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Old 05-28-2019, 03:05 AM
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According to this article Uranienborg is public: https://www.newsinenglish.no/2019/05...public-school/

I don't know about Norway but here in England it's not common, but obviously has been done. I almost changed schools in the last year (I would've been transferring from private to public like IA had I chosen to do so) due to bullying and poor teaching, though for practical reasons as it was my final school year, I decided to stay on. I know the family has received some criticism for sending IA to a private school, so perhaps the move is based on this.
So she’s got two more years of school left? If the school in Norway is a typical international school it will offer the IB for the last two years of high school, generally with IB prep of some sort the preceding year. If Ingrid knows she can’t or doesn’t want to do the IB for whatever reason it makes sense to change schools for the coming year. The only thing I would find odd was if the school offered the IB’s Middle Years Program and she left before completing the final year of that, just because the natural break point would be to finish the MYP then transfer out.
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An answer to some of the questions here:

Well, let's translate what Assistant Communications Manager at the court, Sven Gjeruldsen, said to TV2 and NRK:
(He spoke to VG too BTW, where he said much of the same.)

TV2:
''Oslo Internasjonale skole følger en internasjonal læreplan, og derfor har elevene ungdomsskole fra 7. til 10. trinn, og ikke 8. til 10. som i offentlig skole.
Det trinnet som prinsessen startet på er ferdig. Nå har hun ett år igjen på ungdomsskolen, og det tar hun på Uranienborg skole.''

Translated to: ''Oslo International School follows an international curriculum, and therefore the students have *Lower secondary school* from Grades 7-10, and not 8-10 as in public school.
The Grades which The Princess started on is finished. Now she has one year left at *Lower secondary school* (if we count after the Norwegian public version, he mean), and that she takes at Uranienborg.''
(From me: Be also aware that the pupils start one year earlier than what they do in the Norwegian school, i.e at the age of 5, not 6.)

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Q. Hvorfor skal prinsessen over i offentlig skole i stedet for å fortsette i Upper secondary på Oslo internasjonale skole?
Why is the Princess going over to public school instead of continuing at Upper secondary at Oslo International School?

A. ''Prinsessen har hatt stort utbytte av å gå på en engelskspråklig skole. Det var naturlig å slutte på Oslo Internasjonale skole nå, fordi Prinsessen er ferdig med det trinnet hun startet på. Prinsessen har fremdeles ett år igjen på norsk ungdomsskole, og ønsker å gå det siste året på Uranienborg skole.''
''The Princess has benefited greatly from attending an English-language school. It was natural to stop at Oslo International School now, because the Princess has finished the Grades she started on. The Princess still has one year left at the Norwegian *Lower secondary school,* and wants to go the last year at Uranienborg.''

Q. Hvorfor falt valget på Uranienborg skole?
Why did the choose fell on Uranienborg school?

A. ''Valget falt på Uranienborg skole ut fra en helhetsvurdering. Kronprinsfamilien ønsket plass på en osloskole. Uranienborg skole ligger rett i nærheten av Slottet, og skolen hadde ledig plass.''
''The choice fell on Uranienborg school based on an overall assessment. The CP-Family wanted a place at an Oslo school. Uranienborg School is located close to The Palace, and the school had vacant space.''

He also said it was too early to say anything about which *Upper secondary school* (high school) The Princess is going to start on in 2020.

From me: Hmm, what he seems to be saying is that it's quite ''natural'' for The Princess (which it obviously is) to take one year at the Norwegian public version of *Lower secondary school* (from 2019-2020) instead of starting at *Upper secondary* at Oslo International School for so dropping out after the first year to start at the public version in the autumn of 2020.

Why is it more ''natural''? Because, as TV2's Royal Expert, Kjell Arne Totland said it, it will most likely make the transition to *Upper secondary school* ''lettere og smidigere'' (easier and smoother).

But couldn't she just have taken the whole Upper secondary thing at Oslo International School? No, she was never going to do that.
Why? Because as Norway's future monarch, she is expected to have gone through a proper education in Norwegian and ''New Norwegian.'' - A written form of the Norwegian language, used by around 10% of the population.

