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Old 12-25-2018, 12:19 PM
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Christmas is the annual Christian festival celebrating Christ's birth and these poker faces convey nothing about Christmas. Very odd. Perhaps their public appearances like this should attempt to enter the spirit regardless of their private lives.
But the pictures of the Waleses, the Cambridges, the Sussexes, the Borbóns, etc. had no any Christmas theme either. In older days the cards showed something from Rembrandt, Caravaggio, Breughel, Velásquez, etc. with a Nativity scène or the Annunciation.
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Red Christmas?

"marx engels lenin stalin mao poster" - just google it!


I don't like the christmas card at all!
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"marx engels lenin stalin mao poster" - just google it!


I don't like the christmas card at all!
On the façade of the 17th C city hall in The Hague is a latin inscription: Ne Jupiter Quidem Omnibus Placet (Even Jupiter Can Not Please Everyone).

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King Willem Alexander and Queen Maxima reported that Thursday night with President Mauricio Macri and his wife Juliana Awada shared a dinner at Villa La Angostura.
It seems the family spent the holidays in Argentina

https://www.clarin.com/politica/maur...zQ7Ptwuxi.html

https://www.lmneuquen.com/macri-reci...ostura-n619533
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:36 AM
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King Willem Alexander and Queen Maxima reported that Thursday night with President Mauricio Macri and his wife Juliana Awada shared a dinner at Villa La Angostura.
It seems the family spent the holidays in Argentina

https://www.clarin.com/politica/maur...zQ7Ptwuxi.html

https://www.lmneuquen.com/macri-reci...ostura-n619533
According to the news, dinner was on Wednesday. Should not the girls have returned to school on Monday? If parents and school have no problems with them losing several days of school for the holidays, then the school is not the cause of Amalia not attending official activities such as the christening of the dredger that would only take a couple of hours.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:09 AM
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According to the news, dinner was on Wednesday. Should not the girls have returned to school on Monday? If parents and school have no problems with them losing several days of school for the holidays, then the school is not the cause of Amalia not attending official activities such as the christening of the dredger that would only take a couple of hours.
The dinner was with the royal couple only, I believe. The princesses Amalia, Alexia and Ariane most likely were at school. That is the advantage of having free travel at your disposal...
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:21 AM
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King Willem Alexander and Queen Maxima reported that Thursday night with President Mauricio Macri and his wife Juliana Awada shared a dinner at Villa La Angostura.
It seems the family spent the holidays in Argentina

https://www.clarin.com/politica/maur...zQ7Ptwuxi.html

https://www.lmneuquen.com/macri-reci...ostura-n619533
Spending their holidsys in Argentina was to be expected based on their schedule of celebrating Christmas in Argentina every other year. However, this year they also had their move from the Eikenhorst to Huis ten Bosch scheduled for the Christmas holidays, so appsrently they managed to combine the two but needed more than the princesses' 2 week break.
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Spending their holidsys in Argentina was to be expected based on their schedule of celebrating Christmas in Argentina every other year. However, this year they also had their move from the Eikenhorst to Huis ten Bosch scheduled for the Christmas holidays, so appsrently they managed to combine the two but needed more than the princesses' 2 week break.
The royals can be in Dubai today, in Montreal tomorrow and in Tokyo the day after. What is a trip from Maastricht to Amsterdam for us, that is a trip from The Hague to Athens for them.

Whether the three princesses were in Argentina or not, I am sure the parents have carefully checked everything with the schools. A public outcry about assumed privileged holidays for the princesses is the last thing they want.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:03 AM
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The dinner was with the royal couple only, I believe. The princesses Amalia, Alexia and Ariane most likely were at school. That is the advantage of having free travel at your disposal...
"Participaron de la cena el rey Guillermo de Holanda y las tres hijas de la pareja real." / "King William and the three daughters of the royal couple participated in the dinner."

https://www.clarin.com/politica/maur...zQ7Ptwuxi.html
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The royals can be in Dubai today, in Montreal tomorrow and in Tokyo the day after. What is a trip from Maastricht to Amsterdam for us, that is a trip from The Hague to Athens for them.

Whether the three princesses were in Argentina or not, I am sure the parents have carefully checked everything with the schools. A public outcry about assumed privileged holidays for the princesses is the last thing they want.
Hmm, a public outcry in this case is justified imo. There is no need to go on holiday during the Christmas break. They go on holiday in summer, will be on a ski holiday in february. So, if they couldn't go on a christmas holiday this time because of the move, they could have skipped instead of being in Argenrina when the schools already started.

And it's not the first time that they do so although the last time they took their daughters out of school outside of school breaks (without a justified reason) was many years ago.
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The Christmas break was week 52 and week 1. A holiday in Argentina is not so strange. Máxima's mother and the princesses' grandmother, who recently lost her husband and her youngest daughter, lives there. The article mentions 22 December, which was in the school break indeed:

https://www.google.nl/amp/www.diario...gostura?espv=1
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The Christmas break was week 52 and week 1. A holiday in Argentina is not so strange. Máxima's mother and the princesses' grandmother, who recently lost her husband and her youngest daughter, lives there. The article mentions 22 December, which was in the school break indeed:

https://www.google.nl/amp/www.diario...gostura?espv=1
Of course a holiday in Argentina is perfectly normal (they go to Argentina every other year for Christmas) but should take place during school breaks. Máxima's mother is not limited to school breaks, so if the family couldn't travel to Argentina during the school break because of their move, she could have come over to the Netherlands.

