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Old 03-09-2011, 11:23 PM
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I do think that one point that people are overlooking is that this visit has been arranged at relatively short notice but normally the royals and their calendars are organised 6 months or more in advance so it may be that William was free but that Charles has some long-standing engagements that simply couldn't be cancelled without giving unnecessary offence.
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:57 PM
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Or could it be they invited William because he's the hot commodity right now and his presence would give much publicity to such a tragic occurence? I realize Charles is POW but William is far more popular with the people/papers/world media ? Just throwing out suggestions
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I do think that one point that people are overlooking is that this visit has been arranged at relatively short notice but normally the royals and their calendars are organised 6 months or more in advance so it may be that William was free but that Charles has some long-standing engagements that simply couldn't be cancelled without giving unnecessary offence.
No I don't believe anyone is overlooking anything here. We are all perfectly aware of the 'diary priority'.

As such, it will be most interesting to see what infact Charles and Camilla have planned, publically or in any official capacity, during the time his son is in New Zealand and Australia.

If we are talking of meetings and phone calls, then I do believe there would be a way for such things to be temporarily put on hold for not even a week of absence. Certainly so. In any case, that's what staff are for. Finding ways to work around itineraries in light of engagements which would (should) require the presence of either the monarch, or in her place, the heir.

When the Princess Royal represented her mother here in 2009, I was perfecly content with her presence as I know she is a fine lady with a tremendous work ethic and the Queen is said to have asked Anne near immediately upon receiving the invite to travel in her name. She was her first option.

Upon receiving this invite, it has been reported that the Queen, Prince of Wales and Prince William came to a decision that he should visit on his grandmothers behalf. Thus suggesting that the Prince of Wales, by all accounts, gave counsel in the decision making process. To me, that speaks volumes as to the reluctance of Charles to front up himself.

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For sure that is a major factor. And don't get me wrong, William is a perfectly capable and popular choice and will again be welcomed most agreeably. But he isn't his father and given the nature of the invitation, his father should be undertaking the task.

Good on William though. His presence will I'm sure bring a smile to the faces of a good many people in the area's he shall visit.
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:00 AM
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Unless the Queen is coming herself, to me, one descendent is pretty much the same as another - Charles can be interchanged with Anne or William - they are all much of a muchness these days.

As the Queen isn't coming it doesn't matter who she sends to represent her.


If this report is right then that may very well be a reason for choosing William

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_642396.html
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:39 PM
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The Spanish visit dates are not clear and it's likely that William will be back in the UK before his father leaves for Spain. Further, official visit to Spain or not, I recall that the King of Spain and Charles are close personal friends.

If Charles wants to be King of Australia and New Zealand he should show some respect and concern for the immense suffering of so very many. The cyclone and floods which hit Australia were far from ordinary occurrences and widespread over an area larger than the size of western Europe. The destruction of beautiful Christchurch and the resultant loss of life and the continuing traumatic state of many of the locals, added to the difficulties of day to day living combined with the real fear of further after shocks, should have made him eager to visit and offer his sympathy and encouragement. In the final analysis, that's a major part of the royal family's rationale and function in today's world.

I, like many, feel greatly disappointed in Charles' decision.
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:43 PM
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I didn't know that Charles and Camilla were going to Canada as well as William and Kate.
My apologies to everyone. I thought I was in the William and Kate thread.
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:28 PM
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I think Charles is fully aware of the fact that most Australians do not want him as our King for one thing.
Just because the Spanish trip will be after William's return doesn't mean that Charles and Camilla could do a trip like that and recover properly to go to Spain within a couple of days.
Doing a five day trip down under with 24 hours flying either side will lead to adjustment problems time-wise as well and to expect a 62 year old to make that trip to a land where he suspects he isn't all that welcome and that his wife is even less welcome (rightly or wrongly - that is the perception that Charles would be getting from the media here and the numerous opinion polls - wanting to be a republic after the Queen dies or having William as the next King).
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:16 AM
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I don't care if Charles and/or Camilla would be tired after their journey. Being aged 62 is irrelevant, IMO. He's fit as a trout and this sort of trip is part of his job, the job that gives him enormous wealth and privilege for life. He and his wife will be the next King and Queen of the UK no matter what Camilla will be known as, and, if the Australian republic is not made a fact before his mother's death, he will be the next monarch and head of state of my country. If Charles holds the perception that he will not be welcome and that his wife will be even less welcome, and that has been a significant factor in them not coming, he has disappointed me enormously. He has no courage if this is the case, and I thought he did, and he has gone way down in my estimation.
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Article by Matthew Parris, The Times:

It is Prince Charles's duty to go to Australia | Matthew Parris - Times Online
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Why have you posted a link to an article that is 2 years old?
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Why do you think ??
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Why do you think ??

If I could think of any valid reason to post a story that is two years old I wouldn't have asked the question would I?

I asked a question for the simple reason that I could see no reason to post that story about the fires in 2009 now in 2011.
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Since the Tour thread is locked for now this seems the most appropriate place to say this.

I am squealing with delight at the news that Charles and Camilla are coming here next year. I have been hoping they would ever since they married and I plan on making an effort to see them if they come to Sydney or Brisbane.
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I wish someone from the BRF would come and visit us here in Hawaii. Considering the ties between Hawaii and the U.K. go way back. I wish they would consider us at some point, we would love to see them.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:33 PM
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It isn't up to them to decide where to do officially - it is up the US government to invite them and to decide on the itinerary. If you want that then you need to get your government to invite them.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:39 PM
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Oh. I didnt know that. So then that means the President would have to invite them or our Governor? I guess I could mail a letter to our Governor with a reason to invite them. I know alot of people would love to have them visit. I think it would be a great opportunity for them to learn about the link between Hawaii and the U.K. if they dont already know. Well darn it, they would just love it here.
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:58 PM
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I don't know how it works in the US between the Federal and State governments in that regard.
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Oh. I didnt know that. So then that means the President would have to invite them or our Governor? I guess I could mail a letter to our Governor with a reason to invite them. I know alot of people would love to have them visit. I think it would be a great opportunity for them to learn about the link between Hawaii and the U.K. if they dont already know. Well darn it, they would just love it here.
Probably you would have better luck if you could find a special anniversary of a link between Hawaii or the Kingdom of Hawaii such as a treaty, or a link to Captain Cook or perhaps the Anglican Church.
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Good idea. There are numerous historical artifacts here that prove absolute links. There are also our books that were written by our Kings that give all the information. The artifacts, letters etc, are in the palaces throughout Hawaii. But the main artifacts are at the museum and the Palace on Oahu. There is plenty to show the royals if they ever did come.
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