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Old 08-27-2007, 01:45 PM
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Hi everyone, this is my first post!

Regarding Diana’s memorial… I can say I am a very loyal “Diana fan” and I was upset Camilla was going to the memorial. From my point of view it would be inappropriate, but they wouldn’t be the only ones I think shouldn’t be there (for the only reason lots of these people didn’t like Princess Diana at all). I don’t think too much of the princes inviting her because, come on, even if they didn’t want her there they couldn’t really say no. Maybe they wanted her, maybe not, I really don’t know and in my opinion it doesn’t matter. Since she’s Prince Charles’s wife and HE was going to be there, I thought she should be too, as his wife.

Even though I really don’t like her that much, I think Camilla was the victim here and I feel very sorry for her. She was in a difficult position to start with, and I agree with the poster who said they should have thought VERY carefully before any announcement was made and LISTEN to the Queen’s advice seriously – she’s the Queen after all. They way it has been done is so terrible, it shows the Royal family bowing to the press, and not only the press in general, but BAD press at the LAST minute. Who knows what they will do in the future to avoid being seen as the “bad guys”.

Having said that, in my opinion, the biggest one to blame in this whole fiasco is Charles. I don’t care what his advisers were telling him, he’s supposed to make the final decision and it seems – from several accounts – Camilla didn’t want to go from the beginning but he INSISTED. As usual, it’s always about him, if HE wants her to be there she has to be there, no matter what . Pulling out this late, and only after the Queen’s intervention just shows – again – how weak he is, as a man, as a husband, as a prince.

I cannot even imagine the monarchy after QEII is gone… it’s not going to be any good.

All this in my opinion, of course!
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:45 PM
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It would have been wise to think over a decision very very carefully in the beginning, BEFORE going public with it, considering all reactions, be it from the public or internally. After what the BRF has gone through in terms of Diana in life and death no reaction can be considered "unexpectedly" or "not to be foreseen" regarding Camilla taking part in a memorial service for Diana.

Then, when the decision is taken, STICK WITH IT!

If Camilla or Clarence House decides she goes, then she has to go, no matter what and not give in to critizism from whatever party.
If they decided she won't go, it had to be done in the beginning, with a short statement everyone would have understood or appreciated.

Another blunder from Clarence House's so called public reations department but as it happens again and again I wonder if the true reason for the newest PR desaster is Charles being totally immune to any suitable advise. He is the true loser here, because I believe the people won't really blame the Dutchess but Charles stubbornity and lack of seeing the sign of the times for this masterpiece of embarressment to the monarchy.
You have done an excellent job of grasping the essence of the controversy and clothing it in words. My compliments....
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:14 PM
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If the public can be so powerful in keeping the Duchess away from a simple church service, then we should sit back and watch the Republic of Great Britain take form.

This opinionally twisted service marks not forgiveness and healing but division and pain. Diana would not want that for William nor Harry. The service was to mark "time marches on but we remember a mother and humanitarian" and "Forgiveness and grace offered....whether deserved or not".

It is very simple....It matters not whether we "like" Prince Charles or his wife, it is imperative to support the couple or William might not ever be king.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:23 PM
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sorry to say this i dont want you upset but im glad shes not going anymore. the queen doesnt show much friendship for camilla (i can understand why) and diana didnt like her (i can understand why). dianas sons forgave camilla thats fine but it doesnt mean she has to be present in dianas services. one thing is to forgive another thing is to forget.

i am very proud of queen elizabeth ii and cause of that i am going to change my avatar right now :)
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:41 PM
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There was just as much to forgive Diana as there is to forgive Camilla, imo.

But lest we forget Camilla and Charles both publically acknowledged "sin" and publically asked for forgiveness and blessing of their union within the boundaries of a religious blessing. If Her Majesty allowed herself to attend their service of blessing at St. George's, at what point is Camilla forgiven and recognized as Charles' current wife and stepmother to the future king and his brother by us mere mortals?

The focus is rightly upon Diana for this sad hour. Due to (a misguided, imo) a public outcry.

Diana touched us all with passion..and had a soft spot for the "rejected by society" (Bashir interview)....Well, I say Camilla has fallen into the "rejected" catagory and Diana herself would be appalled of our behavior towards her...for the sake of William and Harry.

(Although I am sure Diana is floating around with a bit of a good and wicked giggle that Camilla was so maligned by her ever so rabid devotees!!)
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:49 PM
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The Truth--of course I agreed with you! How could I not? And, lovely website/blog. Nice photos!
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:55 PM
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I do see your point, Jo. But I also believe that it's good for Camilla to use the Cornwall/Chester/Rothesay title instead of PoW for the reason that it sets her apart from Diana.
Just one little point, Diana was never the Princess of Wales in Scotland, only the Duchess of Rothesay.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:00 PM
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After a day is past and i had some time to think about it, i´m still sad and disappointed, and i also feel after this decsion something has changed in my pic of the British Royals.

I will ignore this memorial service, i´m no longer interested in it. I don´t want to watch it on TV or read about it in the press.

