Carl Philip and Sofia's Wedding: Suggestions and Musings


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I stumbled across the picture recently...am I missing something? I don't think she was married before. This may just be a modeling picture from back in the day, either way it might give some insight into how Sofia would look in a strapless wedding gown. I personally don't think she will go strapless, I'm more than positive some or all of her arms will be covered but I guess that's to be determined.

http://i59.tinypic.com/2nr3us6.jpg
 
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According to Svensk Damtidning the photo is from a release party in 2005.
 
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She looks very pretty. :flowers: Of course, she's young here. Still, she will be a beautiful bride.
 
On the cover of Svensk Damtidning
Sofia's secret
She has already chosen her wedding dress
The designer everybody is talking about
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On the cover of Svensk Damtidning
Sofia's secret
She has already chosen her wedding dress
The designer everybody is talking about
SDT1506_HiResFiles(1)

I'm hoping she goes with a figure hugging dress. :flowers: She has the figure and could pull it off.

So many royal brides have big, flouncy dresses. Such dresses are nice, make no mistake, but it would be nice to see something different for a change.
 
:previous: The biggest problem of a figure hugging or even a column gown in a royal wedding is, to be honest, it is inappropriate. If she is getting married in a cathedral or even a large church, she would look brash and be called vulgar and it is not as if there enough people already crying doom to the family for admitting someone who is, in their eyes, not fit to be there.

Whatever other consideration taken into account, her wedding is the one place where she sets the standard others will judge her by. She makes her mark and everyone else disects it Her wedding is the last place she needs to send the wrong sort of message.

We often talk about the difference between an evening gown and a gala gown, the same applies to wedding gowns. If it is a family and friends only wedding, then she can go slim and slinky. But, if it is a semi-state occasion then she goes large enough to not get lost walking up the aisle, elegant enough to have everyone nodding approval and romantic enough to win over the hardest of hearts and hopefully turn CP to mush.

It's a big ask but you only have to look at Victoria and Madeleine. There is no similarity whatsoever in their gowns. They are as different as night and day, just as the sisters are, and yet they both managed to express themselves in their choice of wedding gown while manageing to look exactly as we expected, romantic and in love so I can't wait to see what Sofia wears because I don't really have a sense of what her personal style is.

These are the evening looks I have seen so far:

http://royalweddings.hellomagazine....circle-fashion/0-8-221/sofia-hellqvist--z.jpgOh dear, shapeless sack!
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0b/91/9f/0b919f418ba5381a7116ab2748bcae82.jpg Lovely styling around the waist and bust.
http://w.cdn-expressen.se/images/29/40/2940a40d004f47618f7a9f3c2fa1174a/annan/965@70.jpgYellow is definitely not her colour, but the waist and bust/shoulders are beautifully emphasised
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...oSBUIogtjIb0JP_H2s_sA1CcpcJoCkTDi4RnMB9ZNTLER Much the same bust and shoulderline as above.
http://www.glamour.com/images/fashion/2014/10/sofia-hellqvist-black-lace-dress-h724.jpg Shiney and just not her in some way? Sort of plastic.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...rWASKjVcYLjowpt3O1to8eMfPrklWko4cDFJJflsQN06g Ghastly colour and not keen on the overall style but the waist and bustline are once again beautifully accentuated.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/...V3DTtdIKytiZ_QrNmLNqTJPpv_iRKZxwK6NThl45lLwOw Madam Zorah wants her lace back to decorate the Tarot Tent!
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...9N4RER68dapWjJKlX7E6268J018NlwyOyKLnrHWXmGiec Oh dear, yet another shapeless sack in a colour that drains the life out of her.

So, there is no main theme there except maybe the bust and waist, so I guess we wait and see.
 
Who is the designer?

Of course they don't know that.
Svensk Damtidning writes in it's article, that Sofia has made her decision and there is one very lucky designer who already is working with the dress...
There are a lot of rumours in Sweden and many say that it will be Pär Engsheden (who designed Victoria's wedding dress and Victoria's gorgeous red dress to Nobel 2014), another designer who is at the guesses is Ida Sjöstedt. And Ida Lanto is the third name said. They are all Swedes.
Svensk Damtidning has asked from 10 people involved in fashion (stylists, fashion editors and designers), what kind of dress it will be and who will be the designer. Some say that the dress will have long sleeves, some say that it will be classical. The names mostly mentioned are Engsheden, Sjöstedt and Lanto. But there are also mentioned Phoebe Philo, Isabel Marant, Delpozo, Wilhja, Valentino, Zuhair Murad, Elie Saab. Many think/hope that Sofia will choose a swedish designer.
 
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The biggest problem of a figure hugging or even a column gown in a royal wedding is, to be honest, it is inappropriate.

I've never heard this, and if it is a held-belief out there, I think it's high time such constraints were breached. ;) Anyway, I've never heard of such, and I'm around a lot of church-types, being a church-goer myself.

