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Old 01-22-2004, 08:39 AM
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From VG, regarding Princess Ingrid Alexandra's royal relations. Since not everybody understands Norwegian, which you should learn by the way, I'll try to translate.
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Alle kongelige med felles slekt

Vår nyfødte prinsesse er femmenning til kronprinsesse Victoria - som kronprins Haakon er seksmenning til...

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SLEKTSTRE: Den nyfødte prinsessen er i slekt med «alle» medlemmene av Europas kongehus på en eller annen måte. Dagens VG (22. januar) bringer en komplett oversikt.
Forvirret? Det er det all grunn til å være. Kongelig slektskap er nemlig ikke helt som andre slektskap. 

Alle Europas kongelige er mer eller mindre i slekt med hverandre enten på den ene eller andre siden - eller begge, som er tilfellet med det norske kongehuset. 
 
Før kong Harald «brøt ut» og giftet seg borgerlig, hadde både hans far og farfar, kong Haakon og kong Olav, giftet seg kongelig - med sine søskenbarn. Sånt skaper «forviklinger» og kryssende slektslinjer. 
 
For mens kronprins Haakon er seksmenning til kronprinsesse Victoria av Sverige og hennes to søsken - på kong Olavs side, blir det nyfødte pikebarnet femmenning til den svenske søskentrioen - på kronprinsesse Märthas side. 
 
På samme side er Kronprinsen firmenning til kong Carl Gustaf av Sverige. 

Sin egen tremenning 
 
Følger man kong Olavs side av slektstreet, blir vår lille prinsesse syvmenning til barna kronprinsesse Victoria, prins Carl Philip og prinsesse Madeleine eventuelt måtte få. 
 
Og om ikke forvirringen er total, kan det nevnes at kong Harald er sin egen tremenning... Grunnen er at han er i slekt med de samme på begge sider. 

Kronprinsparets barn blir også femmenning til sønnene til prins Joachim av Danmark - prinsene Nikolai og Felix - samt til kronprins Frederik og Mary Donaldsons barn - om de får barn. 

Slekt over hele Europa 
 
Slektsbåndene strekker seg også over Nordsjøen og til England og den britiske kongefamilien. 
 
Kong Harald og dronning Elizabeth er tremenninger, kronprins Haakon og prins Charles er firmenninger. Følgelig blir vår prinsesse og prinsene William og Harry femmenninger. 
 
Eks-kong Konstantin og -dronning Anne-Marie (Danmarks dronning Margrethes søster) er henholdsvis fir- og tremenning til kong Harald. 
 
Det nye tilskuddet til den norske kongefamilien vil også få firmenninger både i Belgia og Luxembourg. 

Noe svakere er slektsbåndene til de kongelige i nabolandet Nederland, men også her er det slektskap å spore. 
 
Frister det med et Spania-besøk for den nyfødte norske prinsessen, bør det ikke være vanskelig å ta inn hos slektninger. 
 
Kronprins Haakon og kronprins Felipe er femmenninger - på begge sider. 
 
Også til de kongelige i Bulgaria er det slektsbånd. Kong Harald er seksmenning med prins Kyril, som er gift med prinsesse Rosario (35). 
 
For å si det kort: Den nyfødte prinsessen er i slekt med «alle» medlemmene av Europas kongehus på en eller annen måte. 

All Royals with relatives in common.
Our newborn princess is fourth cousin to Crown Princess Victoria, who is Crown Prince Haakon's fifth cousin...

Family tree: The newborn Princess is related to "all" the members of Europe's Royal Houses, in one way or another. Today's VG bring you the complete version. Confused? You have every reason to be. Royal relations aren't like other relations.

All of the Royals in Europe are more or less related to each other, either on one side or another, or both, as is the case with the Norwegian Royal family.

Before King Harald broke loose from tradition and married a commoner, had both his father and grandfather married royals - their cousins. That creates confusion, and crossing relations.

Since Crown prince Haakon is fifth cousin to Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden and her two siblings - on King Olav's side, the newborn girl is fourth cousin to the Swedish trio - at Crown Princess Märtha's side.

At the same side the Crown prince is third cousin to King Carl Gustaf of Sweden.


His own second cousin.
If you follow King Olav's side of the family tree, our little Princess will be sixth cousin to eventual children of Crown Princess Victoria, Prince Carl Philip and Princess Madeleine.

If you're not completely confused yet, we might mention that King Harald is his own second cousin. The reason, he's related to the same people on both sides.

The Crown Prince couple's children are also fourth cousins to the sons of Prince Joachim of Denmark, prince Nicolai and Prince Felix - as well as Crown Prince Frederik and Mary Donaldson's children, if they have any.

Relatives all over Europe
The branches of the family tree stretches all the way across the North Sea to England and the British royal family.

King Harald and Queen Elizabeth are second cousins, Crown Prince Haakon and Prince Charles are third cousins, therefore our princess and prince William and Prince Harry will be fourth cousins.

