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Old 03-30-2008, 02:18 PM
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Many of us are lucky enough to live in places where we don't have to worry about things like this.

I agree, if he knew what was going on, regardless of whether he supported it or not, Mr. Zorreguita was wrong. However, I also agree with the person who said it's not just black and white. I know that if I were in a position like his, I would be terrified to speak out. Especially if I had a family. What would happen to them? I think it would be a personally difficult thing of whether to do the right thing, or to keep my mouth shut.
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Old 03-30-2008, 03:08 PM
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Many of us are lucky enough to live in places where we don't have to worry about things like this.

I agree, if he knew what was going on, regardless of whether he supported it or not, Mr. Zorreguita was wrong. However, I also agree with the person who said it's not just black and white. I know that if I were in a position like his, I would be terrified to speak out. Especially if I had a family. What would happen to them? I think it would be a personally difficult thing of whether to do the right thing, or to keep my mouth shut.

Thatīs what everybody did, shut up, and do as if nothing happened,except for the Mother of the dissapeared, who were the only brave ones to denounce what was going on. The rest of the population made as if nothing happened. If it didnīt happen to me why do i have to get involved? Thatīs what Argentinians now regret. As for Zorreguieta, how can you all be so naive, everyone knew people were dissapearing and poor Secretary of Agriculture was not aware of anything. Why do you believe so? Because heīs the father of the adorable Maxima? Letīs face it people, Mr. Zorreguieta shares the same extreme right ideology that was put into practice with dictatorships on several Latin American countries, (Chile,Paraguay, Bolivia ,Peru,etc.)with the support of the United states, coordinated by inteligence services (CIA included of course). And then the "Operation Condor" was carried on by which all the oppossed to these ideas were ELIMINATED. It is important to remember that these dictatorships wouldnīt have been successful without the external support.

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Old 03-30-2008, 03:20 PM
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Well, I don't think that Maxima ought to be stained by the actions of her father, over which she had no control.

I think that in her way, using her position, she is doing her best to right the wrongs of her father. Although not discussing it directly, as it would do not a bit of good for her to do that.

I agree. Maxima seems not only far more intelligent than her father but also a compassionate person. Maxima belongs to my generation, and she doesnīt seem the typical daughter of a military who inherites the familiar legacy (in thoughts and attitudes). She seems to have understood what happened as many of us did, "so as not to repeat the history".

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Old 03-30-2008, 04:29 PM
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Dictatorships on several Latin American countries, (Chile,Paraguay, Bolivia ,Peru,etc.)with the support of the United states, coordinated by inteligence services (CIA included of course). And then the "Operation Condor" was carried on by which all oppositors to these ideas were ELIMINATED. It is important to remember that these dictatorships wouldnīt have been successful without the external support.
De verdad,that is true Rosana.I referred to that in a previous post in this specific thread in the full sentence pointing at "friends" from "friendly states".
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:05 AM
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Of course he new what was going on the whole country knew what was happening. But if I was in his position I'm honestly not sure what I would have done. Would I have spoke out or refused a position in government in a stand-off and at the same time risked my own life and that of my family?
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I agree full-heartedly with those who have questioned whether the sins of the father should be laid at the door of a child.

Aside from anything else, there are enough poor people out there who are 'scarred' by their childhoods, without us terrorising them after the fact.

With regards to Maxima & WA's children & the grandparents, I feel that it is only natural that they would want involvement in each others lives - I can tell you for a certainty that my life would have been much the poorer without my grandparents.

A question: Do we know how Maxima's father feels about his involvement?

And finally, is it the RF's public affiliation with Jorge, or the private one, which is most... controversial?
I'll admit that after I saw pictures of him at the Baptisms I was surprised, but that was only because I knew he hadnt attended the wedding, and had made assumptions about other public events (even, apparently, the 'private' ones). It is hardly something we hear much about in NZ!!!
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