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Old 11-28-2005, 06:05 AM
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hewitt said than he was Harry's father! and harry ever look so much like charles, hewitt said many (not all) lies, and i said charles with camilla in 1984 y diana star with hewitt in 1986.
and I not said willis is like he is for diana, he is like he is for himself, not for diana, not for charles, not for camiila or for the queen.
he is like he is.
Hewitt has never claimed to be Harry's father, where did you get that from?
Diana and Hewitt admitted to 1986, Charles admitted he started seeing Camilla in 1986.
You inferred that William was educated solely by Diana, when as everyone knows he was at school and with nannies most of his young life. His formative years were spent also at school and with Charles and Camilla!
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:07 AM
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hewitt still live with the money he did with diana's books. I have to never work to after leave the army.
He has a rather substantial Army Officer pension!
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:30 AM
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Hewitt has never claimed to be Harry's father, where did you get that from?
I remember years ago that during an interview with a British rag, Hewitt did that claim. Not saying that 'I am Harry's dad' but suggesting that not very subtly. I do not recall his exact words, but he did produce some Diana's letters out of his hat where she wrote something like 'deep in my heart I always knew Harry was yours' or something like that (??). I clearly remember the coverage it was given in France and seeing a shot of the letter. Sorry I can't be more precise, I don't keep that kind of archives.
And his army pension certainly not cover his jet-set/play-boy wannabe lifestyle. He has been bankrupted few times it seems (??).
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:22 AM
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I remember years ago that during an interview with a British rag, Hewitt did that claim. Not saying that 'I am Harry's dad' but suggesting that not very subtly. I do not recall his exact words, but he did produce some Diana's letters out of his hat where she wrote something like 'deep in my heart I always knew Harry was yours' or something like that (??). I clearly remember the coverage it was given in France and seeing a shot of the letter. Sorry I can't be more precise, I don't keep that kind of archives.
And his army pension certainly not cover his jet-set/play-boy wannabe lifestyle. He has been bankrupted few times it seems (??).
I can't find anything in the various search engines where Hewitt does anything but deny the rumours, inc

http://theinternetforum.co.uk/rf/harry5.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2273498.stm

Although we are now led to believe that Hewitt did meet Diana in 1981/82 and that some sources, inc Clifford say that their affair started around 81/82, I can't find anything where he says or infers that he is Harry's father, apart from this.
http://www.royalarchive.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1256&Itemid=2
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:James_Hewitt"

Army pensions can be quite substantial and afford a luxurious lifestyle. I don't think being declared bankrupt can affect your pension but, I have to admit, I don't know.:)
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:28 AM
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I think Hewitt played both sides of the fence regarding Harry's paternity. Its obvious he was milking his association for all its worth so a lot of what he says is not trustworthy.

However, some things like the fact that the Queen sympathized with Diana but refused to step in do seem true. I think some of his less scandalous statements that have been reinforced by other sources can be reliably believed.

It's not so easy as saying he is a total liar or everything he says is the truth.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:32 AM
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And his army pension certainly not cover his jet-set/play-boy wannabe lifestyle. He has been bankrupted few times it seems (??).

Small pension indeed but with this sort of tax liability, he must have money coming in from somewhere else.:)

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Old 11-28-2005, 08:09 AM
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Small pension indeed but with this sort of tax liability, he must have money coming in from somewhere else.:)

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The money he has coming in is through selling his notoriety. In the claims he makes and sells. He also was offering his services as an escort, last year I remember reading in a British newspaper. A woman journalist paid for his services and wrote an article. Didn't he do a reality TV program as well? For while too, he was supported by an older and wealthy woman he had a relationship with, she eventually broke it off. I just think he's a sad case.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:51 AM
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Also read Stephen Barry's book "Royal Service"
.....Also Stephen woke Charles the day of his wedding, no Camilla anywhere near him so that's a false story too.
.... The cuflink story also has no credibilty as Charles' staff would have been the ones to order them and buy them, it didn't happen.
I'd like to read this too if I could get hold of it. Do you know why Barry stopped working for Charles--did Diana have anything to do with it?
Charles denies sleeping with Camilla before the eve of the wedding, but not having a body in the bed in the morning is not proof of it.
The cufflinks were thought to be a present from Camilla, not bought by Charles' staff. If you mean the bracelet bought for Camilla, that is in Dimbleby's book.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:59 AM
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I found a website that brokers sales for used and out of print books. It has some copies of Stephen Barry's book available.

http://www.biblio.com/isbn/0025074903.html

I just read it in the bookshop when it first came out and would like to re-read it.

Charlotte1 its very interesting you say that he quit of his own accord. You may be right but I distinctly remember him being muscled out of the valet position. I'd have to re-read the book though to be sure.
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:02 AM
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The money he has coming in is through selling his notoriety. In the claims he makes and sells. He also was offering his services as an escort, last year I remember reading in a British newspaper. A woman journalist paid for his services and wrote an article. Didn't he do a reality TV program as well? For while too, he was supported by an older and wealthy woman he had a relationship with, she eventually broke it off. I just think he's a sad case.
Even the papers can't say for certain where he gets his money, it is believed to be from investments. I would hardly think he earns enough for his appearances to warrant a 250,000 tax bill.
Which newspaper or reporter would that be?
I can't find anything on him being supported by an older woman, what was her name and where did you get that from?
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:17 AM
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I can't find anything on him being supported by an older woman, what was her name and where did you get that from?
I read that here too in the Australian papers. Unless the lady herself makes a statement we have no idea of the truth. And I believe he was in, or was due to appear in, the Brit show "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" which incidentally is filmed in Australia. Hewitt also does TV appearances on chat and current affairs shows, for which he is paid, Again, he has appeared on Australian TV.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:27 AM
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I found a website that brokers sales for used and out of print books. It has some copies of Stephen Barry's book available.

