Will Camilla ever become Queen?

[corazon]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

Corazon - I'm trying so hard to explain as simply as I can. When the Queen dies, Charles will become King. Whether you recognise him or not, thats what he'll be. King of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc etc etc. Camilla, as his wife, will be Queen. She will be Queen of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland. She will be the British Queen. She is the future Queen of every British subject and every subject in our foreign realms too. So yes, it's very simple - she will be Queen for the British - not for the Americans, not for the Germans, not for the French, for the British - thats her future position and if you don't like it then you better get used to it because it's going to happen.

and if she can used the title? like duchess of windsor

[BeatrixFan]

If she does become the queen, as you say, I think that it will the end of monorachy in Britain. Can you imagine "Queen Camilla"????The sound of it makes me...

Yes I can imagine Queen Camilla and it won't be the end of the Monarchy. If it is it will be a British affair and nothing to do with anybody else. So you can .... all you like.

[BeatrixFan]

What on earth has the Duchess of Windsor got to do with anything?

[BeatrixFan]

It doesn't matter what foreign people think - it matters what the British people think and if they accept her, as they have as Duchess and will as Queen, then thats all we need to worry about.

[corazon]

in monaco has a law similar and prnce reinero with the parliament change the law for andrea can be prince later alberts if he not have sons or daughters, the law can change if the moanrch want the change. For that I said, we don't know what will be happend in the next years.

[BeatrixFan]

I bet you if you ask some Americans in 3 months what they thought of the visit, many of them won't even remember it

It doesn't matter what the Americans think! Do you honestly think we need American approval of our Queen? No we don't thankyou very much. Diana is dead. Maybe you've been underground for 8 years? She is dead. She isn't coming back. She would have been a hopeless Queen just as she was a terrible wife and I for one am glad she is out of the way and a true British woman displaying true British qualities is going to rule alongside our Queen. She can do what she likes, when she likes, she can wear what she likes - she has the man she loves and it drives you all mad doesn't it? Well thats life - she's going to be our Queen and Diana will be forever confined to the pages of a history book.

[corazon]

why for everything is for some about diana? nobody said nothing about diana, camilla never can be comparated with diana, diana is dead and MANY people in the world still love her, but if charles become king or not nos will be for diana, will be for himself, and camila ,ayne become queen or may be she dead we cant know the future.
And may be diana in this moments is in a history book, but she is for herself, not for the the wife of charles, and she ever will be in history book because she IS the future's king mother. Nothing can change the fact that william ever will be charles and diana's son, not charles and camilla's son. and some day (may be soon many not) in england will have like king a diana's son.

[BeatrixFan]

I give up.

[corazon]

I dont want charles become king for the monarchy, not for diana. If charles has remorse must clarify it with his conscience, not with me.. .
this not is for diana or william-.

[ysbel]

polop, I must say that the way you started this thread was a bit deceptive.

You asked a seemingly open question to which you already had a strong opinion on. Only when others started posting opinions different than yours, did you come out with yours and your opinions were so forceful it appears doubtful that anyone can change your opinion.

It would have been a bit more open and honest to your fellow members, if you had stated upfront your strongly held opinions.

That is just my opinion.

[sara1981]

im not going give Camilla become Queen neither!

but i would disagree with posts because i wanted Prince Charles nor Prince William to become King after HM Queen's death but i do support Prince Charles for become King and also William too! but i wanted to remind Princess Diana

[corazon]

Originally Posted by sara1981

im not going give Camilla become Queen neither!

but i would disagree with posts because i wanted Prince Charles nor Prince William to become King after HM Queen's death but i do support Prince Charles for become King and also William too! but i wanted to remind Princess Diana

sarah, i agree with you, but I don't want that charles besome in king, :o

[branchg]

Camilla will be Queen. And unlike the present situation, she cannot assume the title of Princess Consort without Parliament passing legislation allowing her to do so. This is because of 1936 and the legal precedents established at the time in which the wife of the King is automatically Queen, unless Parliament approves another style.

In the case of Edward VIII, the Prime Minister, opposition parties and the Dominions all refused to introduce legislation allowing Wallis to assume another title and style as the wife of the King, rather than Queen. Edward could have married her without the approval of his ministers, but the Government would have resigned in protest, causing a constitutional crisis. He abdicated to avoid a conflict between the Crown and Parliament over the marriage.

[Elspeth]

ENOUGH.

It would appear that some of you people don't know when to stop pushing your luck. I was wondering why the Charles/Camilla/Diana thread wasn't getting a lot of posts recently, and I see it's because the circus has left town and fetched up here. We have the same people making the same posts, talking past each other, saying nothing new but rehashing the exact same stuff from the other thread, dividing into cliques and defending extreme positions with no tolerance or consideration for others, and as a result we have posters who have given up even trying to contribute.

Warren, Martine, and I have been hearing from long-time members of these forums who are no longer posting in the Wales threads, or even in the British forum, because of the constant in-fighting. Even some of the other moderators have said that they no longer come here because reading this stuff is no pleasure and joining in the conversation is a sure way to invite being dumped on by the pro-Diana clique or the pro-Camilla clique - and I'm using the word "clique" deliberately, because that's what seems to have developed.

There's serious talk among the administrators of closing the entire British forum for a cooling-off period because it's becoming so unpleasant in here. There's also talk of handing out mass suspensions if this nonsense keeps up, because there's obviously a hard core of people who aren't paying attention to what the moderators are saying. These threads are for conversations about the royals; they aren't for worshippers of Diana to martyr themselves against all comers in her memory, they aren't for Diana haters to trash her reputation, they aren't for cheerleading posts and egging on posters who are busy trashing either royals or other posters, and they aren't for Little Englanders to tell foreign posters to keep their opinions to themselves. And above all, they aren't for people to post unsubstantiated gossip and innuendo and call it truth.

We try to keep the discussions as open as possible, but this privilege is being abused constantly in threads on the subject of Charles and his past and future. Therefore, from now on the moderation team is going to start applying the rules more strictly, which will mean a lot more editing and deleting of posts and warnings and suspensions of people who persist in waging war. And if that doesn't help, you can look forward to having the forum closed for a while. It absolutely beggars belief that a bunch of adults can't be civilised in an online conversation but have to start dividing into armed camps and waging war.

To be blunt, I'd rather see the return of the people who have left in despair at the juvenile level of "discussion" on these topics than a continuation of said "discussion." When we reach the point, which we seem to have done, where less valuable members are chasing away more valuable ones, things need to change. The one-dimensional posters among you can start engaging in adult discussion or you're going to run the risk of being removed from the board so that the grown-ups can come back. I'm not prepared to carry on spending this many hours each week trying to referee this mess when so many of the people involved are showing precious few signs of wanting a mature discussion. We're not interested in having playground wars. Those of you whose major interest in this topic is to take entrenched positions and launch grenades at the other side are cordially invited to grow up or get the hell out.

Thank you.

Elspeth

Royal Forums administrator.