Willem-Alexander and Máxima - Current Events, Part 6

[monica17]

Originally Posted by The Watcher

According RTL Boulevard there will be a photoshoot coming tuesday. 26 june is the birthday of princess Alexia

Hear, hear! I will be glued to my computer all day Tuesday.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by The Watcher

She only did an interview with the magazine Kinderopvang (Day care). Other media (like Telegraaf) used this interview for their own article.

Nanny Görtz comments on Royalblog,besides not knowing much of the defenition of discretion,THE first golden rule,she's to teach others good manners?Not very chic.

[Henri M.]

Their Royal Highnesses The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima of the Netherlands apparently have plans to visit the headquarters of COC.

C.O.C. means Cultuur en Ontspannings-Centrum, or Centre for Culture and Leisure, a reminder of the pseudonym the organisation initially adopted after its foundation in 1946. COC is the oldest Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender organisation in the world.

Often the Court has a bit been criticized for 'neglecting' gays. It is undoubtedly true that there are many gays working in the royal household service as true and most loyal servants to The Queen and other members of the Royal House. It is also known that -for an example- Princess Máxima's closest aunt and godmother Marcela Cerruti Carricart is lesbian and living together with a partner for almost 2 decades.

It is also known that the Prince of Orange's most important teacher and The Queen's most important advisor and confidant, Herman Diederik Tjeenk Willink, the vice-president of the Council of State, is openly gay and living with his partner.

There have been rumours that The Queen would have been opposing the opening of marriage for same sex couples. Her Majesty is rumoured not to have had objections against equal rights but she thought it should not be in the same 'format' as the traditional marriage. Anyway, as The Queen's views and opposition against Cabinet plans belong to the constitutional 'Secret of Noordeinde (Palace)', no one knows exactly what the Queen thinks.

To make an end for once and for all about any assumptions, The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima have the intention to bring an official visit to the COC-organization and with this show their 'royal approval' and openly support for gay rights. To show that there is more than plenty of space, also for gays, under the gentle Orange sun.



This intended visit has been leaked in a newspaper and the Court was 'not amused'. To show their discontent there is a threat to cancel the princely visit, but it is believed this is only meant as a sign of royal disapproval that the so valued confidence has been broken.

Source: GK.nl

[Verde Esmeralda]

Originally Posted by Henri M.

Their Royal Highnesses The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima of the Netherlands apparently have plans to visit the headquarters of COC.
(...)

Often the Court has a bit been criticized for 'neglecting' gays. It is undoubtedly true that there are many gays working in the royal household service as true and most loyal servants to The Queen and other members of the Royal House. It is also known that -for an example- Princess Máxima's closest aunt and godmother Marcela Cerruti Carricart is lesbian and living together with a partner for almost 2 decades.

(...) To make an end for once and for all about any assumptions, The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima have the intention to bring an official visit to the COC-organization and with this show their 'royal approval' and openly support for gay rights. To show that there is more than plenty of space, also for gays, under the gentle Orange sun.


Source: GK.nl

I don't recall reading (at least in the local Argentinean media) anything about Mrs. Marcela Cerruti Carricart's lesbian condition. Has this been reported in the Dutch media?

Regarding the visit itself, if true, I guess it shares its purpose with those 'private dinners' the princely couple usually held with those remarkable/succesful/highly influential Dutch individuals they are willing to know better, as future monarchs - I believe you posted and translated that article for us some time ago. They're making the path easier, and that's WISE.

[Marengo]

Yes, that was reported in the Dutch media, though not much importance was given to it, just background information.

[susan alicia]

there is a difference, the dinners are held at their own home, it is an honor to be invited, it is private and personal.
The visit to the COC building is official and not intimate as the dinnerinvitations.
Marengo if two women live together can it not be for the company, in other words are you sure of the "condition" as verde esmiralda calls it.

Originally Posted by Verde Esmeralda

I don't recall reading (at least in the local Argentinean media) anything about Mrs. Marcela Cerruti Carricart's lesbian condition. Has this been reported in the Dutch media?

Regarding the visit itself, if true, I guess it shares its purpose with those 'private dinners' the princely couple usually held with those remarkable/succesful/highly influential Dutch individuals they are willing to know better, as future monarchs - I believe you posted and translated that article for us some time ago. They're making the path easier, and that's WISE.

[Marengo]

I am not sure if she is a lesbian or not, but I am sure that some of the Dutch media, including the NOS (state channel) labelled her as such.

[Verde Esmeralda]

Originally Posted by susan alicia

there is a difference, the dinners are held at their own home, it is an honor to be invited, it is private and personal.
The visit to the COC building is official and not intimate as the dinnerinvitations.
Marengo if two women live together can it not be for the company, in other words are you sure of the "condition" as verde esmiralda calls it.

Dear Susan Alicia,

I understand the difference between the private dinners and the visit to the COC, what I meant is that it is clear that through different methods, the princely couple is willing to show themselves as open and prone to dialogue with diverse spheres, taking into account that they will be monarchs in (a possibly near) future.

As for the term "condition" that I chose is concerned, it is a mere translation of Spanish (we do use the term "condición sexual" - sexual condition) when speaking of these matters, and it is considered to be neutral. That's why.

[Henri M.]

Anyway, I think that the average gay person (and I know I'm stating an assumption) is generally attached to The Queen and the royal family. I'm sure that The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima will find a warm and a cordial welcome in the COC headquarters. When you visit gay bars, restaurants or shops which attract a gay clientèle, you often see portraits of The Queen in the etablissement.

But the same can be said for many non-gay shops as well. Especially in Amsterdam and The Hague you will find a portrait of The Queen hanging in a shop. Usually of the better segment (Focke & Meltzer, Bonnetterie, Slot Couture, Bonebakker Jewellers, etc.)

A visit by Prince Willem-Alexander and Princess Máxima is also a strong sign to the outside world, including certain (ethnic and religious) groups in the Netherlands, of an outspoken support to gay rights by the future King.

[lucien]

HRH has been re-elected for another 8 year term as member of the Intenational Olympic Committee during the 119th meeting of the IOC in Guatamala City today.

[rockon210]

German TV Channel ZDF wil air next Tuesday 25 July, a documentary about Willem Alexander and Maxima.
This is part of a 6 part documentary called " Die Königskinder".
More information on ZDF.de - Die Königskinder

[flower1988]

on 24th July

[rockon210]

Sorry, this was my mistake.

[Kelly]

Can we see the interview after it has been aired? I checked and there were some people already doing commentaries on them although I didn't understand what they were making the comments about.

[Verde Esmeralda]

I don't know, but so far you can see some videoclips with "interviews" to some people (Hans van den Bergh, Avi Primor, etc) which seem to be commenting on the subject. One of them is speaking in Dutch, though the audio is in German of course.
Click on "interaktiv interviews" for this.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Can we see the interview after it has been aired? I checked and there were some people already doing commentaries on them although I didn't understand what they were making the comments about.

But ofcourse,just wait till after it's aired tuesday evening,then follow the link provided by Rockon-210 above.

[anirac]

Originally Posted by Verde Esmeralda

I don't know, but so far you can see some videoclips with "interviews" to some people (Hans van den Bergh, Avi Primor, etc) which seem to be commenting on the subject. One of them is speaking in Dutch, though the audio is in German of course.
Click on "interaktiv interviews" for this.

There is just a little mistake at the side:
When you want to hear the part about the future kind of kingship (answered by Avi Primor) you hear the same part of the interview like the responding to the question about the relationship of Alex and Maxima

[Kelly]

What kinds of questions were asked to the interviewers? Could someone translate some of it?