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Old 01-21-2004, 01:31 AM
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Ok...I lied. I'm still awake. I can't stop looking!

Dagbladet is posting this article : http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2004/01/21/388920.html

They are saying that one in five men don't think that the new baby, if a princess, should be the heir to the throne. UGH!!! Haven't they taken a good look at Victoria? I think they're still living in caves!!! (The men who think that a girl shouldn't be queen still live in caves, NOT the Norwegians&#33
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:31 AM
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Yes, really. Look to Sweden, Norwegians. There will be a great queen there one day!
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:32 AM
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Yeah...acupuncture is great for pain. It basically revs up your body's own "pain blocking" system in your brain - without the grogginess of anesthetics!
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:33 AM
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Quick translation of the Dagbladet article on the polls:

Of which kronprinsesse Mette Marit give birth a a girl , only one in five men that girl no matter ought to inherit the throne. 20,7 per cent of men think that Norway ought to stand fast against foregoing the tradition., Few women consider it as well.Only 4 per cent of Norwegian women seem to think that only boys should inherit the throne. Elderly are they mainly sceptical.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:35 AM
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Apologies LTR members....

In my rush to quickly translate that article, I "misspoke". The article said that the cars went in the back way, LIKE they did when Martha came in - NOT that she was there with the crown couple. They then said that they didn't know if any other family members were along... SORRY! My sleepy eyes are deceiving me! :flower:
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:36 AM
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That makes sense (the needles building up the pain tolerance).
as for the men only ruling idea, my personal opinion (not supported by LTR or any one at Invasion Board) is that's so not fair, and out of date. I'm happy that the Norse amongst others are reconizing the rights of females :)
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:37 AM
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Dennism - Thanks for translating the dagbladet article!
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:38 AM
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Thanks, Holly, but I'm winging it though based on a service and my understanding contexts.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:39 AM
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Thanks to all who are helping us with translations! Much appreciated.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:40 AM
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You did great, Dennism!
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:42 AM
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Kronprinsparets becomes second in the order of succession at the throne no matter about facts becomes a boy or a girl.

Is that so? Yes, cool. Sorry. I thought they meant Mette-Marit. My head at this late hour!
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:46 AM
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In another sentence they said that they announced that she was pregnant on July 4th?


Name article:

"Ingeborg, Olav. . . eller Guttorm

De heteste navnetipsene til kronprinsparets førstefødte er Ingeborg og Olav. Men det finnes et utall andre tradisjonelle navn å velge mellom.

Kjært kongebarn har mange navn. Det er vanlig å gi kongelige babyer mange fornavn. Vår nye tronarving vil helt sikkert få to navn. Spørsmålet er om kronprinsparet overrasker med å gi sin førstefødte også et navn fra kronprinsessen familie, altså Tjessem-Høiby-grenen.

- Det er ikke noen tradisjon for å gjøre det i Norge. Både konprins Haakon (prins Haakon Magnus red.anm.) og prinsesse Märtha Louise fikk navn etter sin kongelige slekt. Dronning Sonjas bror heter Haakon, så i det tilfellet kan man jo si at kronprinsen er oppkalt etter sin oldefar kong Haakon VII og sin onkel Haakon Haraldsen, sier Dag T.Hoelseth, historiker med blant annet kongsslekter som sitt spesialfelt.

Blir tronarvingen en gutt, er det nærliggende å tro at han vil døpes Olav, etter kong Olav V. Kronprinsesse Mette-Marits far heter Sven Olaf. Høiby, så her vil navnet ha sin bakgrunn fra både kongeslekt og Høiby-grenen.

- Jeg hadde håpet vi slapp Olav for det er så mang andre fine kongenavn. Eirik, Øystein, Inge, Sigurd og Sverre. Min favoritt er forøvrig Guttorm. Kong Guttorm Sigurdsson var barnekonge og døde i 1205, fire måneder gammel. Han regnes ikke i kongerekken. I tilegg hadde kong Harald Hårfagre en sønnesønn som het Guttormsom sier Hoelseth.

Kong Sverre klinger godt for mange, og kronprinsessens morfar het Sverre Tjessem.

Når det gjelder dronningnavn håper og tror Hoelseth på Ingeborg.

- Det er personlig min favoritt. Dessuten har navnet gode tradisjoner, sier historikeren."
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:48 AM
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Dag T.Hoelseth, historiker med blant annet kongsslekter som sitt spesialfelt.


He's on the Scandinavian Royal Board often and other boards too.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:49 AM
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At the end Dag says that his personal favorite would be Ingeborg.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:53 AM
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Dag says that there is nothing to tell at 6 a-m. (extra news at NRK TV). Was called up by the first journalist at 05:45...


It is now close to 7:00 CET.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:54 AM
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I wish I could stay up and wait to hear about the baby but it's almost 1 am here. My prayers are with Crown Princess Mette-Marit and the family. Good luck to all LTR posters who are waiting up for the good news!! :flower:
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:56 AM
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According to an article in Adresseavisen on Saturday an 18 year's old girl in Trondheim named Ingeborg has collected 140 signatures supporting the name selection Ingeborg if the Crown prince couple is a girl. The petition is now sent to the Palace!

She also has an alternative if it is a boy: Inge is an old kingly name, while Marius's middle name is Borg (his father's surname), so Ingeborg believes a boy could be called Inge Borg to strengthen the brotherly feeling between them
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:56 AM
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http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/kongelig...rticleID=694276

Here's an article from aftenposten speculating on the name of the baby...

It says:

"INGEBORG, OLAV...OR GUTTORM"

Beloved royal children have many names. It is common to give royal babies many first names. Our new heir will certainly get to names. The question is if the crown couple with surprise everyone and give their first born also a name from the crown princesses family, accordingly the Tjessem-Hoiby branch.

"It isn't a tradition to do that in Norway. Both crownprince Haakon and princess ML got names after their royal lineage. Queen Sonjas brother is named Haakon, so you can then also say that the crown prince is named after his great-grandfather, King Haakon VII AND his uncle Haakon Haraldsen," says Dag T. Hoelseth, an expert in the royal family.

If the heir is a boy, it is very likely that he will be baptised Olav, after king Olave V. Crownprincess MM's father is named Sven Olaf. Hoiby, so then the name will have a background in both sides of the family.

"I had hoped we forgot Olav because there are so many other fine king names. Eirik, Oystein, Inge, Sigurd, og Sverre. My favorite is Guttorm. King Guttorm Sigurdsson was a child king and died in 1205, four months old. He didn't reign. In addition, had King Harald Harfagre a grandson that was named Guttorm," says Hoelseth.

King Sverre wears well for many, and the crown princess' grandfather is named Sverre Tjessem.

Now concerning queen names Hoelseth hopes for Ingeborg.

"It is personally my favorite. Besides, the name has good traditions," says the historian.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:57 AM
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Thanks, Holly. But Ingeborg could be good though.
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:57 AM
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Obviously, I'm a tool. While I stepped away from my computer to make some popcorn, Dennism started in on this article! Above is the full translation, with apologies for usurping on your news, Dennism!
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