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Old 11-18-2015, 01:17 PM
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I have never agreed with and don't plan to relax my stance about young girls / teens taking photos or walking in runway shows where they are nude and/or promoting sexuality. I wonder why the designers, photographers, editors, etc. can't find older models for this kind of work. Having said that I know that there are respectable people who have much more liberal views than I have and I suspect Sofia and her parents fit in that category.

I remember a few years ago there was an editorial featuring Swedish model Frida Gustavsson where her breast is visible, some found it inappropriate because of her young age while others thought it was OK and chided the critics for being prudes. Another well known Swedish model, Elsa Hosk has pictures of the same type when she was in her mid-teens, and bear in mind that the pictures Sofia took in Thailand are sexual/sexy but still PG-13.

Again, the photos are not to my taste and values, and Sofia's parents and the photographer have been criticized for their part and I get that, but I am much more bothered by how other models are treated, even those that are in the more respectable high fashion segment, oftentimes those models are shipped off alone to foreign countries to fend for themselves.

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Nude pics of a person under the age of eighteen, would have been legal back then. Provided they were taken with the consent of a parent or guardian.
Thanks for that information. I just can't imagine that if something illegal had happened that it would not just have been reported, but it would have been a scandal.

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@Queen Claude - the "cover up" is Sofia denying she ever did those pictures while underage.
When did Sofia deny doing the pictures? I don't recall her addressing it one way or another but she has made a vague comment about her past along the lines that if given the chance would have made different choices but overall she has no regrets. Also what words were used, because I see absurd and incorrect terms used like porn, soft-core porn, stripper, etc.?
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:36 PM
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@Queen Claude I recall reading that Princess Sofia when asked about her past in a pre-wedding interview said she was not ashamed of the things she had done because your past experiences are what build your character but given the option now she would probably make a different choice.
NOW before everyone goes into attack mode I am writing the above in my own words and not quoting the Princess directly.
The pre wedding interview is on you tube and was,done by STV I think.
Perhaps one of our Swedish contributors could tells us what the exact words were. I have tried to find the interview in English but no luck.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:46 PM
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It is not unusual that a Princess misses a State Banquet. Madeleine has missed out on many, and even the Crown Princess does not attend at all State Visits. Imo there is no reason to read so much into Sofia's absence.
Especially given she's pregnant. Who knows how she was feeling that day. Things happen.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:15 PM
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The official story from the CIO was Sofia missed the banquet for a PP anniversary. Illness was never cited and would be have been understood.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:29 PM
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The official story from the CIO was Sofia missed the banquet for a PP anniversary. Illness was never cited and would be have been understood.
I must have missed this, who exactly doesn't "understand" the actual reason why she could attend the state banquet?

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The news stories are implying Sofia is bringing nothing new to the table, so they'll bring up her past. I think these stories were triggered by Sofia being a no show at the Tunisian state visit. The palace put out an explanation...but still Sofia is starting to get bad press, and that includes her past coming back to haunt her.
That's not true and I think you know that There are constantly stories in the tabloids about e.g. Mary and Frederik or William and Catherine – are they not "bringing anything new to the table" either? Quite on the contrary, I think it's safe to establish by now that Sofia is very well-liked, passionate about her work and even more so, good at her work.

It's honestly hilarious to me that people are so adamant to see Sofia fail that when she then turns out to be popular and good at her job, they go to such great lengths to bring her down. I mean... wow.
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Old 11-19-2015, 09:04 PM
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Old 12-16-2015, 02:52 PM
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:50 PM
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Sofia was good at her job then and she seems to be good at her job now.
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Old 12-16-2015, 08:06 PM
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Sofia was good at her job then and she seems to be good at her job now.
I concur.
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Old 12-17-2015, 12:48 AM
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Even has the shirt on under water very prude
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https://www.whimn.com.au/talk/news/m...6e0fdee70a9038

A pretty silly article by Whimn, an Australian gossip site. In English.

It basically says that there may some controversy with Meghan, but we've someone who is more controversial, yippee!

I had considerable reservations about Sofia before she married Carl Phillip. However I'm happy to admit that she to my knowledge hasn't put a foot wrong, and apart from childish articles like this, her past really hasn't been that big an issue. (It helps that she's a secondary royal of course.)
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Old 07-21-2018, 08:44 AM
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She is comparable to Meghan in her position (well, not yet, Meghan will have to wait a little longer before being the wife of the monarch's second child).

The main thing I think she/they should have handled differently is the promotion of Project Playground as a royal endeavour while it was a private endeavour probably partly set up to change her image. Having a family member (her sister) work for such an organization that is sponsored/promoted by the royal family isn't the best move either. So, it's good that that is no longer the case.
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Old 07-21-2018, 08:14 PM
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https://www.whimn.com.au/talk/news/m...6e0fdee70a9038

A pretty silly article by Whimn, an Australian gossip site. In English.

It basically says that there may some controversy with Meghan, but we've someone who is more controversial, yippee!

I had considerable reservations about Sofia before she married Carl Phillip. However I'm happy to admit that she to my knowledge hasn't put a foot wrong, and apart from childish articles like this, her past really hasn't been that big an issue. (It helps that she's a secondary royal of course.)
It's all been remarkably discreet. Hardly know she's around. I will say marriage and motherhood agree with her. (Such handsome children!) She has bloomed. It helps that there is clear support from within the royal family, like from Madeleine. All looks solid.
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To some extent we can compare Sofia and Meghan. But her past has not been such a big problem (of course Carl Philip not being the first in the line of succession to the throne also helps).
But basically they just showed the photos she made for a magazine and talked about her having participated in the "Paradise Hotel".
Apparently the closest family to Sofia (father, mother and sisters) has been discreet and have never spoken publicly of her.

Meanwhile, Meghan has had a more difficult start. Her family does not leave her in peace and they have already spoken very ill of her.

But I like the way Sofia never reneged on her past. She has been discreet and did a good job. And it seems to me that Sofia was supported by the royal family. Sofia and Carl Philip make a lovely couple and their children are beautiful.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:35 PM
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Your comparison isn't fair at all.

You are comparing personal decisions vs family.

Sofia and Meghan's careers are not comparable. Sofia modeled nude and appeared in a very questionable reality show. Meghan, while yes she has had some scenes with nudity, is a serious actress.

Good or bad, Sofia CHOSE to model nude and appear on such shows. That she stands by her choices is good.

Meghan is stuck with her family. She has no control over her family, or any choice in them. No one does.

Comparing Sofia's questionable CHOICES to the family Meghan was BORN into is an unfair comparison at best
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I totally agree.

For me the most significant difference is that Meghan's social consciousness and charity work began very early in her life-some say even in childhood.

NOT after she met and began dating a Royal prince.
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