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Old 04-27-2014, 02:57 PM
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wow surprised that now she is Queen Maxima has time to travel that far she seems to have been mega busy so far!
Wassenaar-The Hague should be possible in two hours by car if there arent any traffic jams.
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:04 PM
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i'm surprised that she has to travel to a fashion designer and that a fashion designer wouldn't travel to her.
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:19 PM
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Wassenaar-The Hague should be possible in two hours by car if there arent any traffic jams.

Wassenaar-The Hague could be done in half an hour
Otherwise that would be a super traffic jam.

The Hague-Brussels could be done by car in approximately 3 1/2 hours
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:30 PM
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Wassenaar-The Hague could be done in half an hour
Otherwise that would be a super traffic jam.

The Hague-Brussels could be done by car in approximately 3 1/2 hours
Maybe Den-Haag/Wassenaar is 2 hours if she uses the golden carriage (that would be a sight )
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:36 PM
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hehe, maybe they should give it a try.
But yes I meant Wassenaar-Brussels. According to routenet.nl it is 2 hours, but I have never driven it myself as I usually take the train so it may be longer indeed, esp. considering the traffic.

Anyway, it is safe to assume HM will clear out a day for such a visit. It must take some time to get the outfits right. Vermeulen says she visited him twice a year usually. One of the big advantages of his brand is that he offers a total package, in a tandem with hatmaker Fabienne Delvigne. See the interview of Els Smit with Vermeulen (Dutch only): Royal Glitter Interview: Edouard Vermeulen
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:44 PM
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Anyway it was a lovely occasion to see the fast complete royal family.
Well the next family reunion would be the christening of Princess Zita Clara de Bourbon de Parme and her unborn cousin Brenninkmeijer.

The next time they should indeed take the TGV
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Old 04-28-2014, 11:16 AM
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I suppose that the son of Floris and Aimee still needs to be baptised too? But it seems that they wait until the boy can walk to the baptismal font himself.

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In the mean time.. the family has an empty agenda as there it is a school holiday. The king and queen will attend the national remembrance and liberation events later this week though.
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Old 04-28-2014, 11:21 AM
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I'm not sure this is the right thread, but don't The Dutch Royal Family come out for big national holiday on April 30, or am I mistaken?
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Old 04-28-2014, 11:34 AM
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If you mean the King's Day, it already happened on the 26th. It's the following thread:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...een-33971.html
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Old 04-28-2014, 11:40 AM
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I heard that Willem Jan van Vollenhoven will probably be baptized after the summer holidays.
That is August/September 2014.
No official announcement.
So I suppose that the Bourbon de Parme children will be baptized before their van Vollenhoven cousin.
They are Roman Catholics and the van Vollenhoven branch is protestant.
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Thanks for that info!

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The ombuds(wo)man / public advocate of newspaper the 'Volkskrant' wrote a very angry article in her own newspaper about her own newspaper. The newspaper published a letter that was sent to them by a reader. The letter contained among other things derogatory comments about the three princesses on Kingsday. It focussed on their weight, dresses, and skintone.

The ombudsman is angry at her own newspaper for publishing such a letter and says that the responsibility lies first and foremost with the editor of this section of the newspaper. She is worried that such remarks will trouble the daughters of the king at school for example.

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Thanks for that info!

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The ombuds(wo)man / public advocate of newspaper the 'Volkskrant' wrote a very angry article in her own newspaper about her own newspaper. The newspaper published a letter that was sent to them by a reader. The letter contained among other things derogatory comments about the three princesses on Kingsday. It focussed on their weight, dresses, and skintone.

The ombudsman is angry at her own newspaper for publishing such a letter and says that the responsibility lies first and foremost with the editor of this section of the newspaper. She is worried that such remarks will trouble the daughters of the king at school for example.

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Good for her!! She's dead on target w/her comments too.
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wow, what they coud say about the colour of their skin? my goodness are white girls! and how they dare to publish something like that hope the parents shield them from that!
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Erm, not too sure what you are trying to say here?

I think the media have a duty to keep their "personal" comments about children, any children, to themselves. The rules of adult fashion critique do not apply and as to what they were wearing, well "if they couldn't print something nice they ought to have printed nothing at all". And in this case they printed a letter and merrily provided a photo just in case anyone missed the point.

Bullying is ugly and let's face it, when it comes to fashion and clothing, the York Princesses have been the butt of many a joke and vicious comments about their sense of fashion or more devastingly, their weight. They, unfortunately, were young girls, adolescents and teenagers before the movement against bullying really got under way and the law had teeth. Their young lives were littered with cruel bullying given a "Voice" by the media. Note, these girls are not exactly the first in line to the throne.

Princess's Amalia, Alexia and Ariane are numbers one, two and three in line to the throne and that is not going to change for a very long time. Certainly not before their collective majority (barring tragedy). What a stirling example this paper has provided that their Crown Princess can now become their very own poster child for Bullying Victims.

Bottom line: Hands off all kids, as the Ombudswoman said: "Even princesses can be bullied and hurt". I
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The comment was not made by "the media" as such but in a section where the general public can express their opinion; where should the media draw the line in chosing which comments to publish or not...isn't this all part of "freedom of speech"?
On these forums "freedom of speech" is often used as an excuse in saying all kinds of things about people, this is no different from an opinion sent in by a reader of a newspaper.

Imo Freedom of speech is a great prerogative, but it shouldn't mean that anyone should say whatever they want at whatever time and place they want, there is also such a thing as common decency, which a lot of people tend to forget nowadays.

The letter-writer who didn't like the look of the princesses cloths was rebuffed later by other letter-writers; isn't that exactly how it should work?
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that's horrible behaviour, to attack 3 children in such a public manner. how sad that person must be to channel her energy to attack kids.


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wow, what they coud say about the colour of their skin? my goodness are white girls!
what do you mean ashelen? to me this implies that if they weren't white something would be wrong with them / they would deserve to be bashed for their skin colour? really? is such comment necessary? i really don't know what you meant here, but it definitely sounds completely wrong to me.
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What was said about color (by the letter-writer) was that "pale-beige is not a good color for three rather colorless girls"; not a sweet comment, but stated this way (and in a dutch setting) this is not aimed at their skin-color, but rather to be explained as "the one who chose the dresses should have chosen brighter colors" and with a possible sneer to a colorless personality, which is ofcourse unfair because we tend to not see the girls enough to judge their personality, but still has nothing to do with skincolor as such..
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The main problem was that in a published letter to the editor the three children were criticized for their looks (with hints to Amalia being fat). Luckily a storm of criticism came over the author of the letter. At the same time the Ombudswoman of the newspaper criticized the own editorial staff for publishing such a letter because three defenceless children were exposed to public criticism, even more defenceless because as children of the King they are under ministerial responsibility, meaning that -for an example- a hypothetic lawsuit should be 'covered' by the government. All by all unwanted by-effects. The main point was that not adults in the public eye were criticized but children.
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particularly because these children did not chose their role in life... if for instance an 11 year old takes part in a talent-show against adults, it would not be fair if they were judged on a different scale than the adult-competitors, but in that case they had made the choice to participate...
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what do you mean ashelen? to me this implies that if they weren't white something would be wrong with them / they would deserve to be bashed for their skin colour? really? is such comment necessary? i really don't know what you meant here, but it definitely sounds completely wrong to me.

No, I think the OP was just trying to say that there's nothing to discuss regarding the princesses' skin - ie, how could someone criticize the girls for being 'colorless,' when they're just normal (white) girls? I think there's just a language barrier here.
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