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Old 11-23-2006, 08:11 PM
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she dresses with a formality that is only surpassed by HM The Queen, her ladies-in-waiting and female CDA/VVD politicians who passed the age of 60.
That last one made me laugh out loud, Marengo! Thanks for that.

I agree with your last post in a whole, btw. I fail to see the horror of it all too, to be honest. In a world where a lot of problems have to be solved, I don't think it's of any consequence that there's a smart Dutch princess wandering around whose only crime is that from time to time she dresses up in a way some of us don't like (including me, btw)...
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:37 PM
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Amen to that.

Her mother-in-law is already performing public duties for 50 years, as Princess and later as Queen. On hot days, cold days, stormy days, rainy days, dry days.

Always and ever she tries to look impeccable. Because she knows what impression she wants to make. First and foremost (so said her son Prince Constantijn) any public act must be done in a dignified style. Friendly but distant. Dignified but human.

Máxima for sure is extremely friendly. And extremely human. I do miss the distance and the dignified attitude which surrounds Queen Beatrix. Sometimes even Laurentien, with all her strange outfits à la laurentinoise, radiates more dignity than Máxima!
Completely agree!
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:40 PM
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I like Maxima, She appears very smart, her speeches are by far the best of the Crown Princesses (maybe she has a fantastic speech writer ) she has spark and she seems genuine. But honeslty lately her apprances has gone dooooown and I dont think any other of her fellow Crown Princesses has her resources. Even if you are pregnant you can comb your hair and try to not outbling Jay-Z in a day event. If it is windy put it in a ponytail or a chignon, or use some hairspray (Im sure her mother in law can recomend a good label ) We almost never see the older guard (Sonja, Silvia Beatrix, Sofia etc) looking like they have just entered a hurricane storm. Such apparance as this really distracts from the event,Instead of wondering what the event is about I wonder what is she doing at the floor
http://ppe-agency.com/500px/Nov2006/06112207.jpg
and where is her face
http://ppe-agency.com/500px/Nov2006/06112215.jpg

Well one word one cant put on her is Boring
Very wise comment! So well put too; nothing to add to, agree with every word!
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:13 AM
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wondering what the event is about I wonder what is she doing at the floor
http://ppe-agency.com/500px/Nov2006/06112207.jpg
Simply: one of the pylons which marked the red carpet tumbled down and apparently Máxima wanted to help the mayor to upright it.
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:09 AM
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Well, my perception of dignity a la Laurentinoise is troubled by her appearing as an airoplane, though very friendly, not exactly royal either. Neither are many of her clothing choises, some of which seem more suitable for the circus then for an official duty as a representant of the Dutch state. But still I value Laurentien as a member of the RF as she seems to have a cause and tries to put much of her energy in it, which is IMHO much more important then her clothes.

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Though I do not like Maxima's shiny outfit of yesterday, I fail to see the horror of it all. IMO she is a rather conservative dresser and compared to the Dutch women I see at work, on the street, television etc. she dresses with a formality that is only surpassed by HM The Queen, her ladies-in-waiting and female CDA/VVD politicians who passed the age of 60.

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Concrete hairdo's is not so much of this generation anymore either, and I sure hope she will never start being as exchuberent with the harspray as her mother-in-law, Queen Fabiola or Raine Spencer. Personally I would prefer her to put the hair in a knot, like the Duchess of Brabant usually does.
Agree Marengo.Allthough appearance is part of the Royal spectrum(especially on forums/boards)...,I think it's far more important What and How HRH does contribute within The Netherlands and within the frame of her many interests in a global perspective,ao,micro-credit issues.
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:17 AM
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I admire their ability to listen to the best of PR strategists!

Or, in such a cleverly planned and orchestrated and strategized way. This is a clever PR trick they use to influence exactly those politicians who don't really warm for the concept of the monarchy.
Ever since Juliana & Bernhard,and especially since 1966,Beatrix and Claus, always invited people from the world of politics(left,right and center),artists,scientists and such for dinner parties,first at Drakensteyn,later in The Hague.Those gatherings aimed/aiming at broaden their minds.
Always a good idea.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:21 PM
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I prefer her hair loose, dishevelled by the wind and not hard and fixed with tons of spray as the queen who seems to be wearing a wig. Maxima is very young and the long hair is her best choice.
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:49 PM
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Henri M....why do you constantly refer to Princess Maxima as Maxima Zorreguieta? Has she gotten a divorce and is now referred to her by her maiden name and I missed the news? Or is it because you don't like her?
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Old 11-25-2006, 07:25 PM
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Henri M....why do you constantly refer to Princess Maxima as Maxima Zorreguieta? Has she gotten a divorce and is now referred to her by her maiden name and I missed the news? Or is it because you don't like her?
Sorry, must have been an automatism.
I have already edited my post:
Máxima Zorreguieta into: Máxima.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:46 PM
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Henri M....why do you constantly refer to Princess Maxima as Maxima Zorreguieta? Has she gotten a divorce and is now referred to her by her maiden name and I missed the news? Or is it because you don't like her?
Why is it so bad to call her Maxima Zorreguieta? Is she ashamed of her last name? I don't see anything wrong--why do you assume that if you call her Maxima Zorreguieta, people don't like her? Did I miss something here?
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:15 PM
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Why is it so bad to call her Maxima Zorreguieta? Is she ashamed of her last name? I don't see anything wrong--why do you assume that if you call her Maxima Zorreguieta, people don't like her? Did I miss something here?
It is seen as a mark of (my) disapproval when I do not write HRH Princess Máxima of the Netherlands.

