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Old 01-19-2015, 04:18 PM
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I like the dress and I think sometimes she looks well dressed.
But, I have to be honest and for me her background colours my opinion. I wouldn't want my sons to marry someone with that background I know that's not the correct thing to say, but being honest here folks.
So for me it's hard to look at her and say she looks good. But I am working on it and hope by the time the wedding comes around I can be truly knocked out by a beautiful bride.


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Old 01-19-2015, 05:42 PM
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I find it interesting that Chris was labelled as a playboy at the swedish press when he started dating Madeleine. There were some photos of him in internet with women, most of them with his former girlfriend.
But Sofia, she is just a lovely girl with a good heart according to the press. I found this collage from the net, most of the photos are from Finest and Stureplan-websites. There are more photos like this. If in these photos would be Chris with different women, he would be called as a womanizer and playboy.
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I find it interesting that Chris was labelled as a playboy at the swedish press when he started dating Madeleine. There were some photos of him in internet with women, most of them with his former girlfriend.
But Sofia, she is just a lovely girl with a good heart according to the press. I found this collage from the net, most of the photos are from Finest and Stureplan-websites. There are more photos like this. If in these photos would be Chris with different women, he would be called as a womanizer and playboy.
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Interesting collage. BTW, were these publicity photos? I confess to not really knowing why Sofia was being photographed with men like this. Are these men former boyfriends?
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Old 01-19-2015, 06:55 PM
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Interesting collage. BTW, were these publicity photos? I confess to not really knowing why Sofia was being photographed with men like this. Are these men former boyfriends?
Does it matter?
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Old 01-19-2015, 06:57 PM
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Interesting collage. BTW, were these publicity photos? I confess to not really knowing why Sofia was being photographed with men like this. Are these men former boyfriends?
Most of those photos are taken at the restaurants and night clubs in Stureplan, where Sofia and her friends used to party. They take photos of the parties and evenings and put the photos to internet.
This guy at the photos is Peder Fogstrand, he calls himself "Greven" = "Count". He is also called the Icon of Stureplan.
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Old 01-19-2015, 07:02 PM
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What I find interesting here is that the problem is not the media trying to portray Chris as a bad person, the problem is the media not trying to portray Sofia as bad person.

That says a lot, but not about the media, Chris or Sofia.
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Old 01-19-2015, 08:35 PM
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Does it matter?
In regards to what? We're gossiping here, not so?

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Most of those photos are taken at the restaurants and night clubs in Stureplan, where Sofia and her friends used to party. They take photos of the parties and evenings and put the photos to internet.
This guy at the photos is Peder Fogstrand, he calls himself "Greven" = "Count". He is also called the Icon of Stureplan.
http://cdn.stureplan.se/legacy/artic...3d8186d41b.jpg
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Thank you. So she was partying and it was the 'in thing' to have your picture taken and posted on the internet. Okay.

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What I find interesting here is that the problem is not the media trying to portray Chris as a bad person, the problem is the media not trying to portray Sofia as bad person.

That says a lot, but not about the media, Chris or Sofia.
Yes, curious business. It may be because Sofia needs 'rehabilitation', and Chris is really squeaky clean? Or is it women are given a wide berth and men are not? What's your take on it?
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Yes, curious business. It may be because Sofia needs 'rehabilitation', and Chris is really squeaky clean? Or is it women are given a wide berth and men are not? What's your take on it?
My take is that there's no need to spread malicious gossip about no one - but, as it seems, that's part of their job.

Also, Sofia's past is on the internet for everyone who wants to see it, and if she had something so terrible on her past, I'm 100% sure the press would have discovered and printed it by now.
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:52 PM
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What I find interesting here is that the problem is not the media trying to portray Chris as a bad person, the problem is the media not trying to portray Sofia as bad person.

That says a lot, but not about the media, Chris or Sofia.
Very well said and I completely agree with you. It's puzzling to me that it has now suddenly become a bad thing that the media isn't spreading petty rumours about a royal (or, future royal, in this case).

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Regardless, I thought it had been very specifically pointed out several times in this thread that comparing royals will cause nothing but arguments?
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:06 AM
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Sofia will make a wonderful princess. She has overcome the negative and accomplished a lot of positive in the past several years.

Sofia will eventually prove to the people of Sweden that she is worthy enough to be a member of the royal family. A respected member of the distinguished Bernadotte dynasty.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:13 AM
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Let's not get carried away now...give it at least a year to see if she can live up to all that :)
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:20 AM
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I'm sure she will.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:35 AM
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It's puzzling to me that it has now suddenly become a bad thing that the media isn't spreading petty rumours about a royal (or, future royal, in this case).
In fairness, I don't think that's what was being suggested. It's that they appear to go after Chris, but not Sofia. Why is that? Why do they go after Chris? Some also feel that they went after Daniel, but nothing with Sofia. Why is that? I think it's a fair question. But one that will have no answer, it seems. Oh well.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:30 AM
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My guess would be that for the gossip-press it's much more "fun"/"rewarding" to find some "dirt" on a person with a seemly unblemished image than on Sofia who's past is pretty much out in the open (occassionally literally).
That said, i think they still have stuff up there sleave for in a couple of years when Sofia is really mingling with the royals; it's probably a lot more "fun" to publish new info then, then to have everything out now.
(or maybe: there's just nothing more to Sofia's past than what we already know...)
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:40 AM
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(or maybe: there's just nothing more to Sofia's past than what we already know...)
But "we" is a rather small group of royal followers. Most of the normal swedes know only a small bit of Sofia's past and haven't seen all the photos. So the gossip press has a quite large group of people to whom most of the information would be new.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:18 AM
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The fact that links that contain photos of her need to be clarified as being SFW (safe for work) is worrisome.
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^Not really, tbh. Work places block many sites, even , normal and safe sites for their ''pornographic content.''

The girl partied hard and did more then most people here would. She has a past, we all do. I hope she looks back on her past with no regret and is able to say it's part of what makes her as a woman now. And those age old comments on how you wouldn't want your son to marry a woman ''like her'' (sl.t-shaming alert) are getting old too. I hope you would want your son to marry whoever makes him happy.
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I think it's a disgrace that she's marrying into this royal family IMO. Thank God CP isn't first in line.

Quick question: I haven't really been following, what will Sofia's title be?
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I think it's a disgrace that she's marrying into this royal family IMO. Thank God CP isn't first in line.

Quick question: I haven't really been following, what will Sofia's title be?
So without really following you have jumped to that conclusion?

You should check with the IAAF (international athletics federation), you might have just set a worldrecord in long-jump
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:11 AM
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Quick question: I haven't really been following, what will Sofia's title be?
The court hasn't announced it, they probably do it just before the wedding. Until that we don't know if she will get a title, or maybe she does like Chris and doesn't want a title.
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