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Old 09-30-2008, 04:40 PM
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But even more strange is that in one of the death-announcements of the Family also his late daughter Mare-Alix is mentioned with the Title Countess.
They sometimes do that here too. Not with Royals but with other people. And when they write the name of a dead member of the family in an anouncement in the newspaper in example, it is a cross behind it to point out that the person is gone. I don't see it too often, but I see it a few times a year.

It is really heartbreaking to see how sad they all are. I'm really orry for their loss. It must have been a very sad and hard time for them.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:50 PM
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They sometimes do that here too. Not with Royals but with other people. And when they write the name of a dead member of the family in an anouncement in the newspaper in example, it is a cross behind it to point out that the person is gone. I don't see it too often, but I see it a few times a year.

It is really heartbreaking to see how sad they all are. I'm really orry for their loss. It must have been a very sad and hard time for them.
Yes this was also the case here. But why give her the Title Countess in the announcement when she was never one during her lifetime.
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:00 PM
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On this video you can hear Mathilde speaking at the funeral (click on the icon on the right side)
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:11 PM
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On this video you can hear Mathilde speaking at the funeral (click on the icon on the right side)
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That was very difficult for me to watch. Very touching.
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On this video you can hear Mathilde speaking at the funeral (click on the icon on the right side)
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Thank you for posting the link. Even though I could not understand what Crown Princess Mathilde was saying I could hear the emotion in her voice.

The part I found most touching was towards the beginning when Mathilde reached behind her for Phillipe's hand for support.
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all our condoleance may god bless this soul in heaven and let there familly in good feelings after the death .
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Before Mathilde was married to the prince:
Baron Henri d'Udekem d'Acoz (eldest)
Squire Patrick & Countess Anne Komorowski
- Noble woman Mathilde
- Noble woman Elisabeth
- Noble woman Hélène
- Squire Charles -Henri
Squire Roaul

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Count Henri & Countess Anne Komorovski
Count Patrick
- Princess Mathilde
- Countess Elisabeth (now marquise Pallavicini)
- Countess Hélène
- Count Charles-Henri
Count Roaul

So after the death of Patrick, nothing about the titles has changed.

I may be totally wrong but I remember at the time of Matilde's wedding to Phillipe her father was not titled Count. His elder brother had the title and the King anobled Matilde's father before the wedding so he could escort her on her wedding day as a Count.
Is this correct?
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I may be totally wrong but I remember at the time of Matilde's wedding to Phillipe her father was not titled Count. His elder brother had the title and the King anobled Matilde's father before the wedding so he could escort her on her wedding day as a Count.
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Yes, thats how I understood it.
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I may be totally wrong but I remember at the time of Matilde's wedding to Phillipe her father was not titled Count. His elder brother had the title and the King anobled Matilde's father before the wedding so he could escort her on her wedding day as a Count.
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Yes and no The oldest brother of Mathilde's father was the Baron d'Udekem d'Acoz not Count. His 2 younger brothers and their descendants where Jonkheer/Jonkvrouw. The King granted the 3 brothers the Title Count which came in effect the day of the marriage. Since then they and their descendants are Count/Countess d'Udekem d'Acoz.
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Thank you to those who posted links to videos of the funeral. I felt as though I was intruding on such a private family event that I had to stop within just a few seconds. It is never easy when one loses a beloved parent.
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i sorry but I can not find the link could someone please put up another link!
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Here's is another link. It's somewhere halfway this video.
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Mathilde looks heartbroken (understandably). I am so sorry for her family's loss.
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thanks so much for the link! does anyone know what the princess said on the video?
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Apparently princess Mathilde spoke the following at the funeral:

'Papa, I don't say goodbye to you but 'see you'* All that you gave is is like seeds that will grow into a tree. We will see you again, together with Marie-Alix'.

In Dutch, an article here.

* = (in Dutch: tot ziens, sounds more informal in English but I do not know any other translation for it)

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It was reported that Patrick d'udekem d'Acoz was able to see his grand daughter Eleonore when he came out of his coma for a while.
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No wonder I got chills down my back when I heard the emotions in her voice. She said exactly what I did in my fathers funeral. And I don't understand french, so I'm thankful for the translation of what she said. I knew there was "something" with the words she spoke. Now I know. They are familiar, but yet in another language.

But even if I did not know the words untill now, I felt the emotions. I'm so sorry for their loss. And I'm happy to know that her father got to see Eleonore.
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No wonder I got chills down my back when I heard the emotions in her voice. She said exactly what I did in my fathers funeral. And I don't understand french, so I'm thankful for the translation of what she said. I knew there was "something" with the words she spoke. Now I know. They are familiar, but yet in another language.

But even if I did not know the words untill now, I felt the emotions. I'm so sorry for their loss. And I'm happy to know that her father got to see Eleonore.
Apparently Mathilde did have a tough time to control her emotions before she started reading her text so Philippe went to her side to support her.
Patrick’s children all addressed their father with some personal words. Elisabeth thanked him for being generous and supportive, a rock to rest on.
Hélène highlighted his simplicity and humour but had to interrupt herself since she was struggling with her tears.
And Charles-Henri said that even when he was completely weakened Patrick’s inner strength never faded and all this time the beauty of his soul was still intact. Philippe read a passage from the bible and I assume Elisabeth’s husband also contributed to the mass.
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I was wondering about the same. He has been burried on the same graveyard as his parents-in-law, the count Leon Kamorovski and princess Sophia Sapieha. Marie-Alix has been burried at the Udekem family vault. Perhaps they will move the coffin of his daugter to St.Pierre later? As for the reasons, maybe he wants to be burried closer to the place where he spent most of his life or maybe the Udekem feud has something to do with it.
You are right. According to several reports Marie-Alix will be exhumed, transferred to Lutrebois and re-buried next to her father and her maternal grandparents (seems there will be a vault once everything is settled). This was the explicit wish of Mathilde´s father. To see them united in one vault sure makes it easier for his widow and the distance Losange-Proven is more than 300km after all. And most likely it was indeed also his way to draw a line since the stubborn d'Udekem brothers also fought over a house in Proven, which was meant to be a resting place after visiting Marie-Alix’s grave.
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It means a second burial once the vault is ready... must be horrible to see that twice !
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oh so sad, my condolences to all his family, the death of a father should be terrible
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