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Old 05-04-2005, 04:55 AM
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Mr AlFayed is patetic. Who is he to be the spokesperson for Diana or anybody else?!
No his 15 minute of fame is over (yes I know he is a well known buissnessman and owner of Harrods) But what has that to do with Diana?
She spend a couple of months with his son... thats it...

and is he a racist to?! this line is just so
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Her husband, the German/Greek/Russian Duke of Edinburgh (what did the Scots do to deserve that
and last: Charles is after all just human. And we all deserves to be happy. He must really care for Camilla, they have been in love, for what, 35 years?
Yes he made a terrible misstake by cheating and there is no excuse for what he put Diana through, but I think we must all let go and realise that Charles and Camilla are happy together.
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Old 05-04-2005, 09:41 AM
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about the car and the employee, diana was too unprotected, she might have received some more protection from the royals/english government, one of the reasons she was being harrassed was partly because she was the ex wife of.
I very much agree! I always thought that the RF was wrong to withdraw their protective services from Diana. After all, she was still the mother of the future heir, the most photographed woman in the world and very much in need of protection. She was all of these things because she married into the RF. I think that whoever made the decision to pull security from her assumed that she could hire other protection services but I'm sure there was no one she could trust. What utter fools!
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:24 AM
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I very much agree! I always thought that the RF was wrong to withdraw their protective services from Diana. After all, she was still the mother of the future heir, the most photographed woman in the world and very much in need of protection. She was all of these things because she married into the RF. I think that whoever made the decision to pull security from her assumed that she could hire other protection services but I'm sure there was no one she could trust. What utter fools!
yeah i would agree with you!

because Princess Diana needs more protection for what she BIG NEEDS! she is ex-wife of Prince Charles many people knew of her very much and she still future heir and many photographer getting pictures of her all the times in her life and no harassment for 15 years since 1981-1997 if Diana been gone somewhere and photographer will found the Princess Diana they published by magazines and newspaper and Diana would makes her more pissed off!

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about the car and the employee, diana was too unprotected, she might have received some more protection from the royals/english government, one of the reasons she was being harrassed was partly because she was the ex wife of.


yeah i would agree with you!

but Diana need more protect for what she needs! and include drivers and lots of more and she got rid include nanny,butler,chef and lots of more! but i cant believe she did that! and Diana making more harassment from photographer also! but she wont hurt from photographer heck no!

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Old 05-04-2005, 12:13 PM
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I very much agree! I always thought that the RF was wrong to withdraw their protective services from Diana. After all, she was still the mother of the future heir, the most photographed woman in the world and very much in need of protection. She was all of these things because she married into the RF. I think that whoever made the decision to pull security from her assumed that she could hire other protection services but I'm sure there was no one she could trust. What utter fools!
It was Diana herself who chose not to have official protection after her divorce. It was offered and she was encouraged to have it, but she refused.
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:34 PM
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I very much agree! I always thought that the RF was wrong to withdraw their protective services from Diana. After all, she was still the mother of the future heir, the most photographed woman in the world and very much in need of protection. She was all of these things because she married into the RF.
It seems to be pretty well established that the royal protection services were withdrawn from Diana at her request because she wanted her freedom and she thought the police bodyguards, being paid for by the royal family, were in the enemy camp. It seems that the Queen insisted that royal protection officers be assigned to the two princes, so they were there during the earlier criuse on Al Fayed's yacht when the two princes were there, but when Diana went back to have her cruise alone with Dodi, she didn't have any royal protection officers. It seems to have been her choice, not the choice of the royal family.

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I think that whoever made the decision to pull security from her assumed that she could hire other protection services but I'm sure there was no one she could trust. What utter fools!
The decision was apparently hers.
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:07 PM
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did not know that she refused protection, can imagine security guards can make you feel less free.

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It seems to be pretty well established that the royal protection services were withdrawn from Diana at her request because she wanted her freedom and she thought the police bodyguards, being paid for by the royal family, were in the enemy camp. It seems that the Queen insisted that royal protection officers be assigned to the two princes, so they were there during the earlier criuse on Al Fayed's yacht when the two princes were there, but when Diana went back to have her cruise alone with Dodi, she didn't have any royal protection officers. It seems to have been her choice, not the choice of the royal family.



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Old 05-05-2005, 08:02 AM
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I agree with a lot of what Mr. Al-fyed's statements. Why didn't Charles marry Camilla? maybe the Queen didn't approve? Why carry on an affair?

Diana was a naive and pure-hearted 20 year old(believe me I am 22 and I am still naive) woman when she entered that marriage. Charles just wanted heirs. Camilla knowingly had an affair with a married man. Obviously by the time Charles and Diana divorced no one out of the three were completely innocent.

Diana was already suffering emotional damage because of abandonement from her mother but to have someone like your husband betray you like that. I am not saying Diana is perfect or deserves sainthood.
I do think that now Charles and Camilla belong together, they deserve each other. I don't consider the Charles and Camilla saga a love story, far from it. Although they do love eachother, they had plenty of chances to be together before Charles even met Diana. They have a lot of work ahead of them before they get my vote of confidence.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:35 AM
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I agree with a lot of what Mr. Al-fyed's statements. Why didn't Charles marry Camilla? maybe the Queen didn't approve? Why carry on an affair?