The article does actually mention that the dinner took placd on Wednesday (so Januaey 9) at the end of the president's holidays which started on December 22. So, the princesses -if indeed present- will most likely have missed a full week of school.
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Just saw the weekly royalty program "Blauw Bloed" and the attendance of the princesses was not confirmed. They mentioned their school too. Only the royal couple was more or less confirmed as guests of President and Mrs Macri "according Argentine media".
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Hmm, a public outcry in this case is justified imo.
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And it's not the first time that they do so although the last time they took their daughters out of school outside of school breaks (without a justified reason) was many years ago.
Many would consider visiting a widowed grandmother (who lives half a world away and who has endured the death of both her husband and her daughter within the last year)...a justified reason.

It’s hard to imagine a huge public outcry over this. Sometimes you have to do what’s right for your family regardless of what others think or say.

And apparently permission may be granted once per school year for exceptional circumstances. This would seem to qualify.
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Many would consider visiting a widowed grandmother (who lives half a world away and who has endured the death of both her husband and her daughter within the last year)...a justified reason.

It’s hard to imagine a huge public outcry over this. Sometimes you have to do what’s right for your family regardless of what others think or say.

And apparently permission may be granted once per school year for exceptional circumstances. This would seem to qualify.
From my view, it's pretty simple. It is against the law to not attend school when of a certain age. And no, according to the Dutch law (leerplichtwet) this case is not within the 'circumstances' that would qualify for an exception regarding to 'going on holiday outside of school breaks'. They are especially strict regarding the days before or after school breaks to make sure parents don't extend holidays (which mainly used to happen to avoid the traffic). The only qualifying reason would be if they were not able to go on holiday any other time of the year because their parents would be working all school breaks. That is clearly not the case. They go on holiday extensively throughout the year. Most likely they will be on ski holiday next month, so they could have used that week to go to Argentina instead.

The second reason is 'special occasion' this has been interpreted to refer to family occasions such as weddings and funerals (for which they indeed were given days off) when their grandfather passed away and last year when their aunt had died. Visiting your grandmother in the new year cannot be considered a 'special occasion'.

They had 2 weeks holiday break, so should have used that time to visit their grandmother if that was their priority (which I would fully understand). If other reasons (such as a move) prevented that, their grandmother could easily have come over to the Netherlands to visit them as she has done many times in the past.

So, IF (and it seems that although Argentinian media report it, it is still up in the air) the princesses missed a week of school that would be against the law. I assume the king and queen did discuss it with the schools' directors - in which case the directors of the two schools would have granted permission but unjustifiable. We'll have to see whether the municipal attendance officers will look into this issue (seems unlikely given that it pertains to the king and queen).

I might sound harsh but my stance is that the Dutch royal family should be held to the exact same standards as other Dutch families with children of school age. In the past they have taken liberty with these rules mostly when the girls were much younger (but old enough that this law would apply to them; which is from the month starting after their 5th birthday, although almost all children start school at 4).
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But it still not clear if the princesses were in Argentina, last week. No any Dutch royal correspondent has confirmed it. Not Marc van der Linden from Royalty Online, not Justine Marcella from Vorsten Royale, not Jeroen Snel from Blauw Bloed, not Piet van Asseldonk from NOS.nl, not Peter van de Vorst from RTL, not Evert Santegoeds from SBS, also not in their Twitter feeds.
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The royals can be in Dubai today, in Montreal tomorrow and in Tokyo the day after. What is a trip from Maastricht to Amsterdam for us, that is a trip from The Hague to Athens for them.

Whether the three princesses were in Argentina or not, I am sure the parents have carefully checked everything with the schools. A public outcry about assumed privileged holidays for the princesses is the last thing they want.
Indeed!And a public outcry??Oh really?The only "public outcry"would be here on this forum by some.But no worries,they were in school and this weekend and start of the coming week they all unpack boxes and what not as they've moved into Huis ten Bosch Palace only now.Gracias.

Btw,never believe Argentinian "press"just rags even worse then the Brits,nada mas.
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And just what might the penalty be for disobeying these standards? (I have read that there are fines assessed on UK families under similar circumstances, and these can be substantial.)

And I think the term is “justified reason” rather than “exceptional circumstances”, although the terms are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
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And just what might the penalty be for disobeying these standards? (I have read that there are fines assessed on UK families under similar circumstances, and these can be substantial.)

And I think the term is “justified reason” rather than “exceptional circumstances”, although the terms are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Read my post above please.The girls were in school.

And yes,the fines are / can be considerable,100 euro (- at least- ) per child per day.
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