That is what is meant here.
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Old 11-27-2006, 05:07 PM
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It is seen as a mark of (my) disapproval when I do not write HRH Princess Máxima of the Netherlands.

That is what is meant here.
Please!! Let's move on. I never call her HRH Princess Maxima of the Netherlands...Maxima is fine with me, and I am sure it is fine with her. Who really cares? Unbelievable. Besides, you have a right to dislike her if you feel like that. I love her, and I still don't see anything wrong.
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Old 11-27-2006, 05:34 PM
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alright, I think it is always useful to agree that everyone does not have to think of things in the same way, approve/disapprove/ whatever the case.

none of it matters anyway. be happy.

Both the Crown Princess and the DRF family know clearly what her name is.

nothing will cease to exist either way
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:45 PM
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Hola!

Regular visitors to the website of Hola! will see that they also often write

Máxima Zorreguieta
Máxima de Holanda
La Princesa Máxima
Máxima de Orange
Máxima de los Paísos Bajos
Máxima
La Princesa de los Paísos Bajos

It is all ok. I say Máxima. Othere even say Máxi.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:35 AM
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Why is it so bad to call her Maxima Zorreguieta? Is she ashamed of her last name? I don't see anything wrong--why do you assume that if you call her Maxima Zorreguieta, people don't like her? Did I miss something here?
Why?
First:Because since her marriage she's properly addressed as HRH Princess Máxima of the Netherlands,Henry's disdain is strictly his own and doesn't reflect the general mood/view in the Country.

Second;Henri,nice as he can be,has this thing with the Princess,it's either Himmelhoch Jauchzend or zum Tode betrübt,"Our Chica Latina" or the messy hairball,it all depends on Henri's mood swings you see.On other boards we're used to that,here it might be a novelty.

Three:The Princess remains herself,once applauded for doing so by our dear co-poster.Allthough I love to see her hair in a knot during a gala,to have it that way all the time would make her look like something of a swedish governess,it would be dubbed as "frumpy" then.

Thank god the majority of the dutch love her how she is,but then unfortunately not all of them are registered at TRF,so you just have to take it from me and some others here....
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:58 PM
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didn't she give up her last name upon her marriage? Isn't she now Maxima von Orange, technically? I know Letizia kept her last name, but that is a Spanish thing, and all of the other royal women (aside from the Spanish) have taken their husband's names (with the exception of QEII, Q Margrethe, and Q Beatrix, whose husbands took their names).
Maxima, as a consort, would then have taken W-A's last name, which would be the family name, which I believe is von Orange, or maybe _Prince Claus's last name_ von Orange.
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didn't she give up her last name upon her marriage? Isn't she now Maxima von Orange, technically? I know Letizia kept her last name, but that is a Spanish thing, and all of the other royal women (aside from the Spanish) have taken their husband's names (with the exception of QEII, Q Margrethe, and Q Beatrix, whose husbands took their names).
Maxima, as a consort, would then have taken W-A's last name, which would be the family name, which I believe is von Orange, or maybe _Prince Claus's last name_ von Orange.
it's a strange thing. Maybe the people still call her Máxima Zorreguieta to keep in mind where she comes from... For example, Queen Sonja is sometimes still called Sonja Haraldsen aswell.
Maybe it's just a media thing... Maybe they want to show: Hey look, they were commoners.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:41 PM
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In Argentinian magazines she´s called Maxima Zorreguieta, la Princesa Maxima, or just Maxima. As there´s only one Maxima there´s no need for more words.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:13 PM
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Máxima Zorreguieta in married style

When using tradition, Máxima is since her marriage:

Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid prinses Máxima, de prinses van Oranje, prinses der Nederlanden, prinses van Oranje-Nassau, mevrouw van Amsberg - Zorreguieta

But by the Court and in all official documents she is always styled as:

Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid prinses Máxima der Nederlanden
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When using tradition, Máxima is since her marriage:

Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid prinses Máxima, de prinses van Oranje, prinses der Nederlanden, prinses van Oranje-Nassau, mevrouw van Amsberg - Zorreguieta

But by the Court and in all official documents she is always styled as:

Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid prinses Máxima der Nederlanden
Official full name:

Hare Koninklijke Hoogheid prinses Máxima, prinses der Nederlanden, prinses van Oranje-Nassau, mevrouw Van Amsberg.
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