Charlotte1 its very interesting you say that he quit of his own accord. You may be right but I distinctly remember him being muscled out of the valet position. I'd have to re-read the book though to be sure.
Thanks for that Ysbel, it's not available through the library system, nor is Little Girl Lost by Mary Clarke, Di's nanny.
How Barry left is important if there was some resentment against Ch or Di because of it.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:57 AM
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There are other sites with the book una. A lot of these books have short lives so one has to be enterprising to find them.

I just found this article on NPR (National Public Radio) about Charles, Diana, and Camilla. It's interesting that it said that while Diana was into self-help and affirmation, it was Charles who finally straightened out his life.

Pity the Poor Prince
Charles is atoning for the sins of rich, middle-aged men everywhere.


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Camilla is the anti-Di. Whereas Diana was forever getting her chakras balanced and her colon irrigated, Camilla is self-confident and well-adjusted. Diana was obsessed with the trappings of celebrity, while Camilla, like the royals, prefers to hide her wealth behind a thick veneer of ordinariness. Her main interests are said to be horses, dogs, and farm prices—standard Buckingham Palace talking points, in other words.

Diana was the family student of self-help literature, but it's Charles who has jettisoned his self-defeating behaviors. In his 20s, when he set out on the long road to the royal rose ceremony, he foolishly listened to the advice of his great-uncle and mentor Lord Mountbatten, who judged Camilla an unsuitable princess because she was older than Charles—by 16 months—and because she was "experienced." Diana may have been a godsend for the House of Windsor's gene pool and for the tabloid press, but she was a terrible match for Charles. Pledging his troth to a Sloane Ranger 12 years his junior with experience of absolutely nothing beyond a little light child-minding worked out annus-horribilisly for the prince of Wales.
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:12 AM
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I think Hewitt played both sides of the fence regarding Harry's paternity. Its obvious he was milking his association for all its worth so a lot of what he says is not trustworthy.

However, some things like the fact that the Queen sympathized with Diana but refused to step in do seem true. I think some of his less scandalous statements that have been reinforced by other sources can be reliably believed.

It's not so easy as saying he is a total liar or everything he says is the truth.
I think you have to separate Hewitt's book Love and War from all the tabloid muck. Hewitt blames the tabloids for ending his affair with Diana, and has been stitched up by them over and over, often involving female reporters. His account of how they aided and abetted the theft of Diana's letters from his safe by trapping him in an elaborate sting is enough to put you off tabloids for life! . He seems to have given up trying to save his reputation, and joined the fray, playing up to the love rat caricature and using the papers as they use him.

The book shows a very different person, and seems quite believable to me.
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:26 AM
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I read that here too in the Australian papers. Unless the lady herself makes a statement we have no idea of the truth. And I believe he was in, or was due to appear in, the Brit show "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" which incidentally is filmed in Australia. Hewitt also does TV appearances on chat and current affairs shows, for which he is paid, Again, he has appeared on Australian TV.
I don't think he is in I'm a celebrity, as the accountants say, his appearances in anything have really tailed off.
I've been through some of the UK papers archives but can't even find an allegation of an older woman. Perhaps Australia's libel laws are different and they are more able to get away with printing these things.
The point is that just because he had an affair with Diana and wrote about it, does not make him public enemy No.1.
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The point is that just because he had an affair with Diana and wrote about it, does not make him public enemy No.1.
Agreed. But the fact that he published an account of his affair without telling Diana and his regular appearances on the celebrity circuit practically advertise his willingness to use his association with her to fit his own purposes. That's not a friend I would want.

That having been said, I think some of the things he wrote can be trusted to be true, but you have to sort through the rest of the trash.
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They dropped Hewitt from "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" and replaced him with Carol Thatcher.
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What's interesting is that while a lot of people like to trash Hewitt and Burrell (and for good reason) for betraying Diana, they refuse to place any blame on Diana herself for the lack of judgment she showed in the people she trusted and hung around. Diana is always portrayed as the poor innocent victim - if she wasn't cheated on by Charles, she was being betrayed by Hewitt or Burrell.

Anyone else who had been the victim of all these betrayals and double-dealings by different people would not have gotten the public sympathy that Diana did after the first one or two times. After awhile, people would been annoyed with a person that they was so gullible and didn't come to their senses. People certainly wouldn't feel outraged after the first couple of times. There's an old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." From the looks of things, Diana got fooled a lot of times but for the most part people didn't seem to think her own lack of judgment played any part in what happened. It was all the fault of the heartless Charles, the dirty rat Hewitt, and the sleazy Burrell. Never Diana.
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What's interesting is that while a lot of people like to trash Hewitt and Burrell (and for good reason) for betraying Diana
Whats interesting is that Hewitt and Burrell's accounts are totally trustworthy and should be in the public domain when they say what a wonderful person Diana was. But when they say something that Diana fans see as detrimental, Hewitt and Burrell have betrayed her. How many Diana fans bought Burrell's book to find out what she used to eat for breakfast etc without realising that they are in fact lining Burrell's pockets and giving him an excuse to publish more which is what'll keep happening until the RF come down hard on him in court.
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I don't have any problem with trusting Hewitt on telling the truth on some things but not on others.
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