What does the Norwegian press/people make of it?
Well, although it was widely covered on May 27th, I haven't seen ''one'' opinion piece or poll on it.
But, considering that The CP-Couple were heavily criticised by the media, various so-called experts, and several MPs responsible for royal matters in the Storting when they took the children out of the public school in 2014, I think most people are pretty happy about it. So, IMO, a good PR move. Especially now that the monarchy has been up for debate, due to the Märtha stuff.

And to you who wondered about Sverre Magnus, yes, he will (according to the court) continue at the Montessori school.

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The court refers to Ingrid as "Ingrid Alexandra" although the RF always refers to her as just "Ingrid". Again, I´ve never ever heard either the parents nor the King and Queen in interviews ever refered to the Prince "Sverre" or "Sverre Magnus", it´s always Magnus.
It´s of course all right calling him Sverre Magnus for us who are no family members.
But just "Sverre" is a false thing to do.
Well, I won't go into an argument about names. - But again, as long as the court refers to him as ''Sverre Magnus'' (and thus also the media), I will in some instances continue to use/write ''Sverre.'' - Why?
1. It's his first name.
2. It's easier to write/say than using both his names.
3. Almost no one knows who I mean if I just write/say ''Magnus.''

And taking these facts into consideration, no it's not ''false!''
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Old 06-10-2019, 03:11 PM
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So, trying to understand what your saying about the international vs the Norwegian curriculum: Ingrid-Alexandra is now repeating grade 10 as she finished grade 10 at the international school but will take another year at lower secondary education (which runs from 8-10)?
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She is going the last Lower secondary year at Oslo International School now (2018-2019) and will start at the last one at The Norwegian public school (2019-2020) in August this autumn, before starting at Upper secondary (high-school) in the autumn of 2020.
To those who wonder why, read my previous post.
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She is going the last Lower secondary year at Oslo International School now (2018-2019) and will start at the last one at The Norwegian public school (2019-2020) in August this autumn, before starting at Upper secondary (high-school) in the autumn of 2020.
To those who wonder why, read my previous post.



If I understood your post correctly, she will basically repeat Grade 10 in a Norwegian public school just to "ease" her transition to a Norwegian upper secondary school in the following year. That doesn't look "natural" to me and seems to underestimate Ingrid-Alexandra's ability to adapt to a new school system.



Also, I think it would have made more sense to go to a Norwegian school for lower secondary school and then switch to an international school in upper secondary school (as Elisabeth of Belgium did for example moving from a Dutch-speaking Belgian school to an IB program in England in the last 2 years of secondary school). Obviously, her parents had a different opinion.
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:52 PM
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I as every other in her does't know about her marks (what I think is good), but what if she really had to do the 10th grad twice? Wouldnt be such a big thing, many pupils have to.

And what would she do if she didnt go to Uranienborg? Have a leap year That would be a bit early I guess.
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If I understood your post correctly, she will basically repeat Grade 10 in a Norwegian public school just to "ease" her transition to a Norwegian upper secondary school in the following year. That doesn't look "natural" to me and seems to underestimate Ingrid-Alexandra's ability to adapt to a new school system.
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From me: Hmm, what he seems to be saying is that it's quite ''natural'' for The Princess (which it obviously is) to take one year at the Norwegian public version of *Lower secondary school* (from 2019-2020) instead of starting at *Upper secondary* at Oslo International School for so dropping out after the first year to start at the public version in the autumn of 2020.

Why is it more ''natural''? Because, as TV2's Royal Expert, Kjell Arne Totland said it, it will most likely make the transition to *Upper secondary school* ''lettere og smidigere'' (easier and smoother).

But couldn't she just have taken the whole Upper secondary thing at Oslo International School? No, she was never going to do that.
Why? Because as Norway's future monarch, she is expected to have gone through a proper education in Norwegian and ''New Norwegian.'' - A written form of the Norwegian language, used by around 10% of the population.
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It's apparently clear to you but to me it is still confusing. Is she repeating grade 10 (as both Mbruno and I think based on your previous posts)? OR: is grade 10 in international school comparable to grade 9 in public school.

