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Old 08-08-2009, 07:37 PM
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If one of these days, the Dutch press gets tired of all this and take actions against them... the couple will think twice next time.
The prince and the princess forget they need the press... you don't see other young royals doing this!

I know Máxima loves Argentina and that's such a wonderful thing about her. But they should understand why these "argentinos boludos" take pics of them: because people want to see them, because they are popular... not because they want to ruin their great vacation!

Yes, the media code... Well, when you sign an agreement with someone that's because you wanted to sign it. In this case, I guess the media had to sign it or they wouldn't be invited to the next photo session...

For their own sake, they must stop behaving like this. All this anger, rage and verbal violence from WA is not normal, IMO. I think Máxima is a gentle and smart person, I wonder if she agrees with her husband's explosive reactions.

Well next time, go to some ultra-exclusive private island where no one can find you lol
Well said, Regina!

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I think WA's spanish improved tremendously.Bueno!Bravo Alejandro.
Your Spanish is really good Lucien!

But honestly, I would have hoped that W-A's was going to be much better than this, after 7 years of being married to an Argentinian (and ten dating in total)

Even if he doesn't need to master it, I figured out he would, considering the effort that his wife put into learning Dutch language (I am being a little bit too romantic here, but still)
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Old 08-08-2009, 09:08 PM
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Just to set the record straight, 3 magazines say that the prince insulted argentinian paparazzi; not Argentinians in general!!
Thanks for that Marengo.
He only yelled at the press crapule.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:50 AM
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Thank you both! I think someone (Queen B) needs to remind him of who he is, that is not the way a future king acts. Look what he is teaching the future Queen to act like.Not a very good role model for his daughter. I hope Maxima will be able to help her learn her role with the press. She certainly does not need to follow the examples, or lessons, from dear ole dad. You could tell in London when he had his tantrum Maxima wanted to crawl under the car seat the way she was trying to hide her face. I was taught at a very early age there is never any reason for rudeness regardless of the situation.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:02 AM
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initially, the lawsuit against AP: i can understand that they want to protect their kids, but it seems to me the agreement is with the dutch press. therefore, if they are in another country, with press from another country - i'm not sure how the agreement applies.
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I think they're very badly advised taking this on. They're talking about suing the AP in the United States, where the media has the right to take pictures of people (including children) out in public. There's not a chance a U.S. court will rule that the AP should have honored a Dutch "gentlemen's agreement" about the family's vacation, especially in a public resort in a third country.

It's actually pretty ironic that they're suing a U.S. media outlet over this, since they get absolutely no media coverage here. We see stories about the British and Monagasque royals, but that's about it. You could project images of the entire Dutch royal family on giant screens in the middle of Times Square and you would not find five people who would have any idea who they were. (Unless a convention of royalty buffs was in town!)
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Are they suing in an American court since AP is an American agency? If so, the facts of the case all seem pretty silly: the Dutch royal family has an agreement with the DUTCH press, some foreign photographers take some innocuous photos on their vacation, and they're suing in a country where freedom of the press is enshrined in the constitution?
I'm not sure the Dutch Royal Family can sue an American media company in American courts for violating an arrangement that the DRF has with the Dutch Press in Netherlands. That seems rather silly, and kind of a no-brainer that it'll be thrown out. I'm sure there aren't many Americans (who aren't royal watchers) that are even aware that there is a Dutch Royal Family, much less be able to identify them in photos.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:15 AM
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I have to agree with Marengo that the constant lawsuits and threats of them from this couple is getting quite old and tiring. The family was skiing at a public resort and the photographers were at a distance and not in their faces or their daughters so they were hardly threatened. The agreement with the media was with the Dutch media and not with international agencies outside of the Netherlands. If they wanted privacy, then go to a private ski agency.
I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but the only people caring to see photos of Willem and Maxima are royalty fans and gossip mags. In the US the general population doesn't know European Royals nor do most care.
It's true that other Royal couples don't routinely cry,"Lawsuit" and I'm sure none of these couples and their families are thrilled at having pictures taken of them on holiday, but they cope. I'm sure they would like to scream.
Today, when one makes an enemy of the press, it's the individual that pays and the media can make life for him/her tough.
When Willem and Maxima visit NY there was probably not going to be a lot of news coverage, but now there may not be any. From the AP especially.
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I just have to add that during the Olympics in Turin, the US network interviewed the Prince and he was very personable and struck me as a very nice person. I understand his and Maxima's frustrations, but they can't just threaten legal action all the time. It isn't always going to work for them and many times backfires.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:28 AM
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Thanks for that Marengo.
He only yelled at the press crapule.
Ehm, if he was indeed saying "argentine idiots", he used "argentine" as swear word.
You might disagree, but since he could have also said "idiots" only, many would understand it as attack against argentine in general...and "many" is the point...

