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Old 08-13-2007, 01:51 PM
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In point of fact, there are many states in the US in which adultery is a criminal act.

In New York, it is a misdemeanor.

Ê 255.17 Adultery.
A person is guilty of adultery when he engages in sexual intercourse
with another person at a time when he has a living spouse, or the other
person has a living spouse.
Adultery is a class B misdemeanor.


I'm sure a little casual research on your part will show that adultery is, indeed, a criminal act - not merely morally bankrupt and thoroughly reprehensible.
And we all know that The US is the shining example for the world when it comes to law and order.... Come on, there are long lists of absurd things to be found on the net which are treated as criminal acts in the US - and I know of a lot of Europeans who decide to holiday anywhere but in the US for fear of getting into trouble there.

As for adultery: I think, too, that it's good if the state keeps out of its citizen's bedrooms.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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In point of fact, there are many states in the US in which adultery is a criminal act.

In New York, it is a misdemeanor.

Ê 255.17 Adultery.
A person is guilty of adultery when he engages in sexual intercourse
with another person at a time when he has a living spouse, or the other
person has a living spouse.
Adultery is a class B misdemeanor.


I'm sure a little casual research on your part will show that adultery is, indeed, a criminal act - not merely morally bankrupt and thoroughly reprehensible.
I'm sure there are many places around the world where adultery is a criminal act, especially for the woman. However, for the sake of the discussion about Charles, Diana, and Camilla, British law is applicable, and adultery isn't a crime in Britain.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:53 PM
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I suppose the discussion about adultery and James Hewitt is to try to justify the assistance of Camila the memorial service for Princess Diana.

However, Camila must not attend ceremony.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:07 PM
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It takes a strong person to let their spouse have their own affairs and not have one of their own.
No it doesn't. If the person is a serial adulterer, divorce or separation is the answer.

Marriage does not come with a 'belongs to' sign, when you marry, you don't own your spouse and he/she doesn't own you. It is impossible to steal someone elses husband/wife, because they like you are not owned.
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so, she tried to play the same game (i.e. Hewitt, rest is history) but that didn't make her happy. She wanted her husband
The majority of men that Diana became involved with were already married or had partners, it always struck me that Diana always wanted what someone else had.

Many of the people invited to the memorial service did not 'love' Diana, they knew her or worked with her.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:15 PM
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And if we're talking vows, didn't someone promise to love, honour and obey?
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:17 PM
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I suppose the discussion about adultery and James Hewitt is to try to justify the assistance of Camila the memorial service for Princess Diana.

However, Camila must not attend ceremony.
There is no need to talk about James Hewitt or Diana´s other lovers to justify that Camilla will attend the service! Only one simple fact repeated again and again in this thread: Diana´s sons invited her for the service!

And to all who can´t stop talking about sin and evil adultary and being criminal of doing that...please start to read some chapters of the New Testament, you will find there the words love, forgiveness, new beginning...
And if you like to talk about Diana as an icon, maybe you should remember these words sometimes...
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:24 PM
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Only one simple fact repeated again and again in this thread: Diana´s sons invited her for the service!
Exactly. Instead of making this all the Duchess of Cornwall's problem, perhaps the real question underlying this thread is "Should the Princes have invited their step-mother to the service?".
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:30 PM
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And to all who can´t stop talking about sin and evil adultary and being criminal of doing that...please start to read some chapters of the New Testament, you will find there the words love, forgiveness, new beginning...
And if you like to talk about Diana as an icon, maybe you should remember these words sometimes...
How right you are.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:19 PM
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There is no need to talk about James Hewitt or Diana´s other lovers to justify that Camilla will attend the service! Only one simple fact repeated again and again in this thread: Diana´s sons invited her for the service!

And to all who can´t stop talking about sin and evil adultary and being criminal of doing that...please start to read some chapters of the New Testament, you will find there the words love, forgiveness, new beginning...
And if you like to talk about Diana as an icon, maybe you should remember these words sometimes...

One of the best postings here...
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:44 PM
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Exactly. Instead of making this all the Duchess of Cornwall's problem, perhaps the real question underlying this thread is "Should the Princes have invited their step-mother to the service?".
We might have received some interesting responses along the lines of why they really didn't want to but were pressured to do it (actually, haven't we already had something like that in this thread?).
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:37 PM
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I do not believe Camilla wants to attend the service at all and it certainly is questionable whether she should. The fact that she was the long-time mistress of Prince Charles while married to Diana is inescapable, although it certainly is true The Princess herself indulged in affairs. It's a very uncomfortable position to be placed in, even though she is now HRH The Duchess of Cornwall.

Given the goal of Clarence House is to ensure public support for Camilla as Queen, it certainly brings up unpleasant scrutiny by the press and media if she does attend. William and Harry may feel obliged to invite her, but we don't know how they really feel about it, especially since The Queen is not particularly enamoured of her.

It's a tough call for everyone involved.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:52 PM
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Given the goal of Clarence House is to ensure public support for Camilla as Queen
Possible, but still second-hand speculation.


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since The Queen is not particularly enamoured of her.
Possible, but still second-hand speculation.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:59 PM
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If one is going to view adultery as wrong, which I don't disagree with, then adultery has to be wrong no matter who does it. Wrong for Andrew Parker-Bowles, wrong for Camilla, wrong for Charles, wrong for Diana, wrong for Oliver Hoare, wrong for the rugby player William Carling.

And people are not (as many of you have said) pointing out Diana's affairs just so that Camilla's affair seems harmless in comparison. If adultery is wrong, neither affair is OK whether its Diana's affair or Camilla's affair.

In fact if the nation is so affronted by the sin of adultery as a shameful and hurtful act to all involved, then one may well ask why is the nation setting aside a special day to commemorate and honor a princess that was stained with the sin of adultery. If there was no memorial because the person to be memorialized was thought unworthy by their adultery, there would be no need to invite the other adulteress in the quadrangle.

But I don't think people are that much against adultery to say that Diana doesn't deserve a memorial.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:14 PM
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Camilla crashes Di party

Camilla crashes Di party - Carole Malone - Columnists - News - Sunday Mirror
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If one is going to view adultery as wrong, which I don't disagree with, then adultery has to be wrong no matter who does it. Wrong for Andrew Parker-Bowles, wrong for Camilla, wrong for Charles, wrong for Diana, wrong for Oliver Hoare, wrong for the rugby player William Carling.
Exactly, right!
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:50 AM
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Camilla crashes Di party
Oh dear, the Memorial Service has been reduced to a "Di party"? The trivialisation of Diana continues, and not always by her detractors. With friends like these...
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:19 AM
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William and Harry should turn down the invitation to Camila for the memorial service for their mother Princess Diana.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:52 AM
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Why don't you write to Clarence House and tell them so? I'm sure we'd all be really interested in the response when you receive it.
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How can they turn down an invitation they sent themselves. They can not retract an invitation to the wife of their father either. 17 more days to go.......
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How can they turn down an invitation they sent themselves. They can not retract an invitation to the wife of their father either. 17 more days to go.......
It's going to be a very loooooong 17 days or 408 hours or 24,480 minutes.
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