Prince Charles's support of alternative medicine

[sthreats]

I am glad your doctor is familar with natural agents. Many are not..
People really do need to consult a medical professional when using these products especially if they have any medical problems.

Just a short and personal example. My sister had systemic lupus. She was very health conscious, atheletic, and always reading on how to boost her immunity. At a naturopath suggested she try echinchea (sp) to boost her immunity/resistance. She had a severe lupus flare-brain, heart, etc and died 7months later.
Echinchea is actually advised against for lupus patients as it can trigger a flare.

And as I said people also need to use presciption medicines, over the counter drugs, etc. with caution. My granny used to tell me 'an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure'

Again I think P.Charles agents are a good idea for most and I hope (actually I'm sure) for medicolegal reasons they carry the aforementioned warning.

Originally Posted by Skydragon

Actually, it was my doctor who recommended the Dandelion Detox.

However, I would certainly not consult a GP when using such a natural product, nor for something such as Arnica. Not everyone sees or uses such products for weight loss, but for the boost they give them!

Many of these products were about long before we even thought we needed so many medicines.

[lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Incas

Prince Charles only hears science he wants to hear | Science | guardian.co.uk

The heir to the throne pays attention to scientists when their findings match his own prejudices, otherwise he ignores them

This is very prejudice in their own right. I am sure that Prince Charles listens to all sides of a story before making a decision and making the headlines.

[Skydragon]

Prince Charles' Duchy Originals brand has been ordered to remove claims about the effectiveness of its herbal remedies from its website, after regulators ruled they were "misleading"

Prince Charles' Duchy Originals ordered to remove 'misleading' herbal remedy claims - Telegraph

The remedies have been available in stores and through the company's website since the end of January and the MHRA made its ruling after a complaint from a member of the public

So the website altered the wording back in January! I wonder who the one member of the public was, because if plain old Mr Smith complained, it wouldn't have been considered actionable! IMO.

A spokesman for Duchy Originals said: “Duchy Herbals Detox Tincture is an excellent and safe product, traded as a food supplement and compliant with all of the relevant sections of both UK and European food laws. It is a natural aid to digestion and supports the body’s natural elimination processes. It is not – and has never been described as – a medicine, remedy or cure for any disease

At least they are speaking up!

[Al_bina]

I wonder why MHRA has not approved the products/claims in question prior allowing to distribute them. If checking claims is not a usual practice, why did MHRA decide to take action now?

[Skydragon]

I read it as the advertising on the web site was approved and only after one complaint was made, they then asked Duchy Originals to alter it, which they did back in January. Normally, I believe, more complaints are needed before any action is taken, ie, if one person complains that an advert for a particular health drink made promises it couldn't keep, (as in a recent case), it is not actioned until a significant number complain. If they normally listened to a single complaint they would be seriously overworked.

[Al_bina]

It is unfair indeed to take such drastic measure after the complaint of one individual, who has got obvious vested interests. As stated previously, it is deemed to expedient for an individual to consult a doctor before taking certain herbal medicine.

[Incas]

There are a lot of products advertised in the same manor as Duchy herbals had been before changes. While it's a good thing that MHRA is pursuing truth-in-advertising, it does leave one wonder if there is more scrutiny on the Duchy Original line than others.

[Russophile]

I'll take a homeopathic regime waaaay before I take anything via orally. You've all heard the "no-no" list: Do not take if you are under 18, do not take if you are over 18, some people have experienced weight loss, bleeding, migranes and ulcers. Do not take if you are breast feeding or are or are going to become pregnant. . . .

[Incas]

LOL! If I read all the fine prints the lawyers added on every prescription bottle, I might just crawled into a coffin and be done with it.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by Incas

LOL! If I read all the fine prints the lawyers added on every prescription bottle, I might just crawled into a coffin and be done with it.

Or how about when they advertise about Mesotheloma? Granted, it's a horrible thing my step-father died of it, but golly they are making some dough! As are the doctors perscribing medications that put (IMO) gigantic holes in ones liver and kidneys!

[Mermaid1962]

I do read all that, and it's amazing that I take any medication at all!

Originally Posted by Incas

LOL! If I read all the fine prints the lawyers added on every prescription bottle, I might just crawled into a coffin and be done with it.

[sthreats]

I went to the duchy originals website-www.duchyoriginals.com and looked up the herbal tinctures. They really do not make any outrageous claims. The hyper-lift is mainly St. John's Wort which has long been used as a mild mood elevator. The website says do not use if pregnant, nursing, or if you have been diagnosed with depression.
The detox- is mainly dandelion juice which my grandma used to take. (We also ate dandelion greens). Again the site says not to use if pregnant or nursing and says with all products to READ the label carefully.

I have seen much worse claims especially on 'natural' energy and diet supplements.

[COUNTESS]

Herbal supplements can be good and they can be bad. There is no regulation, so you take your chances. Mixed with some presciptions they are deadly. All "medicines" have pluses and drawbacks. Herbal medicines are just as dangerous and have far less oversight. Unfortunately, as doctors, keep studing things, they have found and allocated different ideas at different times. There is no hard or fast rule. Medicines change and minds change. When minds change you have "thinking", which is good. When minds are fixed you get no where. By the way, mesothelioma is not caused by medicine it is caused by inhaling irritants, such as asbestos.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

By the way, mesothelioma is not caused by medicine it is caused by inhaling irritants, such as asbestos.

Correct. My step-father died of emphasyma related to mesothelioma.

[Skydragon]

Poor Prince Charles. I adore his Duchy Originals food range - even if the pasties do contain more fat than a Big Mac.* So I was dismayed to read that a row has broken out over his health tinctures.

Dodgy Originals? This remedy from Prince Charles's company is more like liquid sunshine | Mail Online

[Skydragon]

The Prince of Wales's food firm has been criticised for "misleading" adverts for a range of herbal remedies claiming to offer relief from colds, low moods and digestive discomfort by an advertising watchdog.

Prince of Wales's Duchy Originals herbal remedy claims were 'misleading' - Telegraph

A spokesman for Duchy Originals said: "Duchy Originals accepts the Advertising Standards Authority's decision. The breach was completely unintentional and, as soon as we were alerted to it, we changed the wording and put in place checks to ensure that all future wording is fully compliant with the code

I wonder if any of them actually tried it, probably not as it is said to aid... digestive discomfort.

[scooter]

Recently here in the US, the show Charles: The Meddling Prince, regarding Charles inserting himself into this subject as well as others aired. You can view it at www.youtube.com

[Skydragon]

This programme first aired on Channel 4 in March of 2007, are the states that far behind? It was made by the Dispatches team, who are not renowned for 100% factual evidence.

[lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Skydragon

This programme first aired on Channel 4 in March of 2007, are the states that far behind? It was made by the Dispatches team, who are not renowned for 100% factual evidence.

I think they are that far behind to be honest. And you are quite right I remember watching the program and doubting much of what was being said.

[MARG]

Having watched the YouTube Charles the Meddling Prince, all I can say is . . . is there not one single honest "academic", "lawyer" or even a just plain journalist who has the guts to say "I/We loathe the BRF and Charles in particular, and will produce unashamedly biased bafflegab "Documentaries" to try and sway the poor uneducated sods less enlightened than me/us?

For all their self-righteous pontificating they still managed to sell goods way past their use-by date to the USA!

Rolling, rolling, rolling,
keep that cash a'rowling,
to the bank a'rolling $$$$$,
The're stupid enough to screen it,
nuttly enough to believe,
dumb enough to pay for it yah hoo!
(With apologies to the writers of the theme tune to "Rawhide")