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Old 09-12-2016, 09:22 AM
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I recall SVT initially did not plan to broadcast Prince Nicolas' christening due to expense or enough royal programming last year. The SRF was surprised and bits of the christening would have been part of the "Royal year" review show until SVT changed its mind.

Not sure about Madeleine, but Chris O'Neill would have been OK with their kids being plain Leonore and Nicolas O'Neill. Their title and royal status may sort itself out in the future. They may marry without government consent or if they want to work for commercial companies. A clear policy on titles should be in place though. King CG's anxiety about succession is creating an awkward situation that CP Victoria will have to figure out later.

Back on topic, Prince Alexander's christening was lovely. Adorable kids. Sartorially, the ladies' outfits were mostly misses for me. Headbands and matronly ensembles, urg.

If Nicolas and Leonore are not raised in Sweden, they will lose their succession rights under the current Act of Succession. In the past,when Carl Gustaf's uncles for example were excluded from the line of succession, they also lost the title of "prince of Sweden" . It is unclear if the same rule would apply to Leonore and Nicolas.

I agree with you though that Sweden should have a law on membership of the Royal Family to clarify who is entitled to become a prince/princess of Sweden or not and avoid an inflation of princes over multiple generations. In Belgium, that is now regulated by Royal Decree with ministerial countersignature. Since the King of Sweden, however, can no longer issue royal decrees, the only way to regulate membership of the royal family, other than leaving it to the King's pleasure, would be by an act of parliament, as it is done BTW also in the Netherlands. I suspect though that this issue is not a priority at the moment for the Swedish government and that is probably why no specific legislation has been proposed or introduced yet.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:29 PM
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The Royal House Act in the Netherlands is the framework for the King to issue Royal Decrees about granting or loosing the membership, titles, etc. As the Royal Decrees are always referring to a specific article ("seen article 8 of the Royal House Act, considering that it is desirable to... Etc. Etc.") and is countersigned by a minister, the political responsibility for the King's decisions is taken by the minister, bearing accountability for Parliament.

Such a similar system would bring clarity and possibilities for the King "to organize His House"... Now it is more that the King informs about the titles of members of his family but there seems a bit of personal choice in this (the one has a title, the other not, the children of Mr O'Neill are Bernadottes, etc.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:54 PM
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The Royal House Act in the Netherlands is the framework for the King to issue Royal Decrees about granting or loosing the membership, titles, etc. As the Royal Decrees are always referring to a specific article ("seen article 8 of the Royal House Act, considering that it is desirable to... Etc. Etc.") and is countersigned by a minister, the political responsibility for the King's decisions is taken by the minister, bearing accountability for Parliament.

Such a similar system would bring clarity and possibilities for the King "to organize His House"... Now it is more that the King informs about the titles of members of his family but there seems a bit of personal choice in this (the one has a title, the other not, the children of Mr O'Neill are Bernadottes, etc.
What kind of possibilities are you thinking of? The King has complete freedom to grant or withdraw titles within the Royal Family.
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:03 PM
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Christening of Prince Alexander: September 9, 2016

Alexander was really attentive at his christening. He seemed to be really listening to the priest at the beginning of the ceremony and when the candle was being held in front of him.

In the picture with the grandparents he looks very sweet and cute.

What is the (hi)story behind the crowns used at these royal christenings?
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:10 PM
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What is the (hi)story behind the crowns used at these royal christenings?
Before Gustaf V abolished the tradition in 1907, every prince had their own crown which was worn at coronations and every year at the opening of the parliament. The crowns were introduced at the coronation of Gustaf III in 1772.

Today, the crowns are on display at christenings, weddings and funerals.
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:09 AM
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Duc et Pair, thanks for the information on the C of A. The heartshield is suppose to show the person's roots like Daniel's? When Sofia's comes out get ready for the internet memes.
Are you implying that there's something questionable about Sofia's (part Danish, might I just add) roots? And I wouldn't worry about internet memes. Most sensible people don't hang themselves in other people's harmless past. The sad remainder... well, they're generally not people one ought to pay attention to
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Old 09-14-2016, 03:32 AM
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Lovely picture of the little famly.

http://i.imgur.com/MHGo899.jpg
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:41 AM
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Lovely picture of the little famly.

http://i.imgur.com/MHGo899.jpg
just lovely
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2 months after the baptism of Prince Alexander of Sweden, Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia of Sweden sent a thanks postcard bearing the photo of Alexander to the guests who attended the baptism of their son, Alexander.

https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.n...6f&oe=58C13E93
https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.n...8e&oe=58D0E37B
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Aw, those are beautiful photos! Alexander is such a charming baby.
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For the christening of Prince Alexander, I like the historic items traditionally used during the christening: Prince Frederik Adolf's crown from 1771 and the Royal Order of the Seraphim created by King Frederick I in 1748.
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