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Old 04-30-2013, 09:37 AM
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How come some of the Ministers are swearing one way and it seems that others are saying something different?
religious vs non-religious people

two fingers up swear 'with the help of God almighty' the others say 'so I promise'
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:38 AM
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What are the members of the States General saying now?
The are taking an oath. The ones keeping their fingers up promise in the name of God the ones who don't just promise (no God involved).
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religious vs non-religious people
So some are swearing to God and others are congratulating???
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pledge allegiance to the new king
Thank you!
I thought it was something similar, but was puzzled because they are using different wordings.
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So some swear by Almighty God, others don't, but what about the woman in white - she sounded like she didn't agree at all!
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So some are swearing to God and others are congratulating???
The others say 'so I promise'

no congratulations yet, we're not yet done
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Designer? Valentino? Or Jan taminiau?
Jan Taminiau

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Maxima has blown me away with her dress and appearance. Beyond my wildest....stunning!!!!!!

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So some swear by Almighty God, others don't, but what about the woman in white - she sounded like she didn't agree at all!
There are a few who won't take the oath, they will not be called out, but are present
(they have said up front the won't do it)
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How come some of the Ministers are swearing one way and it seems that others are saying something different?
There is a christian and an agnostic/atheist oath. "Zo waarlijk helpe mij God almachtig" = So God help me. and "Dat beloof ik" = I promise that
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Jan Taminiau Jan Taminiau - Elke dag!
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I see, its religious and non-religious. I thought at first that were those who agreed and others who don't, thankfully I was wrong.

But there was a women there who said something diferent than the two oaths, and people laughed. What did she say?
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Are the people who are swearing their allegiance, monarchists? Are the people who don't hold up their hand not?
yes this is confusing does anyone know what the fingers up means ? and this "duc belovic" ?
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boy, there's a lot of ministers.
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yes this is confusing does anyone know what the fingers up means ? and this "duc belovic" ?
duh belovic=dat beloof ik (this i promise)
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Great! Thank you! Absolutely stunning. She is really regal today and very serious but great
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boy, there's a lot of ministers.

There sure are.
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yes this is confusing does anyone know what the fingers up means ? and this "duc belovic" ?
Look up a couple of comments. It is religious v non-religious pledge
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boy, there's a lot of ministers.
Those are not ministers, they are members of the parliament (150 for the lower, and 75 for the higher chamber; 5 anti-monarchists are absent, but they will have to sweat allegiance later, or they cannot be part of the parliament anymore).
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