I´m convinced that Camilla gets not enough support from the Royal Family. It´s a shame to make a victim of her. I´m dissppointed because of the weakness and inconsistance of the Royals. There are first class and second class members in their family?

I´m no longer conviced that there will be a King Charles and a Queen Camilla. The next King and Queen will be made by Kay and Co.

I´m disappointed of Charles too ( although i still love him ) because i would expect of him that he doesn´t allowed to treat his wife this way.

These Diana-fans who say that the Princess is an icon or legend, but who don´t know words like forgiveness and love, are guilty (in my mind) too of what happend now.
For the moment i´m not interested in talking to them any more. ( I don´t mean real and honest fans who never wanted this situation)

I will support Charles and Camilla on their way because i think they do so many things great, and they are still my Darling Royals.
But i hope that something like that will never happen again. I couldn´t bear it again, or then i would start to demonstrate for a British republic...
Well said milla Ca, my sentiments also. The dogs (including Monkton) are not going to leave it.....
Diana's memorial 'overshadowed by Camilla' - Telegraph
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:12 PM
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In the immediate aftermath of Princess Diana's death, it would have been impossible to imagine Camilla Parker Bowles attending a memorial to her erstwhile rival for Prince Charles's affections.
Yet on Monday, after Camilla unexpectedly pulled out of this week's 10th anniversary service despite an invitation from her now-husband and Diana's two sons, there was palpable regret in the British media, and acknowledgment of her dignity.

Prince Charles's wife emerges from Diana's shadow | Lifestyle | Living | Reuters

Just one point (yes another one ) Charles never said he wanted to come back as Camillas tampon, he actually said - Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck!
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:19 PM
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I am very glad she is not going. I think it would take away from the service.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:29 PM
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the queen doesnt show much friendship for camilla (i can understand why)
There's absolutely no evidence to support that, indeed, the Queen seems to get on very well with her daughter-in-law. Don't think that because the lunatics are destroying the asylum pure fantasy is going to go un-noticed. And if there relationship is strained, I'm sure they'll have plenty of time to get used to each other -in exile.
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There's absolutely no evidence to support that, indeed, the Queen seems to get on very well with her daughter-in-law.
mmm... didnt you heard the "excuse" the Queen gave for not being present in Camillas birthday ?
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:46 PM
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Camilla is a smart woman. To please her step-sons and husband, she accepted the invitation, but I believe that from the start she dreaded going. She was very right to make the decision not to attend the memorial -- "better late than never". To have gone would have given fodder for the press for years to come.....
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:52 PM
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mmm... didnt you heard the "excuse" the Queen gave for not being present in Camillas birthday ?
I heard nothing from the Queen. I heard plenty from journalists, plenty from those who would love to hear the Queen bash Camilla to justify their own unfounded cruelty against the Duchess but nothing from the Queen herself.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:17 PM
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I will watch the service because of William and Harry but I feel they could have also included Diana's employees the likes of Burrell, Jephson, McGrady and Mendham...It would have also been nice to have James Whitaker, Arthur Edwards and a few others who created and toiled for hours to give us the real Diana and not the sanitized, edited and maligned Windsor version.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:24 PM
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After a day is gone and the bad news sagged, I´ve another view on it. I see Camilla alone in the field surrounded by nasty press and laughed at hardcore-diana-fans. And very far from her are the Royal family, her stepsons and...her husband! There is no sign from Charles! Ok, I think he is deep hurted by the situation and very angry about the attacks on Camilla. But, as caring husband I imagine another reaction. I think the statement had has to come from him, somethin like "my wife and I decided...". I´m still a great admirer of him but, a little bad feeling is staying.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:36 PM
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I can understand why the Princes wished to have a memorial for their mother, but I hope in the future if they want to have another service, they do so privately. It's a shame so much controversy has been created over this and that so many people - dead or alive - have been criticized. I say that out of concern for them and others.

It truly is a shame how Camilla, Diana, and Charles are continually criticized. Diana is dead - she can't defend herself, nor will we ever know what she would think if she were alive today. Camilla and Charles have admitted their transgressions, yet they continue to be judged over and over and over, particularly Camilla. I'm concerned how others have thrown out the golden rule - do unto others as you would have them do on to you. How many of us want to be persecuted and judged for mistakes we made in the past - mistakes we admitted to and asked forgiveness for? And how many of us would liked to be judged by bystanders not even part of the situation to begin with.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:38 PM
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camilla caused the divorce of charles and diana, not the duke of edinburgh. if camilla hadnt cheat on andrew charlles wouldnt divorce diana.

its a matter of taste and manners i guess. if i caused a divorce i wouldnt be present in the womans memorial. its not kosher at all.
while camilla and charles infidelity was part of the reason for the divorce i doubt it was the end all and be all. both charles and diana didn't want to admit that they never should have married to begin with. diana was in love with an idea and charles let himself be pushed into a marriage that he had no interest in to begin with.
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mmm... didnt you heard the "excuse" the Queen gave for not being present in Camillas birthday ?
No, perhaps you could post a link to the statement or press release.
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