If she is getting married in a cathedral or even a large church, she would look brash and be called vulgar

I have to disagree. :flowers: This idea is foreign to me. A figure hugging gown, done well (as it would be!), can create the most stunning and elegant impression in a large space, especially with flowers and crowns, veils and trains.

and it is not as if there enough people already crying doom to the family for admitting someone who is, in their eyes, not fit to be there.

It seems you are suggesting that if Sofia shows herself to be a sexual being she will be pilloried. A bit like Pippa's bum? Are you saying that? I don't think anyone faults her for being passionate or attractive. Objections to her are rooted in quite other concerns (imo) but need not be gone into here, of course. Dressing well, and in her own style, can only make her more authentic. I'm looking forward to something dramatic and every ounce her, not what she thinks she should wear to be 'acceptable'.

Whatever other consideration taken into account, her wedding is the one place where she sets the standard others will judge her by. She makes her mark and everyone else disects it Her wedding is the last place she needs to send the wrong sort of message.

I don't think a 'column gown' is the 'wrong sort of message'. :unsure: It's hard to figure out what you mean. Princess Charlene of Monaco wore a 'column gown' at her wedding and looked every inch the princess. No 'wrong message' was conveyed. Methinks you worry too much. :flowers:
 
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:previous: Methinks Charlene had a chapel train on her "coloumn" gown and very wide aisles to allow for the width of her large and wide train and veil!

We all looked at the whole thing, the dress, the train on the dress, the train from the shoulder's and a not insubstantial veil.

http://askmissa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Princess-Charlene-Wedding-Dress.jpg
http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/wenn3422457.jpg
http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagen...ne-prince-albert-wedding/0-72-863/veil--a.jpg

Charlene's gown basically loosely fitted to the waist and flaired almost A Line from just over her hip line.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Prince+Albert+II+Princess+Charlene+Monaco+DeAZkihlN53l.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bd/c2/f8/bdc2f8797076e40d7b2f281badb1c3bd.jpg

Charlene's gown was not, in any shape or form, figure hugging! That being said, with a different neckline and train Sofia could really work it.
 
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I cannot see how Charlene's dress was figure hugging or column
Column to me is straight from top to bottom


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I have the feeling a certain dislike towards Ms Hellqvist is colouring your judgement. In my personal opinion Ms Hellqvist can look very poised and stylish and I have no doubt that on her big day, she will look every inch a lady.
 
:previous: The biggest problem of a figure hugging or even a column gown in a royal wedding is, to be honest, it is inappropriate. If she is getting married in a cathedral or even a large church, she would look brash and be called vulgar and it is not as if there enough people already crying doom to the family for admitting someone who is, in their eyes, not fit to be there.

you are right marg, i can only imagine the criticism she would get should she choose a figure hugging dress - me included. given her past background, i think she will try her wedding dress to be as classic, demure and elegant as possible.

you missed these two other evening gowns of sofia, the first quite nice, the second one nothing special:

Sofia and Carl Philip in matching outfits at gala | Royalista
Swedish Royals step out for Swedish Academy formal gathering | Kate Middleton Review
 
I am sure that Sofia's wedding gown will be perfect for her on that day as she will have been given wonderful professional advise. The people that like her will love it. The people that thinks differently about her will hate it. Just how people are and in the long run will not affect her and Carl Philip one bit.
 
I am sure that Sofia's wedding gown will be perfect for her on that day as she will have been given wonderful professional advise. The people that like her will love it. The people that thinks differently about her will hate it. Just how people are and in the long run will not affect her and Carl Philip one bit.

Exactly, it'll be there day and I'm looking forward to it.
 
I have the feeling a certain dislike towards Ms Hellqvist is colouring your judgement.

Who are you addressing? :huh:

In my personal opinion Ms Hellqvist can look very poised and stylish and I have no doubt that on her big day, she will look every inch a lady.

Even in a figure-hugging gown. :flowers: (As did Pippa btw).
 
. . . . . you missed these two other evening gowns of sofia, the first quite nice, the second one nothing special:

Sofia and Carl Philip in matching outfits at gala | Royalista
Swedish Royals step out for Swedish Academy formal gathering | Kate Middleton Review
Thank you so much, I was so set on finding the ones I remembered and quite forgot these two.

I wasn't much of a fan of the odd black and white but the dark blue had distinct possibilities some of which may have centred around a fabulous updo. In fact, I am sure I have seen someone wear it or something really like it. I didn't like the way the folds over the shoulder were spread out, in fact I would go so far as to say it would have looked better completely off the shoulder. What was interesting was that the shoulder peices seemed to have absolutely no tension at all, which leads me to suspect that the gown was fitted and possibly even couture

The one thing that did strike me was how lovely the sweetheart neckline is on her and how it flattered her shape and size. So, maybe a wedding gown with a sweetheart neckline.
 