Ex-King Konstantin and - queen Anne-Marie (Sister of Queen Margrethe of Denmark) are respectively third and second cousins to King Harald.

The new addition to the Norwegian Royal family will have third cousins in both Belgium and Luxemboug.

A bit more distant are the relationship to the Dutch royals, but also here are there traceable relationship.

If the new princess is tempted by a visit to Spain it shouldn't be hard to find relatives to live with.

Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Prince Felipe are fourth cousins, on both sides.

There are also ties to the royals of Bulgaria. King Harald is the fifth cousin of Prince Kyril who is married to Princess Rosario(35)

To put it briefly: the newborn princess is related to "all" members of Europe's royal families, one way or another.
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:40 AM
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from aftenposten.no

Her Royal Highness Ingrid Alexandra

At an extraordinary meeting of Norway's cabinet ministers on Thursday, the name of the newborn heir to the throne was revealed. The daughter of Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette-Marit will be called Ingrid Alexandra, a name with regal resonance.

Prime Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik made the official public announcement, outside the palace in wintry morning weather.

"Ingrid is a well-known Norwegian girl's name, at the same time it is a Norse name and a royal name in the Bernadotte family, from among others, Queen Ingrid, mother of Denmark's Queen Margrethe, originally a Swedish princess," Bondevik said.

"The name Ingrid is also used in the crown princess' family, and is therefore a fine combination of the two families," Bondevik said.

Bondevik also explained that Alexandra was a well-known royal name in Europe, and that King Olav, the newborn princess' great-grandfather, was originally named Alexander.

Although Ingrid is a very popular name in Norway - 24,909 share it with the young princess according to Statistics Norway (SSB) - Ingrid Alexandra is extremely rare here, with the SSB database returning "0-3" hits on the combination.

A new opinion poll taken a few after the birth of Norway's first female heir to the throne on Wednesday morning showed a boost in support for the monarchy.

Nearly half of those surveyed felt the coming royal generation would strengthen the monarchy's position in Norway.

There was 75 percent support for Norway remaining a monarchy, and only 17 percent wanted the country to become a republic on the day of the princess' birth.
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Alexandra@Jan 22nd, 2004 - 7:34 am
But why those names? Íngrid is an old Norwegian name, but is Alexandra so ccommon a name there. Queen Ingrid of Denmark was relative to Haakon, but where comes Alexandra? But yes, there is, of course, the aunt of Crown Prince Haakon, Princess (?) Ragnhild Alexandra.
Alexandra isn't that common, but one of the names King Olav had before he became Olav was Alexander. And his grandmother was Queen Alexandra of Great Britain, so it's a name with roots in the royal family.

I think this was a nice way of showing some respect for him. :flower:

Ingrid was also the name of the Crown Princess' paternal grandmother.
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by norwegianne@Jan 22nd, 2004 - 2:39 pm
From VG, regarding Princess Ingrid Alexandra's royal relations. Since not everybody understands Norwegian, which you should learn by the way, I'll try to translate.
Hehee, I can not Norwegian, but at school I had years and years of Swedish lessons! So I am quite able to read Norgegian, too.

And anyway, read can we all, only understand the words could be difficult! Joke, joke ....
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Old 01-22-2004, 09:07 AM
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I like the name Ingrid Alexandra :flower: sounds really good

I don't know if they will use Ingrid or Alexandra in daily life , but they both sound good , not to old....
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Old 01-22-2004, 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by norwegianne@Jan 22nd, 2004 - 2:39 pm

The Crown prince is third cousin to King Carl Gustaf of Sweden.
 
His own second cousin.
Oh yes, it is very interesting with the royal relationships. They twist and twist around each other continuously. Have you ever thought, for example, Queen Elizabeth is fourth cousin to her children and so third cousin to her husband. :woot:

There are lots and lots and lots of twisted "cousins" in royal familytrees. It is very interesting a study to search for them. I have had many amusing moments trying to find them out. They all are related with each other, Monaco is a little out of the main way, but there are some links that way, too.
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Old 01-22-2004, 09:27 AM
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I like the name. I was very worried it would be something old fashioned. What are the 10 most popular names for boys and girls in Norway?
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On the Name Poll earlier, somebody said that Inge would be a nice name for the little princess. Now, I think, Inge is a boy's name in Norway, though it is a girl's name in Sweden and Finland.

I have a book which name is "Liebe Inge", written by Norwegian Berte Bratt, and there Inge is a boy. That is just the main point of the book. I do not know, how the book is called in Norway. (I have got (and bought) lots of books of BB. I used to know her, when sie lived in Kiel.)
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I love the name

Ingrid was my favourite from the beginning, but I didn't expect the princess to be actually called that.

Picture: Haakon and the Prime Minister
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Tante Märtha Louise fornøyd



Sammen med sin mann Ari Behn og datteren Maud Angelica møtte den nybakte tanten pressen utenfor sitt hjem i Lommedalen torsdag formiddag.