In that case she basically took grades 7-10 in international school while she would jsve taken grades 6-7 (primary school) and 8-9 (out of 8-10) of lower secondary school?!
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Well, I think it's quite clear from my above posts, but let's go even more in detail:
1. She finishes from the ''last'' Lower secondary year (grade 10) at Oslo International School this summer.
2. But in the Norwegian public school system, she still has one year left at Lower secondary (grade 10).
Yes, as I wrote in post 302, the pupils start one year later than what they do in the International school, i.e at the age of 6, not 5.
So, instead of taking a free-year, she (together with her parents) has decided to attend that grade, before starting at Upper secondary school in the autumn of 2020.

Is that a repeating? Yes, but since grade 10 in the public school is in Norwegian, and grade 10 in the International school is in English, they differ quite a lot.
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Thanks for your clarification.

What I still don't fully understand is why I-A cannot attend grade 11 in public school? Is it because of age? Because if she already mastered what is expected of a grade 10 pupil it seems a waste of time to do it again - and strange to force her to take a year of if she doesn't want to repeat a grade...

Or, as I and Mbruno asked previously but you still didn't confirm nor deny: is grade 10 in international school comparable to grade 9 in public school?
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''Grade 11''? Well, if you mean the first year in public Upper secondary school (Videregående skole), that is referred to as VG1. Due to her age, she can't start there before the autumn of 2020.

Is grade 10 in the International school comparable to grade 9 in public school?
When it comes to education, NO!
When it comes to age, YES!
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''Grade 11''? Well, if you mean the first year in public Upper secondary school (Videregående skole), that is referred to as VG1. Due to her age, she can't start there before the autumn of 2020.

Is grade 10 in the International school comparable to grade 9 in public school?
When it comes to education, NO!
When it comes to age, YES!
Thanks, I think I start to understand. So, I-A is forced to repeat grade 10 because the Norwegian public system is rather rigid as age is the leading factor instead of a student's learning.
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She isn't forced! But as I wrote in the above posts (and I explain why), instead of taking one year of Upper secondary at the International school or a free year, it makes sense.
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She isn't forced! But as I wrote in the above posts (and I explain why), instead of taking one year of Upper secondary at the International school or a free year, it makes sense.
Well, not literally forced of course but she is forced by the circumstances and rigid Norwegian system as although she mastered what she had to master to enter upper secondary school she is not allowed in because of age

Could she have taken the first year of Upper Secondary at the international school and afterwards switch to the second year of public Upper Secondary school or would she have had to repeat first year of Upper Secondary school in that case?

So, if taking a year off is an option, does that mean she is past the age of compulsory education? I know that many countries in the South have a somewhat lower age (here it's up to 12 years - but debating to raise it at least to 14) but I would expect Norwegians to require their (15-year old) teenagers to be in school.
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Could she have taken the first year of Upper Secondary at the international school and afterwards switch to the second year of public Upper Secondary school or would she have had to repeat first year of Upper Secondary school in that case?
She would have had to repeat it.
Why? Because she can't start at VG2 before the year she turns 17. And anyway, it would be ''unnecessarily'' difficult for her to come straight from Upper secondary grade 1 in the English language and right to grade 2 in the Norwegian language. Yes, two completely different school-worlds.


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So, if taking a year off is an option, does that mean she is past the age of compulsory education? I know that many countries in the South have a somewhat lower age (here it's up to 12 years - but debating to raise it at least to 14) but I would expect Norwegians to require their (15-year old) teenagers to be in school.
Primary school (Grades 1-7, ages 6-13) and Lower secondary school (Grades 8-10, ages 13-16) are compulsory, so then The CP-Couple would have had to seek permission from the county-municipality.

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I still don't understand how she ended up in 10th grade to begin with . She started school in 2010 at the age of 6

10/11 - 1
11/12 - 2
12/13 - 3
13/14 - 4
14/15 - 5
15/16 - 6
16/17 - 7
17/18 - 8
18/19 - 9

Did she skip a grade somewhere ?
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That's what I wondered about as well, especially since the media wrote that ''she started in 5th grade at the international school in 2014, following 4th grade in public school.'' But the media was probably not aware of the one-year difference between the two schools, and the fact that she then ''most likely'' went right to 6th grade.
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