Willem-Alexander and Máxima: News and Pictures: July 2003-May 2004

[sky]

I was in the norway royal family part of the forum and the topic turmed to maxima. Alot of people dont like saying that something abot her is fishy, even some dutch people. I like her but what do you think?
Also i was on a spanish website about maxima and they spelled her name maximum and i was just wondering if thats the spanish version and if it's pornouced like the car.

Where on the message board did you read about Maxima? this seams to be a no-no subject, interesting...i would have thought that the obviously more than detailed discussion of members of the royal family made a critical approach possible from time to time.

[Julia]

Perhaps I have been under the wrong impression, but I thought the Dutch were very fond of their princess. What was being said?

I am quite fond of Maxima and think she's a breath of fresh air.

[sky]

I like her too. i was in Les Tribunes Royales Norway, and in "Should Marius Be Given The Title Prince?". The maxima topic started when someone said that W-A and Haakon could of pick better wives. There isnt alot of maxima in the norway forum as i thought, but i was in someother fourm( days before) and someone said that something is fishy about her and another person whose dutch said he was 'nt one of the dutch people crazy about her, that she does nothing for the people and will never speak dutch right because it's not her mother tongue. Also since her father was part of the junta(sp) blood is on her hands too. And another person said that the heir should just be dutch and not latino. But ever since her marriage to W-A, i've become more interstead in her navtie country, i was watching the movie " Evtia" today does'nt maxima remind you of her.

[sara1981]

I like Maxima she beautiful Princess, blonde like as Princess Diana! she is Dutch Princess!

Sara Boyce

[thissal]

Interesting question Sky. The impression I get from both Maxima and Mette-Merit is that they don't genuinely enjoy the princess routine; it causes them undue stress. Similarly, Prince William obviously doesn't enjoy being a prince, but Prince Harry does. It is too bad that the role can't go to people who want and would actually enjoy the royal lifestyle under the constant spotlight.

[Alexandria]

Originally posted by thissal@Jul 31st, 2003 - 12:44 pm
The impression I get from both Maxima and Mette-Merit is that they don't genuinely enjoy the princess routine; it causes them undue stress.

Actually, I got the opposite impression from Maxima. I think she rather enjoys being in the spotlight and the attention she gets -- most of the time any how. I think she doesn't like it when she has is not prepared for it or when she is with her family or shopping and "candid" pictures of her are snapped, which is quite understandable. I'd feel the same in her position. But when she's dolled herself up and looks smashing (most of the time!) I think she quite likes the attention and the camera's flashes.

Mette-Marit on the other hand seems to dislike it all the time, whether she is prepared or not. It all seems to be quite the nuissance for her.

[nicole]

I think it's really sad that there are people that have issues that Maxima is not "Dutch" enough or that she's Latin or whatever rubbish they want to say. I consider that to be racism and prejudice and I think that it's just wrong that people are judging her that way. Also what her father did had NOTHING to do with her. She shouldn't have to carry the wrong doing of her father. Prince W-A and the Queen seem to think so too.

I think she's a wonderful princess no matter what her hair color is--she would be just as great if she were a brunette--I think she's her own special person and I think the Dutch people are VERY lucky to have her as their princess.

I remember when Queen Noor became a queen in Jordan the people thought that she wasn't Arabic enough or that she was not of pure Arabic blood and therefore should not be their queen--but Noor did so much amazing things in and for Jordan and I think it's a real shame that so many people spent so much time judging how she's different to them than seeing what great things she was doing for her and their country.

So please let's stop this prejudice--we are more alike than different, the world is getting smaller, more people from different countries/cultures/races are starting to mix and if we don't realize the great in that--well then it's just sad for those people that will not accept people that are a little bit different because if we were all the same then it would be a very boring planet.

Please don't' take this as an attach because that's not my intention--it just really bothers me when I hear people say that someone is not good enough because they don't physically fit the mold that some people have set for them.

Nicole

[thissal]

Originally posted by Alexandria@Aug 1st, 2003 - 5:48 am
But when she's dolled herself up and looks smashing (most of the time!) I think she quite likes the attention and the camera's flashes.

Mette-Marit on the other hand seems to dislike it all the time, whether she is prepared or not. It all seems to be quite the nuissance for her.

I can see where Maxima likes the attention much of the time. I was thinking about how she said one time all the pomp and circumstance associated with royalty was bizarre--when first exposed to it. I'd have to agree with her. It would totally freak me out -- liking my privacy as I do.