I have not been keen on some of Sofia's past choice of outfits in previous years, however on her wedding day I somehow see that she will wear something elegant.
 
Will their wedding be broadcasted?
 
:previous: Methinks Charlene had a chapel train on her "coloumn" gown and very wide aisles to allow for the width of her large and wide train and veil!

We all looked at the whole thing, the dress, the train on the dress, the train from the shoulder's and a not insubstantial veil.

http://askmissa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Princess-Charlene-Wedding-Dress.jpg
http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/wenn3422457.jpg
http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagen...ne-prince-albert-wedding/0-72-863/veil--a.jpg

Charlene's gown basically loosely fitted to the waist and flaired almost A Line from just over her hip line.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Prince+Albert+II+Princess+Charlene+Monaco+DeAZkihlN53l.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bd/c2/f8/bdc2f8797076e40d7b2f281badb1c3bd.jpg

Charlene's gown was not, in any shape or form, figure hugging! That being said, with a different neckline and train Sofia could really work it.


Goodness, Charlene was an incredible bride! One of my personal Most Beautiful Royal Brides, definitely in the top ten!
 
:previous: You will get no argument from me on that because I totally agree. but just looking at the visual definition of "figure hugging" and I absolutely do not see that Charlene's gown.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...lIdnnwc4M5GBahFeuiiOI71F-kY55PM0r-7cyi2g6MgJw

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...I-kwfshUCB4I7eK5hVNP7ccbYYTQ-vADMUS6eXOKpkgD7

Versus

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibt...-daughter-princess-charlene.jpg?itok=nTlO8w9t

http://www.luxurybrideonline.com.au...ni-wedding-dress-albert-de-monaco-wedding.jpg

Charlene's gown was amazing, but it was amazing because you could see the by the cut and style was it was all Charlene and she was a very beautiful bride.

I haven't really got a handle of exactly what Sofia's personal style is, yet! I only know that she looks really good with a "sweetheart" neckline but I can't nail down any particular style that would say, "Sofia", or more importantly, Princess Sofia of Sweden.
 
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Just to add my shilling to the discussion, I think a dress along the lines of Princess Charlene's would be fine for Sofia and certainly not inappropriate. Some of the styles back in the 1920,s and 1930's were quite figure forming (as opposed to figure hugging) such as Princess Marina and later her daughter, Princess Alexandra. Charlene is very tall and I think Sofia is much shorter (any one know for sure how tall Sofia is?), so certain adjustments to the cut and style would have to be made.

Like Marg, I too haven't quite got the measure of Sofia's style, although it seems quite modern, quite simple in style generally, though edgy at times.

I'm going to go with a 20's/30's style for Sofia, maybe in lace - or maybe a lace version of Charlene's dress but without the detachable train.
 
Will their wedding be broadcasted?

I think so. I doubt they wont, since they broadcasted Madeleine's one.

But there are also mentioned Phoebe Philo, Isabel Marant, Delpozo, Wilhja, Valentino, Zuhair Murad, Elie Saab. Many think/hope that Sofia will choose a swedish designer.
If she is smart, she will.
 
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Just to add my shilling to the discussion, I think a dress along the lines of Princess Charlene's would be fine for Sofia and certainly not inappropriate. Some of the styles back in the 1920,s and 1930's were quite figure forming (as opposed to figure hugging) such as Princess Marina and later her daughter, Princess Alexandra. Charlene is very tall and I think Sofia is much shorter (any one know for sure how tall Sofia is?), so certain adjustments to the cut and style would have to be made.

Like Marg, I too haven't quite got the measure of Sofia's style, although it seems quite modern, quite simple in style generally, though edgy at times.

I'm going to go with a 20's/30's style for Sofia, maybe in lace - or maybe a lace version of Charlene's dress but without the detachable train.
The 20s wedding dresses are not very flattering for the body (look at the Queen Mother...) and are quite "simple" by todays standards (no train, no volume). I am not so sure about how a 30s gown looks. The waist is higher, right? That is more flattering to me at least..

I agree that there probably will be a rather simple dress. Maybe lace parts but not to much. I wonder if something like Mette-Marits dress would be to her taste? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6c/f2/2d/6cf22dbcac2d28c15ce303a0e6c70ee0.jpg At least the angelic skirt? It's such a nice flow but still keeping it simple.

I really, really, really hope she wears a Swedish design. I think it's the most fitting, graceful and honoring decision she can make.

Flowers, food and music I think they might incorporate both his Dukedom and also Dalarna where she comes from.
 
I hope Sofia does NOT choose a 20s/30s style gown. They're awful, IMO, as most of them look like nightwear.
 
I'm sure there wedding will be broadcast LIVE as his sisters' were.
 
I hope Sofia does NOT choose a 20s/30s style gown. They're awful, IMO, as most of them look like nightwear.
In my mind they can be very beautiful, especially with embroidery on. But they tend to look too bohemian for a big royal wedding.
 
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