Dutch State Visit to Ireland: June 12-14, 2019


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muriel said:
Black-tie or not, do we think Max will get a tiara on tonight?
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The dress code was business suit for the Swedish state visit, so. probably no tiara for Maxima either.

I am interested in this angle of an Orange monarch visiting Ireland given the historic background.
 
Not quite St Patricks Hall but the Dutch King and Queen managed to get our life long socialist President into black tie for the night!
 
lucien said:
It does,ask the Royal House protocol why.?
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Would you care to clarify ? The dress code is set by the host, not by the guests. Why would the same President of the Republic of Ireland treat the King of Sweden differently from the King of the Netherlands ? To make matters worse, the King of Sweden is more senior than King Willem Alexander.
 
I guess it's part of the behind the scene planning and the Netherlands being more insistent?! Although they weren't able to convince the French...
 
Mbruno said:
Would you care to clarify ? The dress code is set by the host, not by the guests. Why would the same President of the Republic of Ireland treat the King of Sweden differently from the King of the Netherlands ? To make matters worse, the King of Sweden is more senior than King Willem Alexander.
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The latter has nothing to do with it,firstly,secondly it is entirely up to the two Heads of State,protocol and the Ministers involved in the organisation of a visit what's what and how and when and why.
 
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I guess it's part of the behind the scene planning and the Netherlands being more insistent?! Although they weren't able to convince the French...
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Whether it is a matter of insistence or not, the Irish have been very inconsistent lately: white tie for Queen Elizabeth II (different president though, so I will take it as an excuse), black tie for King Willem Alexander, and business suit for King Carl XVI Gustaf. An outside observer may be tempted to think that some Heads of State are accorded higher deference than others, which would be very disrespectful.
 
Somebody said:
I guess it's part of the behind the scene planning and the Netherlands being more insistent?! Although they weren't able to convince the French...
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Ah,them,with that selfish little critter for a former president,he left before the state dinner was ended,,arrogance a la pays I'd say.

But here it is another matter,maybe Mrs. Higgins thought her dress needed some airing too,( and it becomes her) - and hoped for Máxima to air a nice one of her plus a bauble or two who knows...:lol:

There's always a little to and fro about what and which colours the Ladies involved wear during preparations of State Visits.Funny to see what people think/believe of and what they see...:)..
 
Mbruno said:
Whether it is a matter of insistence or not, the Irish have been very inconsistent lately: white tie for Queen Elizabeth II (different president though, so I will take it as an excuse), black tie for King Willem Alexander, and business suit for King Carl XVI Gustaf. An outside observer may be tempted to think that some Heads of State are accorded higher deference than others, which would be very disrespectful.
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It was also black tie for Queen Elizabeth. The white tie was when the President of ireland paid a State Visit to the UK.

But i also think they should have the same dresscode for all State Banquet and nonce black tie and once business suits and short gowns.
 
This is the 1st State Visit by the Dutch King and Queen,whilst their Swedish counterparts were on a second State Visit and had the Black Tie Gala back in 1998.

Also bear in mind that the current President of Ireland is very different in his presidency and very unlike the previous two Mary's who enjoyed displaying a bit of pomp at State Visits and always hosted them at Dublin Castle.Mr Higgins seems to enjoy a more relaxed version and hosts them at the homely Aras rather than the sumptuous setting of Dublin castle.
 
An Ard Ri said:
This is the 1st State Visit by the Dutch King and Queen,whilst their Swedish counterparts were on a second State Visit and had the Black Tie Gala back in 1998.
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Sorry but for mte this is no argument that it weas the second State Visit by the swedish Royal Couple. In other countreies it also the same dresscode. And i don't understand that he changes it for State Visits who take place within a few weeks.
 
Stefan said:
It was also black tie for Queen Elizabeth. The white tie was when the President of ireland paid a State Visit to the UK.

But i also think they should have the same dresscode for all State Banquet and nonce black tie and once business suits and short gowns.
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Sorry, you are right. I always get that mixed up !
 
Could we please stick to the State Visit itself?Thank you.
 
Stefan said:
Sorry but for mte this is no argument that it weas the second State Visit by the swedish Royal Couple. In other countreies it also the same dresscode. And i don't understand that he changes it for State Visits who take place within a few weeks.
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The norm here was always been black Tie and and Gala banquet at Dublin Castle why the Swedish King and Queen got business suits on their State second visit I have no idea but I'm not gonna dwell on it.


Gala Dinner at the Aras tonight in honour of the Dutch State Visit

https://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?start=0&zoektype=2&search=12-06-2019 Gala
 
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Nice to see Maxima wearing green - it seems that Ireland is also having its fair share of wet and windy weather like we've been having here in London!
 
I am absolutely loving Queen Maxima's green gown. She looks fabulous and the Emerald jewels are not overstated with it. This Emerald set is just lovely I have always admired it. A gift from Queen Emma to her daughter Queen Wilhelmina 1899. Made by Eduard Schurmann & Co. In Frankfurt. The Emeralds were said to have been brought to the Netherlands by Queen Wilhelmina of Prussia, wife of Prince Willem V of Orange - Nassau in the 18th century. The original settings have since been changed.

Mrs Higgins looks very nice in the lacy blue dress as well.
 
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In the second photo there is a man with a sword and another man with a golden stick & a crown on top. Does anybody know what they are symbolizing?
 
Looking at the photos of the dutch royals it seems that the king is extremely tall. How tall is the king?
 
Marengo said:
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In the second photo there is a man with a sword and another man with a golden stick & a crown on top. Does anybody know what they are symbolizing?
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It forms part of the ceremonial Regalia of the Lord Mayor of Dublin which comprises of a Mace and Sword and he or she also have their own coach.

The Great Mace of Dublin & the Dublin City Sword

https://twitter.com/x/status/1086235748272095233


Lord Mayors Coach

https://images.app.goo.gl/kwy4QC9ptpBwcMu56

The State Banquet last night at Áras an Uachtaráin with speeches by President Higgins and King Willem-Alexander.

 
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King Willem-Alexander, Queen Máxima and the Presidential Couple at the evening event today, June 13:


** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** ppe gallery **


The above posted galleries have been with pics of the evening as well, so check them out again!
 
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