Of course Mette-Marit has learned to dislike it perhaps due to all the vicious criticism she had to endure just because she fell in love with someone. She had to be treated for severe depression as a result of this before she married the prince. People can be so thoughtless in how mean they are sometimes. :(

[thissal]

Originally posted by nicole@Aug 1st, 2003 - 11:04 pm
I think it's really sad that there are people that have issues that Maxima is not "Dutch" enough or that she's Latin or whatever rubbish they want to say.

This is rubbish because most of royalty are from foreign lands, or at least they used to be. This is because of the demand that they only marry into royalty, and to marry royalty within their own country would come too close to incest. (Not only that, but royalty is often thought of as other-worldly due to the devine right of kings or some nonsense like that making them beyond human.)

This became obvious when I was surprised to learn the Greek royal family had no Greek blood, even after ~150 years, but then learned this is the norm among various royal families rather than the exception. It could be the Dutch royal family has little to no real Dutch blood either. I think I heard there is not a real Dane in the Danish royal family. Norway has one of the few royal families with genuine Norwegian blood, and see how much criticism they got in the process. B)

[paulette]

I really admire them talk about how strong are they amidst of criticisms...For me they are my favorites.. Bravery is one of the ingredients to make a nearly perfect Princess though...

[Helena]

well....as a dutch woman, I must say that the general impression of Maxima in our country is VERY postive...
she is even by far the most popular royal according to the opinion polls...and almost all people who are speaking about her realy like her...het spontanity...her excellent knowledge of the dutch language etc. She is behaving very natural...and does not seem uncomfortable with all the attention of the public and the press...and her radiant smile looks genuine & she looks genuinely interested in the peolpe that she meet....although SOME dutch persons had there reserves about Maxima in the beginning....since her engagement...almost no negative remarks about her are made in the press...and even 'on the street'....

[Julia]

Hello Helena and thank you for your comments. It's wonderful to hear that the Dutch are proud of their new princess. All of my Dutch friends have had nothing but good, positive things to say about her. She's really wonderful.

[Robbert]

I'm proud that Maxima will become queen of our country. She's the best!
:P

[Chanel]

I think it is wonderful that you all are facing your opinions on the Princess. Good ones of course! A few opositions, but, the ,ajority are in good words. I didn't realize that it either came out or was noticed that Maxima didnt really enjoy being a Princess as much!! Matte-Marit? I could see that. It is obvious that Maxima is completly in love with her Willem........ Matte-Marit, I will keep tight lipped about that opinion.


Chanel

[thissal]

Originally posted by chanel@Aug 19th, 2003 - 8:48 pm
It is obvious that Maxima is completly in love with her Willem........ Matte-Marit, I will keep tight lipped about that opinion.


Chanel

That's one way to say A LOT without appearing to say anything. Neat trick.

You may as well speak your mind. It couldn't be any worse than now expected.

[Chanel]

:)

[sky]

Does any1 know how tall Maxima is (if yoy do can you put it in feet? I think M-M does love Hakkon(sp). Does anyone know any good maxima sites in english? Also does anyone know why stories write Cp princess Maxima Zorreguieta? And for the dutch people, have you heard this story about max missing argentina and family, she feeling like princess Di and she's now talking with her Ex or something?

[The Watcher]

gossip mags.....ppppfffffffffffffffff..... That story is bull****, Maxima is not running back to Argentina, don't be afraid. I think the writer in the gossip-mag have a dream about that and write it down in his magazine (forget it was not the true..) B) B)

[Alexandria]

Originally posted by The Watcher@Aug 26th, 2003 - 9:57 am
gossip mags.....ppppfffffffffffffffff..... That story is *!@%&, Maxima is not running back to Argentina, don't be afraid. I think the writer in the gossip-mag have a dream about that and write it down in his magazine (forget it was not the true..) B) B)

I don't think it's ture that Maxima is running back to Argentina any time soon, but I do think she misses her family and homeland very much. Where you grew up can be such a part of you and who you are, Maxima had to sacrifice a lot (and she gained a lot, too) to marry Willem and be the CP of the Netherlands.

She's had to make this transition and all these changes without her family at her side. I don't know if Maxima and her parents and siblings are close, but they seem to be close enough for her to miss them desperately. Espescially now, with a baby on the way, you find you long for your own family very much.

When you think about Maxima, you think how lucky say Mathilde and Mette-Marit are. Although all three women have undertaken similar roles in their various countries, Mathilde and Mette-Marit are "natives" of the countries they will be the future Queens of. There was no cultural adjustment for either of them even if there was an adjustment in roles and lifestyles. And both of the women are lucky enough to have their families at the side (or in MM's case, her mother.) I think Mary may perhaps experience homesickness, too, if she marries Frederik. Did Alexandra ever feel homesick when she left Hong Kong to marry Joachim?