Familien hadde da ennå ikke besøkt kronprinsparet og nyfødte prinsesse Ingrid Alexandra, men skulle etter planen gjøre det senere på dagen.

- Vi vet ikke noe om bakgrunnen for navnevalget, men tror foreldrene tenkte på tradisjoner. Ingrid Alexandra er jo oppkalt etter kong Olav, som jo het Alexander, sa prinsesse Märtha Louise.

- Nå er vi veldig glade for at fødselen gikk bra, for det er ingen selvfølge. Det er vi takknemlige for, sa hun.

- Vi er også glade for at det ble en jente. Det er ny tradisjon som skapes, og det blir jo spennende.

Prinsesse Märtha Louise og Ari Behn tror deres datter Maud Angelica vil sette stor pris på å ha fått en kusine.
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Well, I have to say that I'm not a fan of the name. Certainly not in tandem. I would have preferred something else. Ingrid should be the pet name not Alexandra. Less syllables for one reason.
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Old 01-22-2004, 11:18 AM
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Two of the people Ingrid Alexandra is named for: Queen Alexandra and King Olav (Alexander). From Olav- Menneske og Monark by Jo Benkow

I like the combination of names. But I think Ingrid is going to be the name used in everyday life. The Norwegian Royals tend to use just one name.

Princess Ragnhild Alexandra = Ragnhild
Princess Astrid Maud Ingeborg = Astrid
King Harald
Queen Sonja
Crown Prince Haakon Magnus = Haakon
Crown Princess Mette-Marit = I think Haakon and her family sometimes just refers to her as Mette.
Princess Märtha Louise = Märtha, when she's talked about by her family in less formal situations.
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What a beautiful name! The family must be so excited!

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Originally posted by Alexandra@Jan 22nd, 2004 - 7:34 am
I think he became Olav then later in life, Olav was none of his original names, but I don't know it quite for sure. Anyway, Olav sounds more Norwegian.
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When Prince Carl of Denmark accepted the throne in Norway in 1905, he decided that himself and his little son should take new names from the old line of Norwegian kings. This, according to theories, to make a bond to his new country. Therefore King Haakon 8 and Crown Prince Olav (later King Olav 5).

And for the record it think the little princess got very nice name, a combination of old and new!
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I think Ingrid Alexandra are great names for the princess! :flower:
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Norway's New Princess Named

22 JANUARY 2004
Two days after Crown Prince Haakon and Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway welcomed their new daughter, the country's prime minister Kjell Magne Bondevik revealed the little one's name.

The newborn heir to the throne is called Ingrid Alexandra – a moniker, revealed the statesman, which carries significant royal weight.

Ingrid, a popular Norwegian girls' name is also a prominent name in the Bernadotte family tree, including Queen Ingrid, the current Queen Margrethe's mother. "The name… is also used in the crown princess' family, and is therefore a fine combination of the two," explained Bondevik. He also remarked that Alexandra is derived from King Olav, the baby's great-grandfather, who was originally called Alexander.

And as the Norwegian public celebrates the birth of the future queen, first-time dad Crown Prince Haakon has spoken for the first time about his little princess, born on Monday. Calling baby Ingrid "the finest, most beautiful little girl in the world", he said her arrival was "a powerful and wonderful experience".
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OSLO 2004-1-21 - The birth of Crown Princess Mette Marit and Crown Prince Haakon's daughter was honoured by a salute from the Akershus at noon January 21, 2004. Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway gave birth to a daughter 9.14 am Wednesday. According to the Royal family's press officer Sven Gj. Gjeruldsen both the child and her parents are were well.
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OSLO 2004-1-21 - The birth of Crown Princess Mette Marit and Crown Prince Haakon's daughter was honoured by a salute from the Akershus at noon January 21, 2004. Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway gave birth to a daughter 9.14 am Wednesday. According to the Royal family's press officer Sven Gj. Gjeruldsen both the child and her parents are were well.
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TRONDHEIM 2004-01-21 - The birth of Crown Princess Mette Marit and Crown Prince Haakon's daughter was honoured by a salute from the Kristiansten fortress at noon January 21, 2004. Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway gave birth to a daughter 9.14 am Wednesday. According to the Royal family's press officer Sven Gj. Gjeruldsen both the child and her parents are very well.
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King Olav's original names were: Alexander Edward Christian Frederik. Christian Frederik because he was in line for the throne of Denmark, though it wasn't likely he'd inherit. It's the same now: Felix and Nicolai also have those names within, and they're in the same situation: sons of the second son in the Danish Royal family. Alexander and Edward for his maternal grandmother and grandfather.

Princess Ragnhild stated in an interview with VG that she hoped that the princess wouldn't be named after her, as Ragnhild is quite difficult for most foreigners to pronounce. I doubt she thought that her second name might be used.

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