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Old 01-03-2008, 07:15 PM
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I read the Sun, Mail and the Times ever since I became a law student, to get a balanced view of the press. Every paper has the same opinion of the latest treaty, that the people should decide whether we are subject to it. However I did not take any of their views. I took my own view of this country and the latest developments with regard to our privacy and how much we are monitored, (UK has 20% of the world's surveillance cameras), and typed into google, 'England police state'. Try it. Find out what our country is like.
I know I am going to get hand slapped for this, but I have to say that I understand your concern about 20% of the world's surveillance cameras. After 9/11 here, I am among what appears to be a minority that are VERY CONCERNED about our willingness to surrender some basic and cherished freedoms for so called security. I find it extremely troubling and alarming.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:23 PM
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if William had become King and she were still alive, would he have had the ability to restore the HRH to her, based on her being the mother of the King?
He would be able to do so indeed. It wouldn't even need to officially be because of her being his mother. He could do it "just because" if he wanted.
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:32 AM
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This morning I thought about my husband's grandmother turning 85 this week and suddenly thought that I bet Charles prays every night that his mother will continue to live and reign in good health for as long as possible.

Because I seriously doubt Charles will like to sit on the throne, have the right to be consulted and thus the right to know all and not be able to do anything. He will hate every decision which will be made in his name that he doesn't conform with and that will really pain him. He is too caring and too nice for the job - to be king you need a toughness of the soul that he might not want to possess. Just my thoughts....
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:52 AM
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I don't think that HRH the Prince of Wales should be allowed to reign. He doesn't know how to play the game, You marry for the good of the monarchy and not for yourself. He should not be allowed to reign since he married out of nobility.

And Jo of Palatine makes a good point His Royal Highness is too nice and caring to be King.
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:05 AM
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I don't think that HRH the Prince of Wales should be allowed to reign. He doesn't know how to play the game, You marry for the good of the monarchy and not for yourself. He should not be allowed to reign since he married out of nobility.

And Jo of Palatine makes a good point His Royal Highness is too nice and caring to be King.
Erm... I think exactly because he is a nice and caring man he will be a wonderful king one day. I only hope he will have the chance to continue the part of his work only the heir can do for as long as possible and then William can step right in.

Why do you think he married out of the nobility? Camilla has quite some Royal ancestors and her family is firmly established within the British aristocracy.

But on thinking so: prince William had not even a Royal mother as hasn't Haakon of Norway, who in addition married a commoner. Willem-Alexander of The Netherlands, Naruhito of Japan, Frederick of Denmark, Felipe of Spain, The Grand Duke of Luxemburg and the king of Sweden - they all married commoners. Philippe of Belgium and Queen beatrix settled on members of the minor aristocracy. Let's see if Victoria takes a husband of noble descent.... So in your opinion they are all not worthy to reign due to their choice of spouses? Back to the 1800s, are we?
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:18 AM
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You bring up a good point thanks for correcting me.

But
1. Aristocracy is not Nobility, Camilla may have had money but she didn't have a Title.
2. British royals have always been more inclined to marry royalty, especially if your the Heir to the throne.

I have the greatest respect for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II But isn't the whole reason Her Majesty is Queen in the first place is that her uncle HRH the Duke of Windsor couldn't perform his duty and marry royalty.
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Time to open a new thread discussing whether Prince CHarles will become King.
Thank you all for your most interesting opinions, reasons and many good points!

The new thread can be found here.
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