Diana was a naive and pure-hearted 20 year old(believe me I am 22 and I am still naive) woman when she entered that marriage. Charles just wanted heirs. Camilla knowingly had an affair with a married man. Obviously by the time Charles and Diana divorced no one out of the three were completely innocent.

Diana was already suffering emotional damage because of abandonement from her mother but to have someone like your husband betray you like that. I am not saying Diana is perfect or deserves sainthood.
I do think that now Charles and Camilla belong together, they deserve each other. I don't consider the Charles and Camilla saga a love story, far from it. Although they do love eachother, they had plenty of chances to be together before Charles even met Diana. They have a lot of work ahead of them before they get my vote of confidence.
when Prince Charles and Camilla in 1970's both would plans getting married in late 1970's but Prince Charles away for navy and Camilla got married to Andrew-Parker Bowlers they after Prince Charles got home from Navy but Charles really disappointment about Camilla got married that man! but i would knew that his grandmother the HM Queen Mother wont let Prince Charles get married to Camilla for BIG MORE REASONS! because of Prince Charles had affairs with Camilla before Diana if im correct or im wrong!

and he got married to late Diana,Princess of Wales and Prince Charles had pictures of Camilla when both in honeymoon and Diana told him dont bring pictures of her and Diana got upset! before Diana got married to Prince of Wales she wanted to wedding off! she told her sister about that im sure they later Prince Charles went seem Camilla after Prince Harry's birth when Diana carry Harry from Hospital but Diana really happy about birth.

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Old 05-05-2005, 02:37 PM
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I competely agree. C&C belong together. Yet, I wouldn't trust either one of them. I don't believe Charles has what it takes to be a good monarch. For example King Bhumibol of Thailand is not an absolute monarch yet his people love and respect him in a semi-god way because he has championed the poor and democracy in his country. He has played a pivotal role in relations btw the military and the students. Charles to me is weak, i feel sorry for him because of his upbringing and lack of parental love. The most tragic thing is that Diana did not get the happy ending that she did deserve, instead C&C gets the happy ending. They both plotted a marriage and choose Diana to be their sacrifice. Honestly, if he wanted his marriage to succeed he should have either stood up to his parents to say this is the person I love and I will marry her or given her up. I am glad that they are happy, no one deserves misey yet it just doesn't seem fair.
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I read the book called Diana's Boys and The Mother They Loved. In that book it is about the tell all relashionship of diana and Charles marriage.
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Honestly, if he wanted his marriage to succeed he should have either stood up to his parents to say this is the person I love and I will marry her or given her up. I am glad that they are happy, no one deserves misey yet it just doesn't seem fair.
But how do you stand up to Queen Elizabeth? She is a force not to be reconed with.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:58 PM
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Well King Edward stood up to his family and his country so why not charles?


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But how do you stand up to Queen Elizabeth? She is a force not to be reconed with.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:08 PM
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Possibly because of what happened to King Edward.
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Old 05-06-2005, 01:19 AM
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Possibly because of what happened to King Edward.
If he is affraid because of what happen to Edward, than he put his fear above his love for Camilia. That's human but in the end no matter the reason why Charles did not stand up to his parents, the person that paid for his decision was not him but Diana. Diana, unlike Charles, never got the happy ending. And that makes have negative feelings towards Charles & Camilia.
Also King Bhumibol of Thailand stood up to the military that could have easily killed him when necessary and for that he was able to bring about stability to Thailand. So, what I am trying to say is that yes it is hard to defy those we love, especially our parents whose approval means the world to some of us, yet people, not just kings or princes, make these decisions every single day.
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:29 AM
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It seems to be pretty well established that the royal protection services were withdrawn from Diana at her request because she wanted her freedom and she thought the police bodyguards, being paid for by the royal family, were in the enemy camp. It seems that the Queen insisted that royal protection officers be assigned to the two princes, so they were there during the earlier criuse on Al Fayed's yacht when the two princes were there, but when Diana went back to have her cruise alone with Dodi, she didn't have any royal protection officers. It seems to have been her choice, not the choice of the royal family.



The decision was apparently hers.
Hmmm...Looks like I've been proven wrong.
I would have to wonder why she would refuse royal protection officers?
Maybe because they could report on her every move to top officials?
The last thing you would want as a divorcee is to have your every move reported on to your ex husbands family. Had she refused them in other situations? Did Al Fayed have protection guards? maybe she thought that was enough...
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:31 AM
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So, what I am trying to say is that yes it is hard to defy those we love, especially our parents whose approval means the world to some of us, yet people, not just kings or princes, make these decisions every single day.
Very good statement! You also earn respect when you stand up for what you believe in. Charles doesn't seem to have any respect.
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:38 AM
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Yeah Diana refused them before. I guess that was a step in her gaining her independence. Can't blame someone for trying to do that.
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Very good statement! You also earn respect when you stand up for what you believe in. Charles doesn't seem to have any respect.
For Diana?
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For Diana?
yeah i think so! but Diana needs big needs! than Camilla and Sophie because Diana is popular Princess! that unfair for Camilla and Sophie!

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Old 05-06-2005, 07:10 PM
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I think that a lot of damage has come from this "marraige" because Charles has underestimated or rather, ignored, the country's feelings on the matter and the long term casualty will be the institution of Monarchy itself because it has undeniably lost a great deal of respect because of it.
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