officials will be aware of the various videos and photographs of Sofia over the years and that Carl Philip has not been prevented from marrying Sofia?
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:52 PM
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Am I correct in thinking that palace/governmental officials will be aware of the various videos and photographs of Sofia over the years and that Carl Philip has not been prevented from marrying Sofia?
Of course they know. I don't think they have seen all of them, but they have a rough idea. Sofia has also talked openly about her background, saying (in short) that she doesn't regret anything, but she would have chosen differently today.

The court is trying to give us the impression that Sofias way into the family was an easy ride. I'm sure that's not true. But I'm also sure that they have gotten to know her over the years (they've been together for five years now) and that she is fully accepted.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:00 PM
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Of course they know. I don't think they have seen all of them, but they have a rough idea. Sofia has also talked openly about her background, saying (in short) that she doesn't regret anything, but she would have chosen differently today.

The court is trying to give us the impression that Sofias way into the family was an easy ride. I'm sure that's not true. But I'm also sure that they have gotten to know her over the years (they've been together for five years now) and that she is fully accepted.
Thanks, it is as I thought. I am not sure why the court would need to give such an impression, the result is the same...Sofia and CP are to be married.
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Am I correct in thinking that palace/governmental officials will be aware of the various videos and photographs of Sofia over the years and that Carl Philip has not been prevented from marrying Sofia?
That is exactly the point I have made all along. In order to marry, CP needed the consent of the government and the approval of his father, who has to seek consent from the government on CP's behalf according to the Act of Succession. Since CP got both, I must assume the King and the government have no problems with Sofia's past or, at least, believe that her past does not prevent her from becoming a princess of Sweden.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:09 PM
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That is exactly the point I have made all along. In order to marry, CP needed the consent of the government and the approval of his father, who has to seek consent from the government on CP's behalf according to the Act of Succession. Since CP got both, I must assume the King and the government have no problems with Sofia's past or, at least, believe that her past does not prevent her from becoming a princess of Sweden.
I think that is the simplest and most straightforward way to look at it!
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