However...jetset WAX is losing all sympathies, he once had with me. Then I didn´t know really about his temper problem...and I guess many dutch don´t either...thanks to RVD...ironic somehow
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:52 AM
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the other thing I think they are in the middle of their vacation and to take time to contact their assistance to start a legal issue, sueing and all the it is a little too far to , go and enjoy the holidasy , insted of thinking in a lgal battle with the press!, someone mantion in the forum the press was far away so why did he insult them? just not very good ecample for the kids and i am sure not esay for maxima, i wonder really what she thinks, he might be this persons who two faces, nice on public and with bad character in private! who knows i know some people are like that, any litte thing make them o switch ti a bad character
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If you permit, and a am probably 99,8 % wrong, you may correct me, please, but my opinion is, that for one time, that WA and M are NOT smiling or laughing, as usual, they are so horrified, that they are shown with normal severe and even meditative faces, that they cannot bear, to be shown like this. But this is not, what the population demands. The population can stand to see them with faces of not so good temper or of reflection... which is normal for every human being. It is not necessary to smile all the time.
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:54 PM
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It looks like from the pictures that C-A is a good skier! How wonderful for the family to relax and enjoy.
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Old 08-09-2009, 06:53 PM
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the other thing I think they are in the middle of their vacation and to take time to contact their assistance to start a legal issue, sueing and all the it is a little too far to , go and enjoy the holidasy , insted of thinking in a lgal battle with the press!, someone mantion in the forum the press was far away so why did he insult them? just not very good ecample for the kids and i am sure not esay for maxima, i wonder really what she thinks, he might be this persons who two faces, nice on public and with bad character in private! who knows i know some people are like that, any litte thing make them o switch ti a bad character
Well, I think we all have two faces because we tend to react differently when the circumstances change. Máxima didn't have to smile to anyone this time because she's not attending an event. But this exaggerated anger when they are travelling, and the exaggerated laughter when they are working, always confused me.

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You could tell in London when he had his tantrum Maxima wanted to crawl under the car seat the way she was trying to hide her face. I was taught at a very early age there is never any reason for rudeness regardless of the situation.
All these situations are confusing. I think the prince and princess knew that cameras were in the sky resort. In some pictures it seems that Máxima is even smiling at them. They had Dutch and Argentian security to look after them, so why didn't the couple tell them to make paparazzis stop taking pictures from them?
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Old 08-09-2009, 07:07 PM
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In some pictures it seems that Máxima is even smiling at them. They had Dutch and Argentian security to look after them, so why didn't the couple tell them to make paparazzis stop taking pictures from them?
I was wondering exactly the same. Look at this pic http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...ke1Mr/610x.jpg she seems to be smiling to the photographer. Actually, when I saw it, I tought they were confortable with people taking pics of them.

And you are absolutely right, what about the body guards? they didn't do anything (that's what we know)
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:03 PM
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I don't think their bodyguards are allowed just to push/force paparazzi away, esp.not when they are in private and in another country.

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Nobody says that the AP pictures will sell in the US or that the couple is known there, but AP does sell photographs in The Netherlands too, the pictures would have been for the Dutch market probably.
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I believe that W-A and Maxima are entitled to their privacy on vacation and can understand their frustration at the press. However this in no way excuses the way W-A addressed the press. As a future king he cannot continue thinking he can talk to people in such a manner. It makes him seem like a rude immature child throwing his toys out of the pram. And this action has done nothing to avert the press. They will continue following, perhaps even worse than before.

When you are a royal I believe this is part of the job description, whether you like it or not.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:23 AM
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I believe that W-A and Maxima are entitled to their privacy on vacation and can understand their frustration at the press. However this in no way excuses the way W-A addressed the press. As a future king he cannot continue thinking he can talk to people in such a manner. It makes him seem like a rude immature child throwing his toys out of the pram. And this action has done nothing to avert the press. They will continue following, perhaps even worse than before.

When you are a royal I believe this is part of the job description, whether you like it or not.
Did you,or any of you,actually hear him say anything?
Ofcourse none of you did. Just the press.
That is all,no one heard it otherwise.


And dear crm,but you nor anyone,or at least most here,haven't got a Clue on what it is on the Royal job discription other then the one at Disneyworld.
So,please,leave this absolute nonsens be,just leave it.
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Its funny to me that it seems the press is never happy. The first few days of there vacation we saw a couple of shots. They seemed relaxed in a OK you got a couple now go away. If the press would have left it at that I think that would have been the end of it. but as usual......day after day more pics. Anyone would get p.od. I know I would have been cussing up a storm!!!
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I think we can all agree that we disagree. But this is a difficult subject. Where do you draw the privacy line when it comes to royalty who are public figures? I personally don't see why they want to sue in this case, especially since the pictures were taken by a foreign agency. Plus, when they come back Maxima can go to the Hema, Amalia and Alexia can go to school and everybody will leave them alone. But we all know that the argentinian paparazzi can be very invasive. The mediacode isn't bad for their everyday life in the Netherlands, especially for the children, and yes they deserve their privacy on a holiday, but they can't control everything that happens in a foreign country. And I also think with the way they are behaving right now that the mediacode will blow up in their faces, and that can have some nasty consequences (although I hope it will never come that far). Now everybody kiss and make up!
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These pictures are wonderful, thank you Victoria.CP Máxima looks happy and relaxed.
I agree. They are great!!
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