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Old 03-03-2014, 05:30 PM
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Thanks for the photos!
The family looks lovely. Verbier is quite a winter wonderland.
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The King signing Child Euthanasia Law...a real shame. How can he declares himself Catholic and accept such a Law?
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Old 03-03-2014, 05:58 PM
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The King signing Child Euthanasia Law...a real shame. How can he declares himself Catholic and accept such a Law?
What could he do?

I don't judge him, it is really a delicate and difficult matter to deal with.

He didn't oblige everybody to accept euthanasia, it's personal decision.

If he didn't sign, there would appear more problems.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:06 PM
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The last time Grand Duke Henry refused to sign a law because of his beliefs, "... it was announced by Minister of State Jean-Claude Juncker that a Constitutional Amendment would be proposed, whereby the signature of the monarch would no longer be necessary for a law to take effect" (Wikipedia). King Philippe may dislike the law, but he has to avoid any crises.
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Old 03-03-2014, 06:14 PM
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I have no doubt that King Philippe will have considered his position on the matter not only as a Catholic king, but as a parent.
Euthanasia does not take place here in the UK, yet the practice of continually increasing the dosage of morphine to terminally ill patients does take place and it is practically the same thing as euthanasia.
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He should not be considered Catholic anymore!
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:41 AM
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:41 AM
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What a lovely family!
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:56 AM
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The Monarch Catholic or not has to sign the law allowing Euthanasia as it was voted at the Parliament
Unbelievable to do as King Baudouin did in the past , it would the end of our Monarchy.
King Baudouin 's problem was the He could not do the difference between his King's conscience and his personal conscience.
The Euthanasia is allowed only if 3 Doctors gives the SAME advice that the illness is absolutely incurable and that the Child suffers a lot.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:41 AM
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He should not be considered Catholic anymore!
but he's not a political figure! He signs a law but de facto he's not involved in the law making process. If the Parliament and the Government decide that a law should pass then he have to sign it.
He may be a Catholic but he's a Head of State in a secular country and he swore upon the constitution to respect "the laws of the Belgian people" not just the catholic Belgians. (and I'm saying that as a catholic)
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:14 AM
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Well said Marchesina , thank you so much !
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Old 03-05-2014, 02:00 PM
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The King signing Child Euthanasia Law...a real shame. How can he declares himself Catholic and accept such a Law?
Everybody is entitled to their own believes and values and i'm not trying to 'convince' people or anything, but for me
Euthanasia, provided it is used with great care and only after trying to find any other solution, can be a solution for people whose suffering is considered inhumane and without other means to end the suffering.

I recently saw a documentary about a women who had suffered for years and years and nobody could help her and eventually in her desparation she committed suicide by jumping of a tall building (several saw her action and were left traumatized); i couldn't help but thinking that had this woman be allowed to die with grace and dignity that would have been better for a lot of people
(btw, i'm also a catholic..)
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Thanks for the photos of King Philippe and Queen Mathilde and their children in Verbier, iceflower. Princess Elisabeth has gotten really tall now, as has Eleonore! Verbier seems to be a popular Winter Holiday destination with the royals, Prince Harry went there last year (or was it the year before?) with Cressida and The Danish CP Family go there often.

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The King signing Child Euthanasia Law...a real shame. How can he declares himself Catholic and accept such a Law?
Perhaps Philippe was told by an official who supported the Child Euthanasia Law that he should sign the Law documents, because as others have pointed out, there would be some criticism if he refused. Although some of us are criticising Philippe for signing the Law, so I guess this is a situation where he will be criticized if he doesn't, and criticized if he does.

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The last time Grand Duke Henry refused to sign a law because of his beliefs, "... it was announced by Minister of State Jean-Claude Juncker that a Constitutional Amendment would be proposed, whereby the signature of the monarch would no longer be necessary for a law to take effect" (Wikipedia). King Philippe may dislike the law, but he has to avoid any crises.
This question is off-topic in this thread so my apologies, but just out of curiosity, what was the law that Grand Duke Henri refused to sign? Did they ever make it a law in Luxembourg?
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:31 PM
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On December 2 Grand Duke Henri, who is a Roman Catholic, told the prime minister, Jean-Claude Juncker, that he could not sign the euthanasia bill. The parliament had approved the bill in a first reading on February 18 by a vote of 30-26.
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Thanks for your answer, Al_bina. I didn't realize that it was a Child Euthanasia Law as well.

Back on-topic.
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King Philippe and Queen Mathilde received UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon and his wife at Laeken Castle yesterday, April 1.



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King Philippe and Queen Mathilde received the participants of the EU-Africa summit at the Royal Palace in Brussels yesterday, April 3:




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King Philippe and Queen Mathilde received UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon and his wife at Laeken Castle yesterday, April 1.



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It's interesting that diplomatic audiences are given not only at the Brussels Palace but also at Laeken.
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No King Philippe changed , all the audiences are now at the Brussel's Royal Palace in front of the Parliament . His Father did all in Laeken , living in Belvedere Castle it is just across the road. The belgian politics appreciate very much.
For the President of China and the Secretary General it was more official !
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Old 04-04-2014, 12:59 PM
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No King Philippe changed , all the audiences are now at the Brussel's Royal Palace in front of the Parliament . His Father did all in Laeken , living in Belvedere Castle it is just across the road. The belgian politics appreciate very much.
For the President of China and the Secretary General it was more official !
Is the caption for the photo at #96, above, incorrect, that refers to Laeken?
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